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    By all definitions encapsulated within the religeon of Christianity, one must conclude homosexuality does not and can not exist in that particular religeon.

    Christians cannot be homosexual, therefore a homosexual priest cannot exist by Christianity axioms.
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    (Original post by konvictz0007)
    By all definitions encapsulated within the religeon of Christianity, one must conclude homosexuality does not and can not exist in that particular religeon.

    Christians cannot be homosexual, therefore a homosexual priest cannot exist by Christianity axioms.
    Non-practicing homosexuals are accepted into the Christian cadre, iirc
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    (Original post by konvictz0007)
    By all definitions encapsulated within the religeon of Christianity, one must conclude homosexuality does not and can not exist in that particular religeon.

    Christians cannot be homosexual, therefore a homosexual priest cannot exist by Christianity axioms.
    I'm just a Gay Bish'. Looking for sex with other Gay Bish's.
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    (Original post by konvictz0007)
    By all definitions encapsulated within the religeon of Christianity, one must conclude homosexuality does not and can not exist in that particular religeon.

    Christians cannot be homosexual, therefore a homosexual priest cannot exist by Christianity axioms.
    the bible does speak against men sleeping with men (important distinction, it doesnt say anything about love/relationships, just the act)

    however it also speaks out against:

    Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)

    Don't cut your hair nor shave. (Leviticus 19:27)

    tatoos - leviticus (19:28)

    Wearing gold - (timothy 2:9)

    Shellfish - (leviticus 11:10)

    Eating pork/bacon (leviticus 11:7-8)


    etc. etc.



    anyway.. point being the bible bans ALOT of things... most sensible modern christians choose to live by the main messages of love/kindness/living a 'moral' life.. etc. etc.

    Rather then take the word of the bible litterally - and follow it down to the letter

    (which would be illigal anyway.. as alot of the things the bible calls for, are against the law these days, stoning of groups, murdering of spouses/daughters for various acts..etc..)

    -- so yes, by the modern understanding of what a 'christian is' (someone who follows the message of christianity, but not to the letter of the bible)

    it is possible to be christian and gay..
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    The Church of England has decided that it will be prepared to choose gay men who are living a celebate life as bishops. As vicars have been ordained thus, for example the former member of the Communards, Richard Coles, it seems consistent to accept them as bishops.

    As priests in the Catholic Church are celebate (with some exceptions largely married men who moved from the CofE) it is entirely possible that there are bishops who are homosexual in orientation, even though they may never have expressed this to anyone.
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    The bible does not provide alternative definitions for homosexuality, nor does it claim that it is non-christian. So there is no reason to say that a christian cannot be gay.
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    So you are saying christians only think of the bible as a basic guide book?

    I thought the idea was a christian follows the bible 'religiously'?...
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    It's no more contradictory than a shellfish eating bishop or a bishop that wears clothes made of different fibers.
    If people seriously followed the teachings of the Bible to the letter then we would also be participating in practices such as stoning women who do not bleed after sex on their wedding night and executing women who do not scream for help whilst being raped.
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    (Original post by konvictz0007)
    So you are saying christians only think of the bible as a basic guide book?

    I thought the idea was a christian follows the bible 'religiously'?...
    Not at all. The Bible is a combined set of books - the first half of which is about a relatively primitive people striving to understand their relationship with God, the second relating to multiple viewpoints on the coming of Jesus. Some are accounts, some are letters about how it is felt early churches should organise themselves and so on.

    Some is a product of its time, some is literal accounts of events, some are figurative explanations of concepts, some parts are clearly written as poetry. I'm not sure why you'd think Christians would have to follow it in such a way.

    The Bible presumes to set out some moral lessons and explains the laws (actual or aspirational) of a primitive people in the Middle East. Once again, many of these are primarily of historical interest. Human beings have an evolving understanding of God and his nature, we need not rely on the views of people thousands of years ago.

    "Biblical literalists" are a relatively modern thing and entirely miss the point of their faith.

    On the subject of gay bishops, there is not a single thing to suggest homosexual inclination is sinful. Even the Roman Catholic church states that it is fine and that homosexuals should be treated respectfully and with kindness. Only gay sexual contact should be discouraged. Celibate gay priests, bishops and all that should really be no problem at all for Christians of any denomination, irregardless of their views on taking it up the old wrong'un - an issue which is, in itself, morally disputed.
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    (Original post by XxelliexX)
    It's no more contradictory than a shellfish eating bishop or a bishop that wears clothes made of different fibers.
    If people seriously followed the teachings of the Bible to the letter then we would also be participating in practices such as stoning women who do not bleed after sex on their wedding night and executing women who do not scream for help whilst being raped.
    Sensible policies for a happier Britain.
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    (Original post by konvictz0007)
    By all definitions encapsulated within the religeon of Christianity, one must conclude homosexuality does not and can not exist in that particular religeon.

    Christians cannot be homosexual, therefore a homosexual priest cannot exist by Christianity axioms.
    Usually religions only define actions as right and wrong, not desires.
 
 
 
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