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    Fellaini spotted on his way out of Everton and to United for his medical...

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    (Original post by Cutmeloose)
    Haha, yes, I'm sure you'll get the best years of his career.

    Don't cry if after two trophyless seasons at Arsenal, he's angling away for a move to Bayern Munich.

    For him to go from one of the top 2 teams in Spain to the 4/5 team in England can only mean one thing. He never had a better offer, odds are he'll have one eye on the exit door if your trophy less spell continues.
    Meh, I think it's too early to start talking about him leaving, he hasn't even joined yet :P Don't forget Arsenal are still a youngish squad, I think people are underestimating us (we've had a very strong end to last season, a good pre season and baring Villa, an OK start to this season).

    Don't forget we beat Bayern on their own turf, Chelsea didn't in 90 minutes and we only lost on away goals.

    We had the second best defensive record last year and Giroud is a changed man from the looks of it.

    I know everyone has already written us off, and I'm certainly not saying we're the team to beat, but we have a chance of getting some silverwear this year, if not being up there for the title at some point this season, even if we do fade away.
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      Finally Moyes gets someone! I was scared!
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      (Original post by leinad2012)
      Meh, I think it's too early to start talking about him leaving, he hasn't even joined yet :P Don't forget Arsenal are still a youngish squad, I think people are underestimating us (we've had a very strong end to last season, a good pre season and baring Villa, an OK start to this season).

      Don't forget we beat Bayern on their own turf, Chelsea didn't in 90 minutes and we only lost on away goals.

      We had the second best defensive record last year and Giroud is a changed man from the looks of it.

      I know everyone has already written us off, and I'm certainly not saying we're the team to beat, but we have a chance of getting some silverwear this year, if not being up there for the title at some point this season, even if we do fade away.
      I think most of your posts are bull**** but I have to agree that people have written off Arsenal prematurely. I still think they are top 4 team
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      (Original post by _Morsey_)
      I disagree, look at Ozil, he is getting his medical in Germany, i wouldn't rule Herrera off the board just yet.
      True, the Beeb seem to think travel will be a problem and he's the main man at Bilbao, who are also tough negotiators. Ozil isn't a major player at Real it appears, and lets face it, Real aren't exactly the best negotiators, considering the amound paid for a certain Welshman...
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      (Original post by NathanW18)
      This is how I know you're trolling. Hart has been in horrible form over a year. De Gea was one of our best players last season. He has been far better than Hart. If you would choose Hart, you don't watch United and City games.
      So are you a troll as you though De Gea is better than Lloris. Clearly you don't watch Tottenham games.

      Hart has been dodgy definitely, lack of competition, but I still would say on his day he is better
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      (Original post by leinad2012)
      Bit of a TSR rook so don't know how to break up the text :P
      I agree the adjustment in tactics at City could be destructive, but, then again, United have also only been playing with 2 strikers, Hernandez hardly gets a start.
      Hernandez is an impact sub and sometimes starts with Rooney/RVP supporting. But more importantly, he doesn't moan about it and still gets 10-15 a season.

      Vidic may still have a few years left, but Rio is certainly near the end (isn't that why that prick couldn't play for England?)
      Rio prolonged his career by not playing for England(and frankly I am glad he doesn't play in that vitriolic stuck-in-the-dark-ages garbage shambles) like Scholes before him. He has atleast 1-2 more top seasons in him and Evans has proven to be more than capable at the top level.
      De Gea is no where near Lloris, I'm sorry, but Lloris is a classy keeper. Hart seems off atm, but on their days I would still choose Hart.
      Hart has been poor for over an year, if De Gea had made half the errors Hart has in the past year the press would have slaughtered him(as they tried when he first arrived and he's since bulked up and since his performances in the 2nd half of the 2011-12 season shut them up). De Gea > Hart any day.
      You say United can't be written off, whilst at the same time, preceding to write Arsenal off? Funny tactic but there you go
      I am not writing Arsenal off, they will be fighting for top 4 spot with Spurs and maybe Liverpool (and certainly Ozil will help though they still lack strikers) but they are not, just like they haven't since 2007-08, in the race for the title and United are.
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      (Original post by Sami')
      I think most of your posts are bull**** but I have to agree that people have written off Arsenal prematurely. I still think they are top 4 team
      Well, agree to disagree then, tbh the points that have been put to me by some of you guys has made me laugh.

      The standard at the top is high this year, but there's already been some shock results. Tbh, I don't think any of the top 6 are dead certain of a top 4, though you'd definitely put your money on City and Chelsea getting top 4
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      (Original post by leinad2012)
      So are you a troll as you though De Gea is better than Lloris. Clearly you don't watch Tottenham games.

      Hart has been dodgy definitely, lack of competition, but I still would say on his day he is better
      Never said De Gea was better than Lloris. I would still have De Gea as he is the best young keeper in the world.

      No, he isn't.
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      It's pretty easy to write Arsenal off.

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      Scrappy debate but there isn't a better keeper in the league than De Gea, there are fluctuations in form from match to match but he's as good as anyone else in the league. Begovic is over rated, he had a good season with the classic midtable highlights reel of reflex saves. Becuase he plays for Stoke the mistakes get glossed over, got beaten from range at Pool where just flopped over, and then just inside at his near post by Chamakh. If he wasn't playing for Stoke he'd be getting the blame for both of those.

      Belgian national team tweeting about Fellaini not training with them and meeting up later.
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      (Original post by Sami')
      Manchester United becoming a mediocre team?
      well, i'm sure the liverpool team of the 80s at the time wouldn't have put mediocre and themselves in the same sentence. Look what happened in the 90s/2000s. Mediocrity by united standards, is challenging for 4th every year. There is a great chance that may happen in a few years.

