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    (Original post by Zürich)
    Behave. Utd have absolutely no chance in the CL. Even if Fergie was still around,your squad is way off the best teams in Europe and Moyes has absolutely no Europea experience other than losing a qualifying game once.

    If you honestly have the mentality that you should be competing for the CL then Moyes has no hope. Going to be fun watching you lot though...
    Oh back to the 'Europea experience' is it? Okay so with Wengers experience I'm guessing his probably won at least one Champions League trophy? Or maybe not. The experience really speaks for itself, don't you think? Look at your own manager before judging another teams. Just go back to fighting for fourth place why don't you.

    Current Arsenal team VS current Manchester United team = Winner: Manchester United

    Improved Arsenal team (striker added) VS Improved Manchester United team (midfielder added) =
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    Of course United have a chance to win the league! However calling them Contenders for the Champions League might be a tiny bit of a stretch...
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    (Original post by TheLittlestElf)
    Of course United have a chance to win the league! However calling them Contenders for the Champions League might be a tiny bit of a stretch...
    I agree especially not with the current team but maybe with a few decent additions in midfield then you never know.
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    Utd definitely will be up there with Bayern/Barca for the CL as well and player for player Utd are every bit as good as Chelsea/City anyway. Fabregas would be mad not to sign up to play with Welbeck, Valencia and Evans every week. :rolleyes:
    Harsh on Evans. The guy has improved a lot over the last 2 seasons. He's been very good. I like Welbeck, but I understand why others don't. Seeing Valencia on the team sheet every week just pains me.

    United still have a chance at the league, but it's unlikely. Chelsea will probably win it. I don't know what to think about City. They've signed a few new players and it might take them a while to get up to speed. New manager as well. 2nd or 3rd is likely for us.

    No chance in the Champions League, though. People are being silly if they think we can win that.
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    Christ this thread is embarrassing, like one big **** waving competition. Might be worth waiting until the season starts before making any judgements on who is a title contender and who isn't.

    This thread:

    "United are ****"
    "8 Years"
    "Moyes is crap"
    "8 Years"
    "No Ferguson"
    "8 Years"

    And so on..
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    Speaking of CL contenders, isn't it quite remarkable that almost all of the big European teams have changed their manager this year? Even though Pep's Bayern are going to be routed as favourites, it does make the competition slightly less predictable.


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    (Original post by NathanW18)
    Harsh on Evans. The guy has improved a lot over the last 2 seasons. He's been very good. I like Welbeck, but I understand why others don't. Seeing Valencia on the team sheet every week just pains me.

    United still have a chance at the league, but it's unlikely. Chelsea will probably win it. I don't know what to think about City. They've signed a few new players and it might take them a while to get up to speed. New manager as well. 2nd or 3rd is likely for us.

    No chance in the Champions League, though. People are being silly if they think we can win that.
    Spot on mate. Not saying Utd have no chance at the league but there are 2 clubs with a better chance.
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    Spot on mate. Not saying Utd have no chance at the league but there are 2 clubs with a better chance.
    Where does Arsenal who have the same chance as United fit into these probabilities?
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    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    So according to your previous post.. Those two clubs are Arsenal and...?
    What're you on about now? CFC/MCFC are ahead of Utd and, going back to my original point, Fabregas is not going to be impressed by that or by Moyes(even ignoring the other half a dozen factors standing in the way of a move).

    But feel free to spend the next month discussing Fabregas moving to Utd...
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    What're you on about now? CFC/MCFC are ahead of Utd and, going back to my original point, Fabregas is not going to be impressed by that or by Moyes(even ignoring the other half a dozen factors standing in the way of a move).

