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    Match thread for Tuesday's 2nd leg v Madrid up :yy:
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    Just wrote this in the other thread but I'll put it here too, as it hasn't been mentioned on the thread yet.

    Turkish referee Cuneyt Cakir has been appointed by UEFA to referee the game. His only previous game at Old Trafford was a scrappy 2-2 draw with SL Benfica in November 2011 which set United up for elimination in Basel three weeks later. He also refereed us in a 2-1 loss in Bilbao which again, ended our European season. He's best known for ruining games by stopping play for the slightest thing and handing out cards liberally. City vs Kiev (9 yellows and a red); Porto vs City (8 yellows); Barca vs Chelsea (8 yellows and a red) etc.

    In other words he's an overly officious, card-happy official who'd stop play for a sneeze. Expect a fractious, disjointed game of football on Tuesday night.
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    (Original post by IanDangerously)
    Just wrote this in the other thread but I'll put it here too, as it hasn't been mentioned on the thread yet.

    Turkish referee Cuneyt Cakir has been appointed by UEFA to referee the game. His only previous game at Old Trafford was a scrappy 2-2 draw with SL Benfica in November 2011 which set United up for elimination in Basel three weeks later. He also refereed us in a 2-1 loss in Bilbao which again, ended our European season. He's best known for ruining games by stopping play for the slightest thing and handing out cards liberally. City vs Kiev (9 yellows and a red); Porto vs City (8 yellows); Barca vs Chelsea (8 yellows and a red) etc.

    In other words he's an overly officious, card-happy official who'd stop play for a sneeze. Expect a fractious, disjointed game of football on Tuesday night.
    That is exactly what real madrid want and totally opposite to what man utd want. Real Madrid are known to go down on little touches, so they will be more used to being touched-go down-get a freekick. So know from the point go they have a slight advantage. Always happens...
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    Casillas returning would be a huge boost for them, in a similiar way it would be for us if Jones was fully fit considering his performance in the first leg. But the GK suffered a thumb injury so I can't imagine that it's going to be that problematic (if he's fully recuperated) for him to play. I'd imagine a hamstring, calf etc would be much more of an issue. It'd be brave of Mourinho to take him to Manchester and leave on the bench when Lopez is likely to be edgy a tad in a game of that magnitude.

    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    Quote from a Tevez article
    I found this on Google Images searching for Scholes as it always gives me a warm feeling inside that someone as shy and reserved as Scholes is so widely respected across the footballing world.

    I don't know if the text has been imprinted on via Photoshop but a cool picture nevertheless:

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    (Original post by Aky786UK)

    I don't know if the text has been imprinted on via Photoshop but a cool picture nevertheless:
    The worst photoshop I have ever seen lol
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    ^LOL, I thought so but I'm not an expert in deciphering if it was or not. Agree with its message though.
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    Quotes regarding Scholes
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    In the last 15 to 20 years the best central midfielder that I have seen — the most complete — is Scholes. I have spoken with Xabi Alonso about this many times. Scholes is a spectacular player who has everything. He can play the final pass, he can score, he is strong, he never gets knocked off the ball and he doesn’t give possession away. If he had been Spanish then maybe he would have been valued more.
    Xavi

    My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder.
    Zinedine Zidane

    Rooney is one of the best players in the world and I love watching him play. But if you had to pick out only one, then for their history and for all that they have achieved it would have to be Paul Scholes or Ryan Giggs. They are two shining examples for any player.
    Andres Iniesta

    Everywhere I go the coaches all tell me that Scholsey is the player they admire. But if they think they’ll get him they’re wasting their time! Paul is a Manc lad pure and simple. He loves the club and there’s no chance of him leaving here. If ever he decided to go there would be a stampede, but he won’t be going, he’s here for life.
    Sir Alex Ferguson (Jan 2003)

    I’m not the best, Paul Scholes is.
    Edgar Davids, in his prime

    I told Moratti Scholes is a “mission impossible” man. It’s more than money with him. He was born just a few blocks away from Old Trafford. It`s about wearing United’s colours.
    Inter owner Massimo Moratti’s adviser, Pino Pagliara (July 2000)

    Out of everyone at Manchester United, I would pick out Scholes – he is the best midfielder of his generation. I would have loved to have played alongside him.
    Pep Guardiola

    I tell anyone who asks me – Scholes is the best English player.
    Laurent Blanc

