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    (Original post by jam277)
    Valencia at RB when you play arsenal.
    I think Rafael will be back by then. I do like Valencia at RB though. Every team should exploit Arsenal down the right. Cazorla on Arsenal's left isn't the best defensively. Gibbs is vulnerable as well.
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    (Original post by DaveSmith99)
    He's not even a good one. At least trolls like the guy who only rated big black guys was entertaining.
    :rofl: shame he got banned tbh liked him tbh.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    :rofl: shame he got banned tbh liked him tbh.
    I'm not banned?

    And thanks.

    I'm not trolling (although looking back some of my points weren't thought out), tbh some of your guys posts had more bs in (e.g. the guy acting as tho community shield is the CL)
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    Lol at this guy thinking he's a fun troll. Numpty.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    Valencia at RB when you play arsenal.
    I'll never forget that time we played them and Wenger brought on Arshavin and SAF jizzed his pants, instantly brought on Nani and dropped Valencia to right back and we just tore them to shreds down that side, scored from there and won the game in the final few mins.
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    (Original post by Kenan and Kel)
    I think Rafael will be back by then. I do like Valencia at RB though. Every team should exploit Arsenal down the right. Cazorla on Arsenal's left isn't the best defensive. Gibbs is vulnerable as well.
    Mentioned this on the Arsenal thread. I don't understand how it's possible for Wenger to be so oblivious to the glaring weakness on the wings. Utd have always played with traditional wingers, Valencia and Nani have always killed us but he doesn't change the team. Hope he'll at least play both our LBs when we next play you. But you'll still beat us because Rooney seems to always have a hard on when playing Arsenal, not to mention Judas will want to prove a point so he's guaranteed to score. I'm more looking forward to our games with Chelsea tbh, going to be interesting seeing Santi/Ozil come up against Oscar/Mata.
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    (Original post by Kenan and Kel)
    Lol at this guy thinking he's a fun troll. Numpty.
    Just because I've said what I think?

    My points have been backed up by statistics. Just because I have a different view to you guys doesn't mean I'm trolling, and it'll be nice come December to see that I'm telling the truth.

    The only time I was 'trolling' was when I put the picture of Ozil up, and that again was based on facts...
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    (Original post by TheInvincibles14)
    Mentioned this on the Arsenal thread. I don't understand how it's possible for Wenger to be so oblivious to the glaring weakness on the wings. Utd have always played with traditional wingers, Valencia and Nani have always killed us but he doesn't change the team. Hope he'll at least play both our LBs when we next play you. But you'll still beat us because Rooney seems to always have a hard on when playing Arsenal, not to mention Judas will want to prove a point so he's guaranteed to score. I'm more looking forward to our games with Chelsea tbh, going to be interesting seeing Santi/Ozil come up against Oscar/Mata.
    Yeah we're pretty well suited to be beating you guys, as long as Moysie doesn't start Young and Giggs on the wings. Monreal at left wing will probably be your best bet, and Cazorla dropping to the bench.

    With Cazorla and Ozil running riot between the lines, you could kill of a lot of league games in the first half if it all clicks. You have that set up to cause intense pressure against the weaker teams, similar to what Chelsea and City did in their opening fixtures. I think Mourinho will make your games against Chelsea a lot more boring than it should be, at least at the Emirates. Won't be much space in midfield with two narrow formations. Walcott could be the key.
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    It's great to see this thread hasn't degenerated into squabbles over Arsenal's new status as title contenders based on Ozil's signing.....

    Let's face facts. Ozil is an excellent player on his day and will bring something positive for Giroud but I would be more worried had they signed Higuain aswell for £34m rather than spending time on the "realistic" transfer of Suarez with their £40m and a pound bid. Also, they still haven't strengthened their defensive positions. Arsenal needed to sign the players of Ozil's ilk in other positions and at least 3-4 players but this seems Wenger's saving grace, on the last day of the transfer window to smash his transfer record by £27m and enjoy the praise from the fans for doing something that he should have done a while ago, namely Higuain. Giroud has started brightly but all his goals are in the comfort of home, let's see if he can do that AWAY from home and different types of goals.

