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    Kevin Prince Boateng says he'd be prepared to abandon a competitive tie if he was racially abused again but I don't see why KPB should be able to single handedly call off a fixture meaning thousands have wasted their time and money

    Fair enough the Spurs-Bolton tie was called off because a player's heart failed (serious business) but for some yob shouting expletives to lead the captain and his team to abandon the tie is quite frankly disgraceful and in nobody's interests. Fortunately KPB is a millionaire but not everone can afford to write off travel costs and such.

    Does he not realsie that fans are punished retrospectively for abuse.
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    It's more about sending a message


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    (Original post by Fusion)
    Does he not realsie that fans are punished retrospectively for abuse.
    Not always - some places are pretty backward in terms of racism, sadly.
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    Good on him I say :chaplin:
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    If enough players do this, it'll get through to even the thickest of fans.
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    (Original post by Fusion)
    Kevin Prince Boateng says he'd be prepared to abandon a competitive tie if he was racially abused again but I don't see why KPB should be able to single handedly call off a fixture meaning thousands have wasted their time and money

    Fair enough the Spurs-Bolton tie was called off because a player's heart failed (serious business) but for some yob shouting expletives to lead the captain and his team to abandon the tie is quite frankly disgraceful and in nobody's interests. Fortunately KPB is a millionaire but not everone can afford to write off travel costs and such.

    Does he not realsie that fans are punished retrospectively for abuse.
    I'm sure if you were being racially abused, wasting the fans money would be the least of your concerns. Its hardly ''disgraceful'' to walk off when subject to that level of abuse. He had every right to do what he did, and fair play to his team for backing him up.

    Besides the ''punishments'' handed out for racism are pathetic, if they're even issued at all. Russia and Spain were fined a total of 40k for racism at Euro 2012, whereas Nicklas Bendtner was fined £80k for showing a pair of branded underpants. UEFA do not give a single **** and that won't change unless it happens in a high profile game eg. Champions League final.
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    (Original post by sr90)
    I'm sure if you were being racially abused, wasting the fans money would be the least of your concerns. Its hardly ''disgraceful'' to walk off when subject to that level of abuse. He had every right to do what he did, and fair play to his team for backing him up.
    That's not the point - so a player/team are allowed to cancel a fixture because of abuse with no reprucussions? That sets a dangerous precedent which is open to abuse - final day of the season club looking like they will be relegated so the captain claims he was racially abused and the team walk off. The tie is played again when they have injured players returning etc
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    Is a player/team able to cancel a fixture over mum insults?

    Where does this end.
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    I know where you're coming from, but im sure a player can't just randomly make up a statement that he was racially abused without either a) evidence from the officials match report or b)a full blown investigation by the police.

    In the strictest of sense, you're right, players shouldn't be allowed to walk off and abandon a game.

    However, some things need standing up against, and if there is genuine, wide-spread racism going on, i'm all for it (the walking off, not the racism )
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    (Original post by Fusion)
    Kevin Prince Boateng says he'd be prepared to abandon a competitive tie if he was racially abused again but I don't see why KPB should be able to single handedly call off a fixture meaning thousands have wasted their time and money

    Fair enough the Spurs-Bolton tie was called off because a player's heart failed (serious business) but for some yob shouting expletives to lead the captain and his team to abandon the tie is quite frankly disgraceful and in nobody's interests. Fortunately KPB is a millionaire but not everone can afford to write off travel costs and such.

    Does he not realsie that fans are punished retrospectively for abuse.
    One player being racially abused vs. thousands of people losing money?

    Would you suggest the player just walk off the pitch on his own because he's causing tension amongst certain parts of the crowd? It shouldn't be a case of him having to go off for the game to be peaceful and resume again. It's his right to stay on that pitch. Surely you want to be on the side of right? You can argue that the non-offending fans have a right to watch a match they paid for, but it's hard to see how their rights are a greater infringement than that of Boateng's.
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    It doesn't matter how much you're getting paid, no-one should have to put up with being racially abused in the workplace. As for the fans, well those who are racially abusing him don't really matter and as for those that aren't I'm sure they have enough brain power to understand why he's done it. Plus, until players start showing that they won't put up with it by doing this UEFA and FIFA aren't going to do anything because it's not costing them money, and that's all they really care about these days.
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    Just because they earn a lot doesn't mean they should put up with abuse. Why fans feel the need to abuse the players/referee/stadium staff/other fans, ill never know.
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    (Original post by Fusion)
    Is a player/team able to cancel a fixture over mum insults?

