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    (Original post by Kenan and Kel)
    Stop feeding this guy.
    He didn't understand my logic despite doing the same thing he was doing(comparing people in different positions). Reckon it's a mix of troll and stupidity.
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    (Original post by Cutmeloose)
    Tottenham have a stronger squad than Arsenal though...

    Your manner of writing suggests that Arsenal are the team to beat this season.

    You're wanted back on Planet Earth mate.
    Oh no, I agree, atm Tottenham do have a better team than Arsenal, it's definitely the lack of play time that was the reason why we won.

    Arsenal certainly aren't the team to beat. It's gonna be close between the top 5 teams, United certainly aren't amongst them atm, at least not until you sign a good midfielder, who can create chances (Fellaini isn't him)
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    (Original post by Mr_Vain)
    Pissed about Jovetic more than any other player tbh, I really think he could have been an amazing player for us. £22m was a very good price. All that talk about him joining and then they got him.

    With Rooney and Suarez, I knew we had little chance because we are rival clubs, but a Fiorentina player was well within our grasp.

    But hey, my judgment of the value of the guy might be wrong.
    So that translates to essentially, you're bitter, so decide to put in a bull**** statement about city buying too many strikers this season when they clearly needed to or they'll have 2 strikers for 2 spots.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    He didn't understand my logic despite doing the same thing he was doing(comparing people in different positions). Reckon it's a mix of troll and stupidity.
    Yet you lot are comparing Walcott and Podolski to RVP? Neither are strikers, they're wingers. Comparing a winger to a striker is more idiotic than comparing a attacking midfielder to a box to box midfielder....

    Think it's more like sour grapes on your behalf mate, or just anger spilling over from losing to Liverpool?
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    (Original post by leinad2012)

    It's gonna be close between the top 5 teams, United certainly aren't amongst them atm, at least not until you sign a good midfielder, who can create chances (Fellaini isn't him)
    Manchester United, the champions will be challenging fora spot in Europa League and left trailing in the wake of Liverpool, Spurs, and Arsenal..really?

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    (Original post by Stopmessing)
    He is a top class player, but considering you already have plenty of creative, agile, technical players, is the fee going to justify what Ozil will bring to your side? Surely it would of have been more logical to spend it on a top quality striker or DM, positions where you need to improve?
    We could spend another 60m tonight purely in cash, its not a case of either/or. I'd also like a world class striker but there are not any available really. Cant think of one available at all, we probably should have bit the bullet with Higuain but that ship has sailed. Ozil however is a world class player who was available so I understand why we went for him. We will need some kind fo backup striker though so I guess that's why weve gone for Ba.
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    (Original post by NathanW18)
    Felliani isn't a B+ signing. That's overrating him.

    If Everton sign McCarthy, It looks like Felliani will be coming here. I just don't see what he offers in the vast majority of our matches. We had problems controlling a lot of games last season, so we go for Felliani? We're not going to pay around £25m for a guy to cover. If that's his price, he's going to start.
    He isn't going to start every game and certainly I doubt he's first choice for the big games. I think he's a good player to have for most league games and to rotate with Carrick(who was overplayed last season and will need to be rested). Worth 25m+? No, but then this summer we've been dire in the transfer market and clubs have us over the barrel.

    EDIT: According to SSN we're also prepared to meet Herrera's buyout clause(36m Euros)
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    (Original post by jam277)
    So that translates to essentially, you're bitter, so decide to put in a bull**** statement about city buying too many strikers this season when they clearly needed to or they'll have 2 strikers for 2 spots.

    They would have been fine, they don't need 4 strikers. 3 max. They are just greedy and irrational Arabs.
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    (Original post by leinad2012)
    Yet you lot are comparing Walcott and Podolski to RVP? Neither are strikers, they're wingers. Comparing a winger to a striker is more idiotic than comparing a attacking midfielder to a box to box midfielder....

    Think it's more like sour grapes on your behalf mate, or just anger spilling over from losing to Liverpool?
    I'm not a united fan.
    Not gonna answer the first bit as that was the whole point. :rofl: someones been putting something in your tap water.
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    (Original post by Cutmeloose)
    Manchester United, the champions will be challenging for Europa League, really?