    Apparently, that Fellaini medical pic is the one from DDG's, reading on Twitter. Everton facing an issue getting a replacement it seems aswell.

    Herrera deal has gone quite also.
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    (Original post by TheInvincibles14)
    Mentioned this on the Arsenal thread. I don't understand how it's possible for Wenger to be so oblivious to the glaring weakness on the wings. Utd have always played with traditional wingers, Valencia and Nani have always killed us but he doesn't change the team. Hope he'll at least play both our LBs when we next play you. But you'll still beat us because Rooney seems to always have a hard on when playing Arsenal, not to mention Judas will want to prove a point so he's guaranteed to score. I'm more looking forward to our games with Chelsea tbh, going to be interesting seeing Santi/Ozil come up against Oscar/Mata.
    I think it won't be a borefest at least. Our games are pretty exciting usually though now.

    This is the reason why I don't get you buying ozil over di maria.
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    (Original post by Kenan and Kel)
    Yeah we're pretty well suited to be beating you guys, as long as Moysie doesn't start Young and Giggs on the wings. Monreal at left wing will probably be your best bet, and Cazorla dropping to the bench.

    With Cazorla and Ozil running riot between the lines, you could kill of a lot of league games in the first half if it all clicks. You have that set up to cause intense pressure against the weaker teams, similar to what Chelsea and City did in their opening fixtures. I think Mourinho will make your games against Chelsea a lot more boring than it should be, at least at the Emirates. Won't be much space in midfield with two narrow formations. Walcott could be the key.
    Walcott isn't too great with his end product and his delivery is poor usually so against a parked bus that's a problem. I think it'll just turn into cagey 1-0's if we play boring. But I think that as we get used we will get better in our play on the counter and in possession which would lead to an exciting game unless we're 1-0 up with 20mins to go.
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    (Original post by Kenan and Kel)
    Yeah we're pretty well suited to be beating you guys, as long as Moysie doesn't start Young and Giggs on the wings. Monreal at left wing will probably be your best bet, and Cazorla dropping to the bench.

    With Cazorla and Ozil running riot between the lines, you could kill of a lot of league games in the first half if it all clicks. You have that set up to cause intense pressure against the weaker teams, similar to what Chelsea and City did in their opening fixtures. I think Mourinho will make your games against Chelsea a lot more boring than it should be, at least at the Emirates. Won't be much space in midfield with two narrow formations. Walcott could be the key.
    Was thinking the same thing re Cazorla and Ozil. We're going to absolutely annihiliate teams if it all clicks together, Ozil will bring out the best in the players around him. Similar to the effect Cesc had. I think the approach Mourinho takes in big games is a sensible one, if you look at what AVB's doing at Spurs it's as if he's clueless with their high defensive line.

    (Original post by jam277)
    I think it won't be a borefest at least. Our games are pretty exciting usually though now.

    This is the reason why I don't get you buying ozil over di maria.
    Judging by the Utd game Mourinho might shut up shop when you visit the Emirates and try and counter us. Will be interesting either way though, you had a sick record against us in his previous stint. I don't think we had a chance of signing Di Maria, he's the only back up to Bale and Isco, because Real have sold Kaka and Ozil. When a world-class player like Ozil is available you have to take him, it's like SAF signing RVP when United had Rooney, Hernandez and Kagawa in those positions.