    Where does this end.
    Well abusing a guy because of his personal life and abusing a guy because of his sexuality/colour are totally different things. He can't make a choice over these things and he shouldn't have to put up with zealous bigots while he's playing football.

    Should a guy continue working and just suck it up if he's being repeatedly racially abused by fellow workers? **** that he's going to stop working and take the case to court.

    It's a message. At least now it's brought through a message, that it's not ok. It's better than a guy making a racist insult and being allowed to play for his country due to making up a farcical court case. Then after the country flop in the tournament they punish him similar to the way they punished another guy who wasn't from the country.


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    That's not the point - so a player/team are allowed to cancel a fixture because of abuse with no reprucussions? That sets a dangerous precedent which is open to abuse - final day of the season club looking like they will be relegated so the captain claims he was racially abused and the team walk off. The tie is played again when they have injured players returning etc
    Well then you punish players for making false allegations and stopping the match after it's been investigated, it's as simple as that. They investigate the situation and do retrospective bans for it.

    It's not the case where you complain after the match and it's player-player as that can easily be resolved and the guy wouldn't do it again after they've been fined and banned. When it's a case of the fans, they'll keep on doing it.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    Well abusing a guy because of his personal life and abusing a guy because of his sexuality/colour are totally different things. He can't make a choice over these things and he shouldn't have to put up with zealous bigots while he's playing football.

    Should a guy continue working and just suck it up if he's being repeatedly racially abused by fellow workers? **** that he's going to stop working and take the case to court.

    It's a message. At least now it's brought through a message, that it's not ok. It's better than a guy making a racist insult and being allowed to play for his country due to making up a farcical court case. Then after the country flop in the tournament they punish him similar to the way they punished another guy who wasn't from the country.




    Well then you punish players for making false allegations and stopping the match after it's been investigated, it's as simple as that. They investigate the situation and do retrospective bans for it.

    It's not the case where you complain after the match and it's player-player as that can easily be resolved and the guy wouldn't do it again after they've been fined and banned. When it's a case of the fans, they'll keep on doing it.
    what if the guy's getting abused over his girlfriend or mum dying in a car crash? thats not something he had a choice over
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    I think it should be down to the referee, but clearly if he what he said is true, that he told the referee 3 times and the reply was "Don't worry" then I can't blame him for walking off, the referee should be suspended and face punishment for not doing his job.
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    (Original post by Jack93o)
    what if the guy's getting abused over his girlfriend or mum dying in a car crash? thats not something he had a choice over
    Obviously there are different degrees of abuse and that is his personal life anyway... It's more the fact that hooliganism has to be stamped out. I think that racist abuse, homophobia are so common among ultras that it needs to be stamped out. It's been going on for years. Tougher sanctions will stamp it out. A message needs to be sent. I like italys stance on it in the euros, how they said they'd walk off the field if balotelli felt he was being abused. It shows togetherness as well.

    Like I said. In certain cases the player should be punished if they're fabricating or taking it out of proportion. If you have large sections of a crowd making racist chants/throwing bananas and making antisemetic/homophobic chants towards players then they should have a right to leave.

    A musician can walk out of a concert if they're being abused racially. Why can't a footballer, why do they have to stick up to **** like this. They're human.
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    (Original post by Fusion)
    Is a player/team able to cancel a fixture over mum insults?

    Where does this end.
    That's more of a personal insult though, I'm not saying it's ok though;

    Racism and homophobia are insults and discrimination against all of the related people eg. black people or gays, which simply causes more prejudice and hate. And it is totally wrong, full stop. And in the places like Italy, Spain, Eastern Europe it is not usually one person. Fans like these get banned (eg the empty stadiums in Italy for periods) and they don't learn. It's not just because of hurting players; it's harbouring and bringing up racism in a community, into younger generations too.

    "but for some yob shouting expletives to lead the captain and his team to abandon the tie is quite frankly disgraceful and in nobody's interests"

    no it's not disgraceful in any way and is in the interest of KPB and black players in the game.

    fans will have to learn the hard way, because they haven't learnt so far. travel costs are irrelevant really. don't go and see them if you can't afford it. think how sad the poor qpr fans must be seeing much of their team not bother every week. don't need to refund them though.
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    Surely if you walk off the field it's victory for the racists
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    (Original post by Rock Fan)
    Surely if you walk off the field it's victory for the racists
    not really. Its a disgrace for the hosting club
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    (Original post by sevchenko)
    not really. Its a disgrace for the hosting club
    Well it does make the club look bad but every club has it's idiots unfortunately.
 
 
 
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