    But feel free to spend the next month discussing Fabregas moving to Utd...
    You have posted more than most people on here about Fabregas tbh, go cry about it elsewhere.
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    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    You have posted more than most people on here about Fabregas tbh, go cry about it elsewhere.
    Havent been on here in weeks mate, and the vast majority of posts on here are delusional Fabregas related posts tbh. No idea what I'm supposed to be crying about. A transfer that will never happen? :confused:
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    Okay guys lets just stop arguing its getting silly now.
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    Havent been on here in weeks mate, and the vast majority of posts on here are delusional Fabregas related posts tbh. No idea what I'm supposed to be crying about. A transfer that will never happen? :confused:
    I think you'll find the vast majority of posts the past few weeks have been about Thiago, not fabregas.
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    (Original post by NathanW18)
    Hahaha that's epic! Nice find.
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    Love it how rival fans say that City are better than us, their new manager at Malaga had a lower win percentage than Moyes at Everton, they got rid of Tevez and Balotelli for Jovetic and Negredo who in my opinion are not as good as the other 2, Navas and Fernandino are great players but are not exactly world class, and whilst Thiago may have rejected us for Bayern, Isco definitely rejected them for Madrid.

    Chelsea have definitely improved with Jose, but their signings haven't exactly been amazing yet, and I don't know if they have improved by 15 points, if they get a proven world class striker then that'll change everything.

    We haven't improved this summer but a world class midfield signing like Cesc would definitely improve from last season and put us in contention for CL, even without a world class midfielder players like Nani, Valencia and Young cannot exactly have seasons like last, Kagawa will improve in his second season like he showed at the end of last season when he adapted to the PL, De Gea & Rafael will only get better, all this will make up for the loss of Fergie.
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    Newcastle fan here (season ticket holder for 2 years).

    See yous are trying to sign Fabregas for over £30m. With what money, exactly? Aren't yous already under a mountain of debt? Tired of the powers that be overlooking the debts of clubs like manchester and real madrid.

    Glad fergie is gone. Because of his bullying ways I don't think he will be remembered as fondly as his achievements deserve. In fact, I wonder if it is a coincidence that he usually came up short in Europe, the place where his bullying-the-officials tactics doesn't work... I also think his bully boy ways and the amount of cocky glory hunter armchair fans yous have have made me quite anti-MUFC down the years, hopefully under Moyes yous will become more likable.

    Good luck to him, be interesting to see if yous will give him a chance if he fails like yous gave fergie. I think he will take time to settle in and that Chelsea will win the league this year.

    Massive respect to the true MUFC fans, who are actually from manchester/have a Dad who supports them. Yous pack the stadium out each week.
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    How reliable is this guy on SSN that explicitly and clearly says that Cesc will be happy to move to United if Barca accept the offer, we put the bid in yesterday, our Chief left Australia on Wednesday probably because he heard about Cesc being willing to come to United and then getting back Thursday/Friday and putting the improved bid yesterday, obviously this is all optimistic guess work

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eubvGdAqGs
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    (Original post by rohitbd)
    Chelsea have definitely improved with Jose, but their signings haven't exactly been amazing yet, and I don't know if they have improved by 15 points, if they get a proven world class striker then that'll change everything.
    Chelsea's returning loanees are like new signings, and there are a lot of them. Lukaku we've seen is class, Kevin de Bruyne performed so well in the Bundesliga last year that BVB wanted him to replace Goetze and Kalas looked very solid in a Vitesse defence who managed to get into europe this year. We should also remember that Essien is now back at Chelsea too, but whether he can reproduce any of his old excellent ability will remain to be seen. I'm not sure how he did a Real Madrid, but he played a lot I think, mainly as right-back.

    Combine that with them getting Jose, as you said, and they've actually done really well for themselves without spending a penny. Van Ginkel was part of that Vitesse side Kalas was in, and there's lots of good things being said about him. Schurrle is probably the worst signing, he's supposed to be quite overrated. I haven't seen enough of him to comment, but it will give them another outlet if they want some pace down the wings.

    So yeah, I think Chelsea have strengthened significantly, more than any other team. They're my favourites for the title, and that's even before getting a striker (which I assume they will do).
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    (Original post by rohitbd)
    How reliable is this guy on SSN that explicitly and clearly says that Cesc will be happy to move to United if Barca accept the offer, we put the bid in yesterday, our Chief left Australia on Wednesday probably because he heard about Cesc being willing to come to United and then getting back Thursday/Friday and putting the improved bid yesterday, obviously this is all optimistic guess work

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eubvGdAqGs
    :beard: Hmmm...very interesting. Hopefully someone can comment on who he is and why he speaks like he has issues.
 
 
 
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