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    (Original post by xDave-)
    Obviously we'll just have to buy Modric and Ronaldo then, sorted!
    Now this, this makes sense :excited:
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    Not being drawn into this mugs game, I've been muggy enough with Thiago. We won't get him. Barca won't sell + if they were Arsenal would get him, simple.
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    (Original post by cost)
    When we sent the bid for baines that was rejected in 30 minutes.. When arsenal sent the bid for Suarez that got reject in a hour..


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    And your source? Seems to me the time period in between you reading a bid has been submitted and then the bid being rejected rather than the time period it actually took for them to say no haha
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    SSN reporting 3 other clubs apart from us have now reported interest in Cesc, here we go again :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by rohitbd)
    SSN reporting 3 other clubs apart from us have now reported interest in Cesc, here we go again :rolleyes:
    Would not be surprised if they were Arsenal, City and Chelsea.
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    (Original post by Kenan and Kel)
    Would not be surprised if they were Arsenal, City and Chelsea.
    Exactly, but just imagine seeing RVP and Cesc back together in their primes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lioajpmNnLc
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    Right, I'm confused. Does Cesc have a 25m buyout clause with Arsenal? Because if they do and Arsenal reject it, then they would receive 50% of the transfer fee, am I right? Which means Barca would surely have increase Cesc's asking price in order to receive a justifiable amount for him....

    Don't really understand the logic behind this bid tbh.


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    (Original post by Stopmessing)
    Don't really understand the logic behind this bid tbh.
    That's because there is none.

    Man U's transfer policy seems very much like my efforts to pull women.

    Approach numerous top level individuals hoping they would accept the pitiful offer on the table.
    After multiple knock backs move onto the lower level individuals hoping to snag one before the club/transfer window shuts.
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    (Original post by Stopmessing)
    Right, I'm confused. Does Cesc have a 25m buyout clause with Arsenal? Because if they do and Arsenal reject it, then they would receive 50% of the transfer fee, am I right? Which means Barca would surely have increase Cesc's asking price in order to receive a justifiable amount for him....

    Don't really understand the logic behind this bid tbh.

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    A lot of different reports coming through. Some saying Arsenal only receive 50% of profits from the initial transfer fee (£25m). Hence why Moyes started the bidding at £25m to see if Arsenal are interested. If for example he went for £30m, Arsenal would receive £2.5m from Barcelona.
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      Ok, I'm taking the info from this twitter feed, which are many are linking to in order to explain the clauses. So, my interpretation is:

      • A club bids for Fabregas
        If Cesc has a desire to leave, he is asked if he wants to go back to Arsenal - this is a first refusal clause. Arsenal would have to pay £25m for him (the buy-back clause).
      • Cesc could say, I don't want to go to Arsenal.
        (Or Arsenal could even say, we don't want him/can't afford him).
      • In this case, other clubs are free to bid for Cesc but of course, Barcelona can demand any fee they like (likely £35m+).
      • It is also believed (but not known for certain) that there is a sell-on clause in his contract.
        This sell-on clause is believed to be around 50% of the profit made by Barcelona, some say this is 50% of the money above the Arsenal £25m buy-out clause. It is fairly certain it is not 50% of the transfer fee itself.



      That's my understanding at least. It's also worth noting that the offer is 'under consideration.' If accepted, or if Barca ask for more money, then that would indicate to Cesc that he's surplus to their requirements.

      Lots of ifs and buts in there - and while I'm not excited and am slightly pessimistic, I'm certainly not ruling it out.
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      It is rather odd that they didn't just flat out reject the offer..
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      (Original post by Wilfred Little)
      When was your season ticket renewal date cut off?
      2nd week of June ... around the 13/14th I think.


      (Original post by Kenan and Kel)
      Some saying that season ticket renewals aren't exactly happening as fast as they would like
      Season ticket sales have been down ever since the recession because there's no real reason to own one ... the automatic cup scheme, distribution of away tickets and low demand is putting people off. This will always be the case as long as the enjoyment level of home games is so grossly out of line with the price.

      Atrocious atmosphere + overpriced tickets + boring style of football = unsatisfied supporters.
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      Given that we have made a bid for a player that said this last month:

      "I've always said that I'm happy at Barca. Whoever says that I'm leaving doesn't know me and has never spoken with me," said the 26-year-old.

      "Nor with my agent, because he knows that I don't want him to talk with other people about me. I'm very private and I don't even talk about these things with my family.

      "If someone says anything that isn't that I want to play at Barca, it's completely absurd."

      It is either (a) some sort of strategic PR stunt or (b) the United board know something we don't..
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      (Original post by Wilfred Little)
      That's because there is none.

      Man U's transfer policy seems very much like my efforts to pull women.

      Approach numerous top level individuals hoping they would accept the pitiful offer on the table.
      After multiple knock backs move onto the lower level individuals hoping to snag one before the club/transfer window shuts.
      I like that little analogy, but even then it seems a strange place to start. If you were going to take random shots, wouldn't Dortmund or Madrid where you can see money talking or players leaving make more sense than Barcelona. If Moyes is going with the machine gun approach to transfers, I'd imagine he has a list of players who are less than £20m who he think could be great players, or some he'd been keeping an eye on but couldn't afford at Everton.
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      Phil Jones. He never stops giving :awesome:

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      (Original post by Akkuz)
      Given that we have made a bid for a player that said this last month:

      "I've always said that I'm happy at Barca. Whoever says that I'm leaving doesn't know me and has never spoken with me," said the 26-year-old.

      "Nor with my agent, because he knows that I don't want him to talk with other people about me. I'm very private and I don't even talk about these things with my family.

      "If someone says anything that isn't that I want to play at Barca, it's completely absurd."

      It is either (a) some sort of strategic PR stunt or (b) the United board know something we don't..
      At that point Fabregas didn't want to leave but now a bid a has come in that changes everything IF Barca accept.. Then I think he might leave because Barca want to sell


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      The only deals United really care about doing at the moment is signing new sponsors. That global profile building strategy of breaking down its partnership sales by region is only going to continue and keep expanding and they seem to be pumping all the effort into that as it brings in a lot of money. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be reinvested in the team very well.

      Maybe United need a director of football to oversee the transfers since the people who are supposed to be responsible for those dealings - the corporate side of the club - couldn't care less about the team on the field.
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      It's changed. SSN is now reporting that its a £35m bid.. http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...-Cesc-Fabregas

      That's about €40m.
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      Probably going to find out it never happened.


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      Look, Moyes is not stupid-we would never bid for someone without confirming that they would like to go. Think about it, would man utd bid for any player if they did not want to come? NO.

      I think RVP being brave and taking the risks to go to Arsenal's rivals and then wins BPL, makes Cesc think that he could do it too and he can also go through that barrier.

      RVP and Cesc both have same agent. Also Cesc is more well rounded CM and has PL experience which Thiago does not have, so that is why Man utd are less motivated and pushy to sign Thiago. Moyes needs instant success even if his contract say something else. We need a midfielder and taking the risk of Thiago can cost Moyes's job, simple as that.
     
     
     
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