    An amazingly gifted player who remained an unaffected human being.
    Roy Keane

    I have no hesitation in putting a name to the embodiment of all that I think is best about football. It’s Paul Scholes. Players like Denis Law and George Best who I enjoyed so much as team-mates and now, finally, players I have watched closely in the Alex Ferguson era. And in so many ways Scholes is my favourite. I love his nous and conviction that he will find a way to win, to make the killer pass or produce the decisive volley.
    Sir Bobby Charlton

    The player in the Premiership I admire most? Easy – Scholes.
    Patrick Vieira

    He is the one whose level I aspire to. He is the best player in the Premier League.
    Cesc Fabregas

    I can’t understand why Scholes has never won the player of the year award. He should have won it long ago. Maybe it’s because he doesn’t seek the limelight like some of the other ‘stars’.
    Thierry Henry

    Nobody else in the world can play the way Scholes does. The passes he produces all over the field and the way he changes the game is brilliant. Every manager would like him. But luckily he is here and playing with us. Paul practices that all the time. When he has finished training he always goes out and shoots.
    Dimitar Berbatov

    Why isn’t he playing for England? It is crazy. Only in England. Scholes is a great, great player. So experienced and still, for me, one of the best in the world in midfield. Manchester United are lucky to have him.
    Jose Mourinho

    Paul Scholes had the best football brain I’d ever seen in a kid. Let’s face it. Paul Scholes is in a class of its own.
    Brian Kidd

    Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team – that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. He would have been one of the first players I’d have bought, given the chance.
    Marcello Lippi

    Scholes is undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation.
    Zinedine Zidane

    He is a very complete, spectacular footballer. He always fights for the ball and tries to lose his marker to help his team-mates – either to defend or to have a shot on goal. For any football player in the Premiership, Scholes is a player you want to emulate. I would happily end my career with the medals that Scholes has. I am young and I hope that I will be able to surpass him – but it is not going to be easy.
    Cesc Fabregas

    Juan Sebasticn Veron while at Chelsea being asked in an interview who’s the best English player : “Paul Scholes.”
    Paul Scholes is just fantastic. When you play alongside him, you realise what a special talent he is.
    Michael Carrick

    Very few players can do that, but Scholes is one of them – and I knew he was one of them. That’s why, without question, I think Paul Scholes is the best player in England. He’s got the best skills, the best brain. No one can match him.
    Sir Alex Ferguson

    England have lost their best player
    George Best after Paul retired from international football

    There isn’t a player of his mould anywhere in the world.
    Glen Hoddle

    For me, it’s Paul Scholes. He’ll do ridiculous things in training like say, “You see that tree over there?” – it’ll be 40 yards away – “I’m going to hit it”. And he’ll do it. Everyone at the club considers him the best.”
    Rio Ferdinand

    I wouldn’t swap Paul Scholes for anybody. He is quite simply the most complete footballer I have ever played with. He is the best.
    Gary Neville

    He’s always in the right position, always seems to be at the end of the box when the ball drops in. The complete midfielder – when he’s fit, he’s the best. Some go missing but he’s in the right place at the right time. He’s my favourite player of all-time, unbelievable. If you give him a chance it’s a goal, isn’t it?
    Micah Richards

    We won’t ever see another one like Paul Scholes. He is a legend and a real benchmark. He is not interested in the modern-day footballer’s life off the pitch, but he is a world-class player on it. He has probably never really got the true recognition he deserved outside of Manchester United because he never did the media. He didn’t do interviews and never put himself out for things like that. I cannot believe he has never been nominated for World, European or domestic individual honours because in his prime he was scoring 20 goals a season from midfield. It is astonishing he has never won a personal award, but given the choice of winning something and then having to get up and do the speech, I think he would rather not have won them!
    Darren Fletcher

    He’s the best one- or two-touch passer in the country. He sees the game unlike any other player.
    Terry Venables

    If you ask footballers to pick out the player they most admire, so many of them will pick Paul Scholes. He can tackle, and his passing and shooting is of the highest level. He’s the most consistent and naturally gifted player we’ve had for a long, long time.
    Alan Shearer

    Paul Scholes has been the best England midfield player for 30-odd years. You’d probably have to go back to Bobby Charlton to find someone who could do as much as Scholes. When the ball arrives at his feet he could tell you where every player on that pitch is at that moment. His awareness is superb.
    Gordon Strachan

    Paul, for me, is the best player in the England team. It worries teams. Speak to any other international team and they will single Paul out as England’s key player. For me, he doesn’t get the full credit that he deserves. He is a world-class player and deserves to be up there with the likes of Zidane and Figo.
    Phil Neville

    Scholes is one of the most complete footballers I’ve ever seen. His one-touch play is phenomenal. Whenever I have played against him, I never felt I could get close to him.
    Eidur Gudjohnsen