    Fergie was the one driving your team last year, there's alot of disharmony at Old Trafford and you haven't been getting the players you wanted. If you compare your team to the likes of City and Chelsea it isn't close, nor is it close to Spurs and if Arsenal continue the way they are and get a few more players, I think you will really struggle.

    But hey, I guess you'll always have the 20 to fall back on in any argument like Liverpool fans do with their 5CL...
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    (Original post by leinad2012)
    Yet you lot are comparing Walcott and Podolski to RVP? Neither are strikers, they're wingers.
    Podolski has always been a centre forward/second striker, though occasionally he'd play on a wing when needed. It's only since he's been at Arsenal that he's been played completely out of position as a winger.

    You could say the same about Walcott too, he wants to be a striker.
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    (Original post by Mr_Vain)
    They would have been fine, they don't need 4 strikers. 3 max. They are just greedy and irrational Arabs.
    How many strikers do united have? What formation do both united and city play? But ones over the top and the other isn't. Letting your bias cloud your judgement.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    I'm not a united fan.
    Not gonna answer the first bit as that was the whole point. :rofl: someones been putting something in your tap water.
    So who would you compare Ozil to in the United squad? Who creates the chances at united?
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    (Original post by xDave-)
    Podolski has always been a centre forward/second striker, though occasionally he'd play on a wing when needed. It's only since he's been at Arsenal that he's been played completely out of position as a winger.

    You could say the same about Walcott too, he wants to be a striker.
    Podolski has 100 caps for Germany, the vast majority as a Left forward. But yeah I think he's a more than capable understudy to Giroud as ST
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    Herrera sounds like a good match with Carrick. Not worth the money in isolation but is he worth £30odd million to us? Possibly, considering our options at the moment. Probably not the best option of the summer but i'm really hoping he comes now, every club around us (even Arsenal ) has spent money so we can't just stand still.

    Not particularly keen on Fellaini but he'd offer something we don't have I suppose, if he comes in as well as someone else I think he'll be a much better signing than people are expecting.

    If we end up with both i'll be delighted. Herrera by himself i'm very happy. Fellaini by himself i'm fairly disappointed but we'd probably make it work. And if it's no one then...:afraid:
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    (Original post by xDave-)
    Podolski has always been a centre forward/second striker, though occasionally he'd play on a wing when needed. It's only since he's been at Arsenal that he's been played completely out of position as a winger.

    You could say the same about Walcott too, he wants to be a striker.
    Yes, but neither PLAY as striker. They can say they're strikers all they want, but they are played (effectively too) as wingers.

    If Rooney says he wants to be a centre back that doesn't make him a centre back (apart from by your logic)
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    (Original post by leinad2012)
    lol, I know the seasons young, but you're behind us in the league, and tbh, not looking like a threat in the slightest. I would honestly say that atm, I see Liverpool as more of a threat than United
    LOOL what ?? Once herrera comes we will have midfiels stability as he is a box to box midfielder and felleni will bring us another threat! ... Arsenal will not compete for the title as there defence isnt as good . They ddnt need another AM ! Liverpool / arsenal/ spurs will compete for 4th ... Once Lamela and eriksen click they will be the nglish gotze and reus
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    Ozil would have been a nice signing purely because he is world class and who doesn't want a world class player in their squad?

    Fair play to Arsenal
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    (Original post by leinad2012)
    So who would you compare Ozil to in the United squad? Who creates the chances at united?
    add to the fact that he's only 24...I honestly could see him on the wing, coming in. After today, i think i'll be too upset to talk about football.

    one thing i've learnt in life is that complacency kills. The reasoning Moyes gives to hardly chasing players this summer is that "we've already got a strong squad." Bayern had a strong squad - strengthened. PSG, RM, Barca, City etc. Why does this idiot think we can just coast again with pretty much the same squad. **** Fellani, i don't want the guy
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    (Original post by jam277)
    How many strikers do united have? What formation do both united and city play? But ones over the top and the other isn't. Letting your bias cloud your judgement.

    Real club (Utd) vs Vulgar plastic club (City)

    I would even prefer Liverpool (God forbid) to win the league rather than City.
 
 
 
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