    Saw a tweet earlier where some guy compared Perez approach this transfer window to previous years. Used the example of Bale (Beckham) and Neymar (Ronaldinho). And that Perez could potentially be selling the most underrated but vital player in the team Ozil (Makelele). History tends to repeats itself :laugh:
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    (Original post by Aky786UK)
    Herrera deal has gone quite also.
    I've got a feeling that one isn't going to come off. Deadline day with Bilboa, its going to take some swift and effective negotiating. Something we have seen no signs of this window.
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    (Original post by doggyfizzel)
    We're at the point where if we wanted to sign a midfielder for their actual value we should have done it last summer. Everyone knows we are the market for a midfielder and we are trying to close a deal from a club who don't want to sell and don't need to sell on deadline day. As Louis said, is he in isolation worth £30m, probably not. For the difference he worth £30m for the difference he would make to our team and our season, you bet he is.

    I would also challenge the decent but not worth £20m, how many midfielders who are decent go for less than £20m these days without some kind of contract issues or similar?
    Jordan Henderson and Joe Allen. :awesome:

    Paulinho went for £17m, Henrihk for £22m, Strootman for £15m iirc, there were deals out there tbh. You spent far too long dicking about after Fabregas when it was never going to happen.
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    (Original post by doggyfizzel)
    I've got a feeling that one isn't going to come off. Deadline day with Bilboa, its going to take some swift and effective negotiating. Something we have seen no signs of this window.
    It doesn't take any; we pay the release clause or we don't get him. Athletic Club don't negotiate, that's who they are.

    The hard part is dealing with the player. There's a way to avoid some tax law that I think is applied to foreign payments, and bumps up the price a lot. In order to avoid it, you give the player the transfer fee and then he pays his own release clause. Bayern did this with Javi Martinez. Sorting all that out with about four hours to go is unlikely to happen.

    But you'd assume they'd have negotiated all this with the player already if they were actually going to buy him, so it's not impossible. But that would require you to assume United are remotely competent right now
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    Strootman was such a miss, spurs have signed loads of decent mids yet we cant p*** in a bucket
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    (Original post by doggyfizzel)
    I've got a feeling that one isn't going to come off. Deadline day with Bilboa, its going to take some swift and effective negotiating. Something we have seen no signs of this window.
    I hope it does but it does seem indicative of our transfer dealings that things are getting down abit too late. The only way to speed it up is by paying the clause (which according to some) has been done which saves time and personal terms should be handled efficiently and I assume a medical could be done in Spain, like Ozil's.

    Everton are chasing after a replacement for Fellaini so even that one isn't sealed and probably won't until late evening.
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    Not that I rate the guy's punditry, but Jamie Redknapp got it spot on - Man Utd have looked amateurish this window. The biggest thing that probably got me angry the most was that stupid chase of Fabregas. When have you ever seen Man Utd chase a player the way we chased him? I'm so ******* off. I keep repeating the same things every single bloody post arghhhhh
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    (Original post by Over2you)
    Not that I rate the guy's punditry, but Jamie Redknapp got it spot on - Man Utd have looked amateurish this window. The biggest thing that probably got me angry the most was that stupid chase of Fabregas. When have you ever seen Man Utd chase a player the way we chased him? I'm so ******* off. I keep repeating the same things every single bloody post arghhhhh
    Arsene Wenger has eluded some criticism about his transfer dealings. Took a major interest in Higuain to the point where it was being reported, that terms had been agreed between the player and club, but issues over the transfer fee (£34m). He dilly-dallied around before Napoli stole in before trying to sign Suarez when Liverpool made it clear they wouldn't sell to Arsenal and not for that price yet they bidded £40m and a POUND. Can you imagine the criticism had we done that for Fabregas?! This is Wenger who has been at the club for over a decade, won trophies and more experienced when it comes to dealing in the market. But I guess, its ending well for them with the Ozil signing.

    It's frustrating with Moyes but Woodward has hardly covered himself in glory and shown he's got alot of hard work to do to settle into his job dealing with football matters. United were led down the garden-path, i.e Fabregas, were probably mis-led by an agent that Fab would be willing to leave but I don't think he was as willing as suggested. He just needed re-assurance.
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    Herrera to United starting to heat up again

 
 
 
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