    For years Paul Scholes has been one of the best players in the Premiership. He’s incredible. He has always been under-rated throughout his career. He’s a team player, a one and two-touch footballer who makes good decisions on the pitch and makes his team play.
    Thierry Henry

    He has an awareness of what’s happening around him on the edge of the box which is better than most players. As a kid he always had a knack of arriving in the penalty area just at the right time, but he’s proving just as effective from outside the box because he’s using his experience in the right way. It doesn’t matter who I am thinking about bringing into my midfield, Paul Scholes will be included, as he would in any side in the world.
    Sir Alex Ferguson
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    (Original post by Aky786UK)
    ^LOL, I thought so but I'm not an expert in deciphering if it was or not. Agree with its message though.
    You agree? I mean, Scholes is good but he isn't THAT good as what's written on the card.
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    Jones absent from training
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    (Original post by pinda.college)
    If you ask footballers to pick out the player they most admire, so many of them will pick Paul Scholes. He can tackle, and his passing and shooting is of the highest level. He’s the most consistent and naturally gifted player we’ve had for a long, long time.
    Alan Shearer
    Depends what his definition of a tackle is I guess
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    (Original post by qasidb)
    You agree? I mean, Scholes is good but he isn't THAT good as what's written on the card.
    If you discard Messi and possibly Villa from that placard then I'd say yes. Scholes, from a technical level was and is still outstanding (although to a lesser degree now).

    As well as Giggs has done of late, and the good-will towards him with the new deal and 1,000th appearance, can't let emotion come into it. He'll definitely add composed passing if he plays attacking wise but I feel his defensive duties will be exposed unless he strictly stays in our half because if he goes forward and gets caught out, they've got players who will take advantage.

    I'd back Cleverley to play, it's a massive game but one that he needs aswell.
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    (Original post by ledleyking123)
    Jones will probs make it. Does anyone else think we shouldn't play kagawa he was poor in the away game much rather some width with nani/valencia
    Indifferent about Kagawa. But with the hat-trick on Saturday, he's a sure bet to start. SAF rewards top performances. After Hernandez came on and scored that 'hat-trick', SAF said in the post match interview that he's played himself into the starting line-up. I think this will be the case with Kagawa as well.
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    (Original post by Kenan and Kel)
    Indifferent about Kagawa. But with the hat-trick on Saturday, he's a sure bet to start. SAF rewards top performances. After Hernandez came on and scored that 'hat-trick', SAF said in the post match interview that he's played himself into the starting line-up. I think this will be the case with Kagawa as well.
    He did have a lot of chanes in the first 20 mins or so.. he kept breaking through - but not being able to finish them..

    maybe with the confidence from the weekend, he actually will this time?
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    (Original post by fallen_acorns)
    He did have a lot of chanes in the first 20 mins or so.. he kept breaking through - but not being able to finish them..

    maybe with the confidence from the weekend, he actually will this time?
    I wouldn't class them as chances tbh. I'd say they were opportunities to get himself into positions to score or help RVP. It happened that the ball wasn't good into him or he had a bad touch.

    I'd rather he start again tbh, the hat-trick has come at a perfect time and his movement might unsettle Madrid. I'm hoping with their focus on RVP, Rooney etc that he might be our Silent Asian Assasin.
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    (Original post by IanDangerously)
    Turkish referee Cuneyt Cakir has been appointed by UEFA to referee the game. His only previous game at Old Trafford was a scrappy 2-2 draw with SL Benfica in November 2011 which set United up for elimination in Basel three weeks later. He also refereed us in a 2-1 loss in Bilbao which again, ended our European season. He's best known for ruining games by stopping play for the slightest thing and handing out cards liberally. City vs Kiev (9 yellows and a red); Porto vs City (8 yellows); Barca vs Chelsea (8 yellows and a red) etc.

    In other words he's an overly officious, card-happy official who'd stop play for a sneeze. Expect a fractious, disjointed game of football on Tuesday night.
    Just the sort of referee you don't want against Real I feel. Although going into the closing stages whoever is still chasing will just be getting more and more frustrated. If he's as whistle and card happy as before we could see some fireworks...

    So excited for later :teeth:
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    I want Welbeck to start. He offers something different, pace, he can run with the ball and his link up play is great.
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    Stay strong boys. We still have two trophies to win this season.
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    Ref ruined the game, oh well.
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    I'm disgusted, the better team lost today
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    Refs a ****, literally everything was going to plan up until the red card. Welbeck and Giggs both had an excellent games.


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