      All this talk of having a strong squad is all for the here and now. Like I said, Fer is old. Vidic is old. Someone on this thread tried to use the exam of Zanetti...the italian league is far weaker and for so many other reasons. I guess my problem is i want to see a team being built for the future, with young talent being given a chance...when you want to spend £25+ m on a player like Fellani who, arguably plays the same position as Ozil...eyebrows have to be raised.

      But yh, I'm overreacting. My club is a top club, hence I compare it to what other top clubs/managers are doing in Europe. I guess we have a totally different transfer policy to the like of PSG,City, Chelsea and to a certain extent Bayern...but the managers at this club don't wait around seeing what the current crop of players are made of..they strengthen. All rabble as per usual
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      (Original post by ish90an)
      Hernandez is an impact sub and sometimes starts with Rooney/RVP supporting. But more importantly, he doesn't moan about it and still gets 10-15 a season.


      Rio prolonged his career by not playing for England(and frankly I am glad he doesn't play in that vitriolic stuck-in-the-dark-ages garbage shambles) like Scholes before him. He has atleast 1-2 more top seasons in him and Evans has proven to be more than capable at the top level.

      Hart has been poor for over an year, if De Gea had made half the errors Hart has in the past year the press would have slaughtered him(as they tried when he first arrived and he's since bulked up and since his performances in the 2nd half of the 2011-12 season shut them up). De Gea > Hart any day.


      I am not writing Arsenal off, they will be fighting for top 4 spot with Spurs and maybe Liverpool (and certainly Ozil will help though they still lack strikers) but they are not, just like they haven't since 2007-08, in the race for the title and United are.
      So Hernandez counts as an impact striker, but Dzeko doesn't? Come on mate show some class and validity in your argument.

      Let's just agree to disagree on the keeper front, Hart hat to play almost all City's games, De Gea had Lindeggard to take over in the smal fixtures. And considering City let in the least amount of goals last year, so to say that their keeper is rubbish is just stupid.

      Rio won't play as much this year, your problem last year was constantly changing your back 4, there was no routine cb's, which can lead to a lot of problems. Arsenal's centre backs have both been good this year and that's because they are used to playing with each other (not in that way you sick ****! :P).

      To say united are in the title race and Arsenal aren't after 3 games AND when Arsenal have been better so far just shows how thin your argument is.

      It's simple reputation that you are basing your facts on
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      (Original post by leinad2012)
      Haha, so you're going to get trophies with a manager yet to win a major trophy? United logic I guess
      funny your talking about trophies since you lot last won one in 2005 and it still aiant gna change. Moyes already won something which is the community shield whereas wenger since 2005: a big fat ZERO
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      Also, all these idiotic arsenal fans thinking Ozil is going to come and magically win you a trophy - no chance. He's one of those players that needs to play around quality... However, I guess it's a step in the right direction
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      (Original post by Over2you)
      well, i'm sure the liverpool team of the 80s at the time wouldn't have put mediocre and themselves in the same sentence. Look what happened in the 90s/2000s. Mediocrity by united standards, is challenging for 4th every year. There is a great chance that may happen in a few years.

      All this talk of having a strong squad is all for the here and now. Like I said, Fer is old. Vidic is old. Someone on this thread tried to use the exam of Zanetti...the italian league is far weaker and for so many other reasons. I guess my problem is i want to see a team being built for the future, with young talent being given a chance...when you want to spend £25+ m on a player like Fellani who, arguably plays the same position as Ozil...eyebrows have to be raised.

      But yh, I'm overreacting. My club is a top club, hence I compare it to what other top clubs/managers are doing in Europe. I guess we have a totally different transfer policy to the like of PSG,City, Chelsea and to a certain extent Bayern...but the managers at this club don't wait around seeing what the current crop of players are made of..they strengthen. All rabble as per usual
      Similar could be said of Leeds too.
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      (Original post by Over2you)
      Also, all these idiotic arsenal fans thinking Ozil is going to come and magically win you a trophy - no chance. He's one of those players that needs to play around quality... However, I guess it's a step in the right direction
      I'm an Arsenal fan (as you guys can tell) and it isn't Ozil on that gives me hope, it's Giroud's fine start to the season, the back 4 looking much stronger than normal, Cazorla and Wilshere teaming up well, and Theo on the wing (when that boy learns to cross, it'll be magic).

      And if Ozil joins, then it'll just add to the threat.

      You guys are acting as though Fellaini is going to make you title contenders, who's story is more bonkers?
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      (Original post by iAhmedd)
      funny your talking about trophies since you lot last won one in 2005 and it still aiant gna change. Moyes already won something which is the community shield whereas wenger since 2005: a big fat ZERO
      Oh yes, the community shield. Nothing beats winning a trophy noone gives a **** about against a Championship side....
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      (Original post by leinad2012)
      I'm an Arsenal fan (as you guys can tell) and it isn't Ozil on that gives me hope, it's Giroud's fine start to the season, the back 4 looking much stronger than normal, Cazorla and Wilshere teaming up well, and Theo on the wing (when that boy learns to cross, it'll be magic).

      And if Ozil joins, then it'll just add to the threat.

      You guys are acting as though Fellaini is going to make you title contenders, who's story is more bonkers?
      Well mate, I'm definitely not in that camp
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      (Original post by NathanW18)
      Never said De Gea was better than Lloris. I would still have De Gea as he is the best young keeper in the world.

      No, he isn't.
      Yes you did, you said De Gea is best in the league, only behind Cech and Begovic and said he was better than Hart and Lloris.

      Lloris and De Gea are the same age pretty much...
     
     
     
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