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You maths types with your assuredness and your 100% scores! I can already see this becoming annoying. Try a subject like history, or any humanities, where even a far greater degree of *critical* thought and encyclopaedic knowledge won't get you a perfect score! :P

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This might sound weird, but I feel slightly inadequate with A*AA! I know I'm in so I am really happy still but I think I'll be average at best at Cambridge!!
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(Original post by HistoryHistory)
You maths types with your assuredness and your 100% scores! I can already see this becoming annoying. Try a subject like history, or any humanities, where even a far greater degree of *critical* thought and encyclopaedic knowledge won't get you a perfect score! :P

-Disclaimer- I am just poking fun.


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I know someone who did History at St. John's who got a starred first (that's about as much of a perfect score as you can get right?)
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Look who is talking Mr. 'I get special phone calls' Girlfriend's prove useful!
I suppose I'd better get used to this. :lol: It was nothing special; I didn't even get what I wanted put in!
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(Original post by HistoryHistory)
You maths types with your assuredness and your 100% scores! I can already see this becoming annoying. Try a subject like history, or any humanities, where even a far greater degree of *critical* thought and encyclopaedic knowledge won't get you a perfect score! :P

-Disclaimer- I am just poking fun.
Well, if it helps to redeem us Arts-y folks, I got 100% in my history A level Maybe us Arts people should emphasise our strong points to even out the discussion

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Well, if it helps to redeem us Arts-y folks, I got 100% in my history A level Maybe us Arts people should emphasise our strong points to even out the discussion

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If your experience is anything like mine, get used to spending three years feeling inferior to the scientists...
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I know someone who did History at St. John's who got a starred first (that's about as much of a perfect score as you can get right?)
I don't mean to say you can't get a high first - i just did for my dissertation. I mean to say no historian would award an essay 100%, for example, because the subject is based upon interpretation and conjecture. The competent mathematicians, on the other hand, will be awarded 100% all of the time, because there is a 'correct' answer for them to find.

But well done to your friend!
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Well, if it helps to redeem us Arts-y folks, I got 100% in my history A level Maybe us Arts people should emphasise our strong points to even out the discussion

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Well done you :P. However I am probably right in saying that means you ticked the appropriate boxes, rather than that your historical interpretation is 100% accurate.

Not to demean your success, which is of course promising, but you will soon find that A Level history is looked upon rather despairingly by university academics - who see a lot of people who struggle to write essays, and who are used to the rote learning of 'facts', which do not exist in any meaningful sense.

In the main, it is often said that the postmodernist movement has completely failed to permeate the A Level curriculum - which is further diminished by political interference and a dependency upon patriotic or nationalist themes. Hitler and the Nazis being the obvious example.
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If your experience is anything like mine, get used to spending three years feeling inferior to the scientists...
Haha, I have a sibling who's a Cambridge scientist, I'm already used to the feeling

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Well done you :P. However I am probably right in saying that means you ticked the appropriate boxes, rather than that your historical interpretation is 100% accurate.

Not to demean your success, which is of course promising, but you will soon find that A Level history is looked upon rather despairingly by university academics - who see a lot of people who struggle to write essays, and who are used to the rote learning of 'facts', which do not exist in any meaningful sense.

In the main, it is often said that the postmodernist movement has completely failed to permeate the A Level curriculum - which is further diminished by political interference and a dependency upon patriotic or nationalist themes. Hitler and the Nazis being the obvious example.
Of course I know the degree is going to be a hell of a lot harder. As you say, there is of course no perfect essay or interpretation. I was speaking only in jest in regards to the scientists and mathematicians.
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If your experience is anything like mine, get used to spending three years feeling inferior to the scientists...
I shall be doing History of Science. It's a necessary, entertaining and effective way of undermining them :P. Newton, for example, and his overlooked Alchemical and Biblical tendencies
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Haha, I have a sibling who's a Cambridge scientist, I'm already used to the feeling



Of course I know the degree is going to be a hell of a lot harder. As you say, there is of course no perfect essay or interpretation. I was speaking only in jest in regards to the scientists and mathematicians.
We can't let them get too confident
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In the main, it is often said that the postmodernist movement has completely failed to permeate the A Level curriculum - which is further diminished by political interference and a dependency upon patriotic or nationalist themes. Hitler and the Nazis being the obvious example.
Agreed on the last point, but I am under the impression 'excessive' postmodernism in history has itself been challenged recently....notably by Richard Evans (in 'In Defence of History'). That would imply the current A Level isn't completely out of touch with pretty much every university academic. That right? I may be completely wrong as I've only just done the A Level myself

