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    (Original post by Jim-Jam)
    Isn't that what you've been doing for years anyway? The Alex Ferguson method - **** the defence and CM, just make sure you pack the wings and striking options!
    No. We've always had a decent balance to the team. Attacking football is played in the majority of games, but the defence has always been solid and the midfield has been okay (less so over the last few years).

    That team would get stomped by any decent opposition. It would probably be good against the weaker teams in the league, though.

    The summer has only just gotten started, but it's worrying to see the other top clubs in Europe already making signings. If we're looking to become more of a threat in the CL, we need to sign elite talent.
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    (Original post by rohitbd)
    Thiago is not yet a Bayern player, I'd say its a transfer triangle, if Thiago was going to sign for Bayern today then why did Pep come out and show his admiration for him and try and sweet talk Thiago to Bayern,

    Thiago can either stay at Barca, the club that made him and the club that will give him best opportunities for future spain caps, plus he will play with players he knows and with a style that suits him, however he will have to be patient until Xavi declines before he can make a major impact there.

    He can go Bayern, to his former coach Pep, who trusted him and admires him very much, also the best club in the world at the minute and pretty much will win a lot of trophies and deliver much success, however the competition at Bayern is huge and he maybe pushed out to play in positions not optimal for his progress, with lots of pressure to perform.

    He can come to us, a team that is dying for a player like him and as long as he plays to a certain standard will be guaranteed starts and playing time due to lack of competition, he would play in his optimal position and not have to be patient, however Man Utd do not play tika tika and he may find it difficult to adapt to the PL.

    Lets just wait and see, my bets on Barca convincing him to stay.
    Pressure from Both Bayern and Man utd can actually make him retreat and stay at Barca-safer option.
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    Pressure from Both Bayern and Man utd can actually make him retreat and stay at Barca-safer option.
    Exactly, plus Barca will not want to lose him to Bayern even more than us.
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    As soon as I read Pep publicly confirming he wants Thiago - I was like - Game over, we're not going to get him now.

    The only good thing to come out of it is that we haven't publicly come out or said we are even in for Thiago, even though reports suggest we've done alot of behind the scenes work to get Thiago. So at least, unlike Hazard, Moura, we survive the egg on face situation.

    I'd hope Thiago sits down, looks at the situation pragmatically and rationally and sees that the vacancy is with us, not Bayern if this is all about game time. But on the other hand, I can't blame him for wanting to re-unite with Pep (who obviously knows him very well) and them being champions of Europe and really taking the European stage domestically and in the CL by storm.

    I'll wait until its official but I would be stunned if we got him.

    I don't think we moved quickly to get his signature (maybe due to the transition from SAF to Moyes) like we should have done and possibly all the small print of the buyout clause delayed things etc.

    It's not an ideal start for Moyes but I can honestly see Baines being the only player joining us.

    Rooney's hamstring going, with all the reports of how fit he was, not ideal but a hammie can pull up if you're unfit or fit. By the time he comes back, he may find it difficult to get back in the side if the other players like Kagawa perform.
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    Hopefully Ancelotti's plans at Real Madrid involve one of Modric/Khedira/Alonso leaving
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    People on here seem to think that United haven't tried hard enough to close the deal but they can only do so much after that its up to the player whether he wants to join the club. If reports from Cadena COPE (Spanish radio station who broke the story yesterday) are to be believed then there were offers on the table from Real Madrid, Manchester United and Bayern Munich. And if Thiago goes to Bayern its not because United didn't try hard enough but because the player wants to go to Bayern so theres little United can do in this situation.
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    It's called the silly season for a reason...
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    (Original post by Aky786UK)
    As soon as I read Pep publicly confirming he wants Thiago - I was like - Game over, we're not going to get him now.

    The only good thing to come out of it is that we haven't publicly come out or said we are even in for Thiago, even though reports suggest we've done alot of behind the scenes work to get Thiago. So at least, unlike Hazard, Moura, we survive the egg on face situation.

    I'd hope Thiago sits down, looks at the situation pragmatically and rationally and sees that the vacancy is with us, not Bayern if this is all about game time. But on the other hand, I can't blame him for wanting to re-unite with Pep (who obviously knows him very well) and them being champions of Europe and really taking the European stage domestically and in the CL by storm.

    I'll wait until its official but I would be stunned if we got him.

    I don't think we moved quickly to get his signature (maybe due to the transition from SAF to Moyes) like we should have done and possibly all the small print of the buyout clause delayed things etc.

    It's not an ideal start for Moyes but I can honestly see Baines being the only player joining us.

