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    (Original post by truthisevil)
    I agree that porn is the main problem, but my advice is to stay well away from masturbation at least for now. If you were to masturbate, all you'd care about in that moment is sex and it would be likely that you'd end up watching porn after all.

    Also, get out of bed and start your routine as soon as you wake up; at least in my experience, lie-ins lead to failure!

    (Original post by miser)
    Part of success is reducing opportunities for failure. Use a technology like K9 to filter your internet or delete your porn stash.

    What works for me best though is to know clearly exactly why the challenge is important to me, so that when I am in times of need, I can remember those reasons to help me restore clarity. Temptation is just temptation - it's always you who chooses whether to give in, or whether to punch life in the face and say, "not today!"
    Cheers guys.
    The challenge is important to me as I believe porn has destroyed that natural feeling of "intimacy" when you're with a girl. It completely takes over your mind and your perceptions.

    Unfortunately I have had some embarrassing failures (if you know what I mean) in the last year or so, and I put it down to porn and its effect.

    Nothing positive comes from it.
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    (Original post by CountMancula)
    Cheers guys.
    The challenge is important to me as I believe porn has destroyed that natural feeling of "intimacy" when you're with a girl. It completely takes over your mind and your perceptions.

    Unfortunately I have had some embarrassing failures (if you know what I mean) in the last year or so, and I put it down to porn and its effect.

    Nothing positive comes from it.
    Then glad to have you aboard. Lots of support available here so so long as you want to change, there's no reason why you can't do it.
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    (Original post by tooosh)
    Flatline during abstinence is the single defining characteristic of porn addiction... soz bro. (given no depression etc)

    People who just abstain for the hell of it end up wanting to **** the sky after a few weeks. Addicts flatline.

    Interesting thread.
    Not in though.
    Haha well, even if that's the case, it only lasted a couple of days. Day 14 now, and these past couple of days I've been..um...roaring, shall we say

    I doubt I was addicted though, I hardly watched/got off to porn. I prefer imagination my self. Much more fun
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    today is the 3 week mark, and what better way to mark the milestone than by 'releasing' in my sleep. sleeping naked probably isn't a good option for any of us.
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    (Original post by Fenrirs_space)
    I doubt I was addicted though, I hardly watched/got off to porn. I prefer imagination my self. Much more fun
    Same, though the ratio for me was more like 50/50. Imagination is always more personal.
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    (Original post by Cephalus)
    SherlockH, you need to chill. I think you should step away from your computer :zomg:

    Yes you did point that out, then I recall some people of the thread turning on you :gasp:

    You have a tendency (like me I admit) to insult people you don't know very well (as shown by your treatment of Miser in this thread, who didn't really do anything wrong).
    I'm perfectly fine; I'm sat in my armchair with a cuppa, relaxing after some gruelling history revision. I'm not exactly wailing with despair at your pitiful comments, so do not flatter yourself.

    I also remember that one person who criticised me for mentioning your dire music tastes, which I admit should not be a judge of character, though I must admit it certainly adds a side dish of dislike to you. Again, do not flatter yourself to the people's choice. Your past history confirms that you are not.

    I'm critical of the things you say on this forum. I do not judge anything of what I say on which I do not know about you, unless everything you say is absolute lies, in which case it is not the fault of my lack of judgement. This cannot be said for you (to which you admit), however, who scorn at me based on what you misread. Miser's only fault was listening to you, which I perfectly excuse, as it is you who is the root of the problem. He has also apologised pleasantly, which I appreciate even though it was not needed.
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    (Original post by SherlockH)
    I'm perfectly fine; I'm sat in my armchair with a cuppa, relaxing after some gruelling history revision. I'm not exactly wailing with despair at your pitiful comments, so do not flatter yourself.

    I also remember that one person who criticised me for mentioning your dire music tastes, which I admit should not be a judge of character, though I must admit it certainly adds a side dish of dislike to you. Again, do not flatter yourself to the people's choice. Your past history confirms that you are not.

    I'm critical of the things you say on this forums. I do not judge an anything of what I say on which I do not know about you, unless everything you say is absolute lies, in which case it is not the fault of my lack of judgement. This cannot be said for you (to which you admit), however, who scorn at me based on what you misread. Miser's only fault was listening to you, which I perfectly excuse, as it is you who is the root of the problem. He has also apologised pleasantly, which I appreciate even though it was not needed.
    tl;dr


    chill out.
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    (Original post by Cephalus)
    tl;dr


    chill out.
    Ha, I think that concludes it
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    jeeez. 6 days in. last night was the toughest challenge ever. i've had a 4 day weekend and haven't been up to much so i see this as the hardest bit to get through. but last night my balls literally ached, i just needed to fap so bad lol.

    edit - still going strong tho :cool:
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    (Original post by martin jol)
    jeeez. 6 days in. last night was the toughest challenge ever. i've had a 4 day weekend and haven't been up to much so i see this as the hardest bit to get through. but last night my balls literally ached, i just needed to fap so bad lol.

    edit - still going strong tho :cool:
    Good job resisting bro. Calmer waters await.
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    I haven't fapped in 5 days and that is about to end in a few minutes, I thought I should let you guys know.

