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    I was just wondering if any gay people support UKIP. Obviously the party does not support gay marriage but does civil partnerships and freedom from persecution. Our you able to look past this one policy of the parties and like their other policies
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    Theres bound to be some populist misinformed people (gay or not) that support ukip
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    (Original post by Alex_Jones)
    Theres bound to be some populist misinformed people (gay or not) that support ukip
    populist is simply a non word
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    (Original post by The Islander)
    populist is simply a non word
    at least misinformed is a word eh?
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    As much as I really don't like some of their other policies, if push came to shove, UKIP any day over the likes of the BNP, although I am a labour party supporter.
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    (Original post by Alex_Jones)
    at least misinformed is a word eh?
    UKIP voters being misinformed is only your opinion !
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    UKIP aren't even fussed about gay marriage because it is a minority issue that can wait for the time being till the UK is fixed.
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    I would like to think most gay people's politics is separate from their sexuality...
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    As far as I can tell the main backers of gay marriage aren't even gay.

    Also what the hell is wrong with civil partnership?
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    well i am gay and marriage is different from a civil partnership and i do support gay marriage but they doesn't stop me from voting ukip because there are far more important issues e.g. eu, immigration, student fees
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    (Original post by Hooj)
    UKIP aren't even fussed about gay marriage because it is a minority issue that can wait for the time being till the UK is fixed.
    The party might think it's a distraction, but their voters probably don't. A great many of them likely see it as yet another signal that our green and pleasant land is being taken over by a bunch of wishy-washy liberal, lefty, politically correct, lesbian-hugging, tree-buggering, hummus-munching, SOAS-attending, Christmas-banning, couldn't-fight-a-war-if-they-tried Rowan Williams type chutney-nudgers who need to be immediately clamped-down upon.

    The great irony of trying to run a party which ostensibly claims to be Libertarian without its members being particularly liberal at all. And all this while they don't even have any MPs to have any influence over the decision anyway!
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    (Original post by L i b)
    The party might think it's a distraction, but their voters probably don't. A great many of them likely see it as yet another signal that our green and pleasant land is being taken over by a bunch of wishy-washy liberal, lefty, politically correct, lesbian-hugging, tree-buggering, hummus-munching, SOAS-attending, Christmas-banning, couldn't-fight-a-war-if-they-tried Rowan Williams type chutney-nudgers who need to be immediately clamped-down upon.

    The great irony of trying to run a party which ostensibly claims to be Libertarian without its members being particularly liberal at all. And all this while they don't even have any MPs to have any influence over the decision anyway!
    That may have just been the best thing I've ever seen on TSR.
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    I am gay and I voted for UKIP in the 2009 EU Election, even though I was a staunch supporter of Gordon Brown and the Labour Party at the time.

    Why did I vote for UKIP? Because, at the time, I believed them to be the party that believed most in freedom from the oppressive European Union and I wanted the Labour Party to become more Eurosceptic.
    For gay people, there are other issues other than just gay state marriage. In fact, I still consider gay state marriage to be almost a non-issue where gay equality is concerned.

    But, just to clarify, I absolutely hate them now. I am now, what some people would call, a "libertarian socialist"... or "anarchist".
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    (Original post by The Islander)
    populist is simply a non word
    Populist - appealing to the interests or prejudices of ordinary people.

    1. A supporter of the rights and power of the people.2. Populist A supporter of the Populist Party.
    adj.
    1. Of or relating to populism or its advocates: a populist aversion to business monopolies.
    2. Populist Of or relating to the Populist Party.
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/populist
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    (Original post by Solarstorm)
    Populist - appealing to the interests or prejudices of ordinary people.



    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/populist
    It a bull**** term, I do not care for its definition. I thought appealing to the interests of ordinary people was called democracy ? And being euroskeptic is prejudiced, if thats prejudice then all political views are prejudiced.

    It's a ridiculous non word
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    (Original post by The Islander)
    It a bull**** term, I do not care for its definition. I thought appealing to the interests of ordinary people was called democracy ? And being euroskeptic is prejudiced, if thats prejudice then all political views are prejudiced.

    It's a ridiculous non word
    Prejudice - An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/prejudices

    I might occasionally agree with UKIP and certainly have agreed with them in the past but there is no denying the fact that they appeal to right wing populist sentiment in the UK.

    They appeal to the immediate and ill-informed reactions people have when they think about the EU and when they read about immigration in the media.

    'Bloody immigrants nicking our jobs again, we should send them all back.'

    Appealing to populist sentiment in the masses to simply gain political power is anything but democratic in my view, it's manipulation.
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    There are 0 reasons to oppose gay marriage. Every argument against it is quite simply rubbish. Numerous countries have introduced gay marriage without consequence. So therefor the only reason I can see to oppose it i homophobia.

    So would I vote for a homophobic party? No I would not,opposition to it is also devoid of logic and I won't vote for a party that lacks that.

    Lastly to those who might say "they aren't homophobic because they support civil partnerships" well that's rubbish.
    Opposing civil rights legislation is one thing,repealing it is another.
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    (Original post by L i b)
    The party might think it's a distraction, but their voters probably don't. A great many of them likely see it as yet another signal that our green and pleasant land is being taken over by a bunch of wishy-washy liberal, lefty, politically correct, lesbian-hugging, tree-buggering, hummus-munching, SOAS-attending, Christmas-banning, couldn't-fight-a-war-if-they-tried Rowan Williams type chutney-nudgers who need to be immediately clamped-down upon.

    The great irony of trying to run a party which ostensibly claims to be Libertarian without its members being particularly liberal at all. And all this while they don't even have any MPs to have any influence over the decision anyway!
    This is one of the best summaries of UKIP I've seen. Most of their leadership are simply Thatcherites who think that the Tories are now a complete dead end for them. With the exception of immigration, they're largely indifferent to social issues - they don't explicitly support stuff like gay marriage, but won't care if it's passed.

    UKIP voters, on the other hand, tend to be social authoritarians who think the Tories are too liberal but who also wince at the thought of the BNP, so they go midway and vote for UKIP because of their pet issues with immigration.
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    (Original post by Solarstorm)
    Prejudice - An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/prejudices

    I might occasionally agree with UKIP and certainly have agreed with them in the past but there is no denying the fact that they appeal to right wing populist sentiment in the UK.

    They appeal to the immediate and ill-informed reactions people have when they think about the EU and when they read about immigration in the media.

    'Bloody immigrants nicking our jobs again, we should send them all back.'

    Appealing to populist sentiment in the masses to simply gain political power is anything but democratic in my view, it's manipulation.
    So they are ill informed because you say so ? How do you know they are ill informed ? You do not know that do you
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    Just one lie after another on this thread. Its like a parade of the cultural marxists above me. Homophobic this, populist that.

    No one said any of this about UKIP until recently. Now that leftists realize that a party that has not been subverted by their bigoted ideology is on the rise, they dont know what to do. So back to name calling and playing to peoples fears to [I]try/I] and win the argument.

    Pathetic, all of you.
 
 
 
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