Congrats to everyone who got in btw, I'm so happy I managed to get my offer...
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Agreed on the last point, but I am under the impression 'excessive' postmodernism in history has itself been challenged recently....notably by Richard Evans (in 'In Defence of History'). That would imply the current A Level isn't completely out of touch with pretty much every university academic. That right? I may be completely wrong as I've only just done the A Level myself

Congrats to everyone who got in btw, I'm so happy I managed to get my offer...
Definitely true that postmodernism can go too far. However it's not a clear cut choice between postmodernism and the A Level curriculum as it stands. Evans is still a progressive and you will notice for instance that he has been one of the leading critics of Gove and Starkey's view of history, and of their plans for the history curriculum in schools.

That is a great book though.


p.s. Have a look at this - I do not mean to infer that the Daily Mail is right in its leanings, but it highlights how this argument is operating: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...story-Men.html
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Are you automatically in the summer pool if you missed your offer and haven't been rejected on UCAS? Or have you been notified you are in the Summer Pool? Many thanks
I don't know- I haven't been rejected on UCAS, and haven't been notified that I'm in the summer pool, so I'm merely assuming.
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I wasn't told that I was in the pool, I emailed my college to check if they got my UMS, and asked if I could have an update on what was happening with my application. Maybe you could try that?
Have you heard anything about it yet? I rang up yesterday to confirm they got my UMS, and have just emailed to inform them about a re-mark and to ask about the pooling situation, so thank you
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Have you heard anything about it yet? I rang up yesterday to confirm they got my UMS, and have just emailed to inform them about a re-mark and to ask about the pooling situation, so thank you
Not a thing. I think we have to wait till the pool is over?
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Hi there, I think I remember you from the Winter Pool thread! :hello: The fishing colleges seem to have set some really tough offers this year. I know at my college, we had a post-Pool offer-holder visit day and they did say to us then not to panic about the high offers as they might well still accept us if we narrowly missed. This has been proved true in my case as I was 3 ums off A* in English and they accepted me after a few hours - it should definitely help your case that you are so close in both the subjects which you have A's in. And if not, all offer-holders with A*AA (except Maths i think) are automatically entered into Summer Pool, where I think you would have a good chance given that you achieved the grades which are the university's normal standard offer and very nearly made more A*s. I know it's a tough waiting game :hugs: but sit tight, try to find yourself something good to do to keep you occupied and hopefully something good will come your way soon xx
Hello! Of course, I'd remember your username anywhere. Thank you so much for your support, I have actually been periodically reading this message to lift my hopes up. Congratulations on being accepted by the way! You must be ecstatic.
It's not long now until I find out my fate, I think they're making all the important decisions now. Magdalene still haven't contacted me so I'm taking that as a sign that I'm in the summer pool. Realistically, I don't think it's likely I'll be fished yet another time. However, the email I received yesterday did say that they would be happy to take me if my grades went up after a remark. So perhaps I'll get a second chance. Or maybe that's my desire to not give up on Cambridge talking.
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Not a thing. I think we have to wait till the pool is over?
Yep, I guess so. Good luck!
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Definitely true that postmodernism can go too far. However it's not a clear cut choice between postmodernism and the A Level curriculum as it stands. Evans is still a progressive and you will notice for instance that he has been one of the leading critics of Gove and Starkey's view of history, and of their plans for the history curriculum in schools.

That is a great book though.


p.s. Have a look at this - I do not mean to infer that the Daily Mail is right in its leanings, but it highlights how this argument is operating: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...story-Men.html
Oh yeah totally, I wasn't trying to endorse the (in my view) outdated, Whiggish and triumphalist attitude to national history that people like Starkey, Gove and Ferguson (particularly on the British Empire) espouse. Guess that makes me a militant Marxist, British hating supporter of Stalin's genocide, according to the Mail writer

I was just making the point, that you've acknowledged, that most academics don't believe the hard post-modern view that there is no such thing as history, just pure interpretation.
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Stalking me?

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Thanks, will be seeing you soonish I guess Which accommodation have you applied for?
Awesome - I've already found you
Yeah, just my way of distinguishing it as being equivalent to an extra As level (except you can get an a*)





Yes, yes you are I mean, unless there's an incredible coincidence in someone completely matching your username :L
And yes, it is a very cool name Out of interest, how hard is it to find me?

Incidentally, I didn't even know you were Pembroke Etoile? Will have to try to stalk work out who you are too :rolleyes:
I'm not - I just looked on the Pembroke page and saw him I'm Gonville & Caius.
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