    Rooney's hamstring going, with all the reports of how fit he was, not ideal but a hammie can pull up if you're unfit or fit. By the time he comes back, he may find it difficult to get back in the side if the other players like Kagawa perform.
    Another thing that is in our side is that Pep in the same press conference said some nasty things a bouT Roswell. Now Roswell would rather sell Thiago to Man utd than Bayern (finally Man utd acting professionally coming to use) and I think he would pull out all the stops and make Bayer pay £40 million or something including VAT.
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    Doesn't Thiago have a release clause, making a transfer fee irrelevant?
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    (Original post by NathanW18)
    Doesn't Thiago have a release clause, making a transfer fee irrelevant?
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    (Original post by doggyfizzel)
    Probably be an interesting thread, if you could select a player from the past to play in your team today who would it be? I think Keane would probably be a good choice for us regardless of our current issues, but with them he's probably be above anyone else. Our team does lack the fear factor Keane provided on the pitch, and without SAF a ruthless winner would probably do us good in the dressing room.
    100/100 Keane. Watching him in person was a whole other experience, he was so so committed and didnt give 2 ****s if it was Arsenal or West Ham. He scared me and Vieira/Parlour knew he would make mince meat if he fancied. Just fear the tunnel, I can only imagine, Complete dominance or ''see you out there next time''

    What a player. Man Utd havnet had that fear factor since. Nobody has...


    Just a boss

    What an amazing player Keane was. What woukd he be worth now? 70m?
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    I thought it was obvious after the 5th July that we weren't signing him. If Thiago really wanted to join us, we could've got him signed within the first few days of July. What I don't understand is why he wouldn't want to join us though. All we have is Carrick in the CM at the moment. Whereas Bayern have Gustavo/Martinez/Schweinsteiger and if Thiago wants a more attacking role, Bayern have Gotze/Kroos/Muller.

    As for other signings, all I can realistically see is Baines.

    I guess we're having another season with all the pressure on Carrick.
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    (Original post by Manchester United)
    I thought it was obvious after the 5th July that we weren't signing him. If Thiago really wanted to join us, we could've got him signed within the first few days of July. What I don't understand is why he wouldn't want to join us though. All we have is Carrick in the CM at the moment. Whereas Bayern have Gustavo/Martinez/Schweinsteiger and if Thiago wants a more attacking role, Bayern have Gotze/Kroos/Muller.

    As for other signings, all I can realistically see is Baines.

    I guess we're having another season with all the pressure on Carrick.
    all those players above are screwed by thiago's arrival, am sure that Pep will give thiago the game time hes after too but that means martinez put at CB which would screw Boateng, Dante and Badstuber thats alot of people screwed for a player they don't even need...mabye the bayern board will consider this at the last minute and pull out
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    (Original post by Manchester United)
    I thought it was obvious after the 5th July that we weren't signing him. If Thiago really wanted to join us, we could've got him signed within the first few days of July. What I don't understand is why he wouldn't want to join us though. All we have is Carrick in the CM at the moment. Whereas Bayern have Gustavo/Martinez/Schweinsteiger and if Thiago wants a more attacking role, Bayern have Gotze/Kroos/Muller.

    As for other signings, all I can realistically see is Baines.

    I guess we're having another season with all the pressure on Carrick.
    If hes been promised game time then there is no reason why he'd join United over Bayern.

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    A few pages ago, I said if we didn't get Thiago/Strootman, the next best would be Illarramendi. Well, it's confirmed that Madrid have just bought him for 38m Euro's. To get the best talent, you need to act quick.

    So far, Madrid have made the two of the three best summer signings (Isco and Neymar being the other two).
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    Sky sports - Moyes on Rooney again:

    'Unless I was speaking double Dutch, I've said that Wayne Rooney is not for sale.
    I have answered lots of questions about Wayne and it’s getting repetitive. I don’t want to talk about it all day.'


    LOL its so true as well! I'm getting a little frustrated with the media for constantly asking about Rooney when they should be asking about whats happening in the transfer market and which area is he looking to improve in etc etc.
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    (Original post by Manchester United)
    A few pages ago, I said if we didn't get Thiago/Strootman, the next best would be Illarramendi. Well, it's confirmed that Madrid have just bought him for 38m Euro's. To get the best talent, you need to act quick.

    So far, Madrid have made the two best signings of the summer.
    That's true but the problem we have here is there is no top English talent, besides maybe Wilshere. Illarramendi and Isco are both Spanish which makes proceedings a whole lot easier for RM.

    We bought Phil Jones when we needed to. RE thiago, from what I gather we gave him an excellent offer but at the end of the day the choice rests with him.

    IMO we need two CM's, but there's nobody world class left in the market. Plausible targets which spring to mind are De Rossi but he would be expensive or Galatasaray have said they would sell Sneijder at the right price and he's had a good season tbh.

    I hope we won't buy Fellanini or something...
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    When Moyes was asked if Thiago was still a target:

    Moyes: "I never said he was."


    On transfer targets:

    Moyes: "There are targets we're chasing. At this moment in time, we're happy with how things are going."


    (seen it on Twitter)
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    If the media had asked him at his first press conference whether Thiago was a target or not then at least we would have had an idea that he wasn't interested in buying him instead the media were more interested in what was happening with Rooney.
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    (Original post by poiuytrewq54321)
    If the media had asked him at his first press conference whether Thiago was a target or not then at least we would have had an idea that he wasn't interested in buying him instead the media were more interested in what was happening with Rooney.
    The media could have asked him that and he would have said nothing. We tend to not discuss who we want in public. Hargreaves is the only guy that I can think of that was quite public.

    The Rooney stuff is annoying, though. There are plenty of other good questions they can ask and all they want to ask is questions about Rooney. He's not exactly going to say that Rooney is going to be leaving. I don't know what they expect him to say. Pisses me off.
 
 
 
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