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    Been following the tread for a while now , and I lasted like a week , after like the third day I stopped getting the urge and then all of a sudden on the 7th I lost motivation since i was so bored... My streak ended yesterday , and right now im struggling to see the point again im roasting.

    In the week that I abstained though I did feel like I could hold a conversation longer and was less awkward , but maybe that's just a delusion .

    Do any of you feel like Nofap has made a direct impact on your life ? e.g gathered the courage to be more social , finally talked to that girl you obsess over , find yourself less worn out .

    Ok so after reading through some of the pages here its evident people have felt the changes and I also want to feel them , I need to sort my life out . Im going to have one last one , then count me in .
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    (Original post by Jaegon Targaryen)
    Been following the tread for a while now , and I lasted like a week , after like the third day I stopped getting the urge and then all of a sudden on the 7th I lost motivation since i was so bored... My streak ended yesterday , and right now im struggling to see the point again im roasting.

    In the week that I abstained though I did feel like I could hold a conversation longer and was less awkward , but maybe that's just a delusion .

    Do any of you feel like Nofap has made a direct impact on your life ? e.g gathered the courage to be more social , finally talked to that girl you obsess over , find yourself less worn out .
    When you find yourself being bored, you need to have a list prepared of stuff you can go to to do when you are bored.


    This is about my 9th day, (3rd day on here) and I'm doing perfectly fine
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    (Original post by Jaegon Targaryen)
    Do any of you feel like Nofap has made a direct impact on your life ? e.g gathered the courage to be more social , finally talked to that girl you obsess over , find yourself less worn out .
    I haven't felt many changes personally, but I wrote the following in my diary earlier:
    I don't think I've experienced anything directly related to it [fapstinence], but maybe it's acted as some kind of flag waving that says, "if you can do this, you can do anything."
    That more or less sums it up for me. I personally see it as a testament to what I am capable of. The motivation I feel for fapstinence seems to translate well into other pursuits in my life, so I am pleased with it.
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    I've noticed that I seem to notice that my conversational skills are better now.

    However, how much of it is due to not fapping, and how much of it is placebo, is hard to tell. I'll explain:

    Before, I used to talk, and afterwards I would worry about the things I said (i.e. wondering if I accidently said something wrong/how I could have gone about it better etc).

    Now after I talk, I think about how well the conversation went, or I even don't think about it at all.

    At first, I thought, hey, perhaps not fapping does have an affect then. Now I've given it time to think over though, I think it's a little more subconscious than that. I started off with the belief that not fapping would/was having an effect, so I noticed the good parts of my conversations more than the bad parts, and correlated them to not fapping. Giving it more thought though, and thought back to what I was like last year, I've realised that my conversations haven't changed all that much, but my ability to converse has improved a lot (as in, I find it easier to approach people and so on), as I've been conversing more.

    So, rather, I think the main change is that my own perception on my conversational skills has change, making me more confident in my abilities (and thus, leading to me being more confident during conversations etc), and so cue a spiral effect (more confident -> talk more -> even more confident from that -> talk even more...).

    If that makes sense?
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    (Original post by Fenrirs_space)
    I've noticed that I seem to notice that my conversational skills are better now.

    However, how much of it is due to not fapping, and how much of it is placebo, is hard to tell. I'll explain:

    Before, I used to talk, and afterwards I would worry about the things I said (i.e. wondering if I accidently said something wrong/how I could have gone about it better etc).

    Now after I talk, I think about how well the conversation went, or I even don't think about it at all.

    At first, I thought, hey, perhaps not fapping does have an affect then. Now I've given it time to think over though, I think it's a little more subconscious than that. I started off with the belief that not fapping would/was having an effect, so I noticed the good parts of my conversations more than the bad parts, and correlated them to not fapping. Giving it more thought though, and thought back to what I was like last year, I've realised that my conversations haven't changed all that much, but my ability to converse has improved a lot (as in, I find it easier to approach people and so on), as I've been conversing more.

    So, rather, I think the main change is that my own perception on my conversational skills has change, making me more confident in my abilities (and thus, leading to me being more confident during conversations etc), and so cue a spiral effect (more confident -> talk more -> even more confident from that -> talk even more...).

    If that makes sense?
    The idea that not masturbating can improve your conversational skills is absolutely ridiculous.
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    (Original post by Fenrirs_space)
    Haha well, even if that's the case, it only lasted a couple of days. Day 14 now, and these past couple of days I've been..um...roaring, shall we say

    I doubt I was addicted though, I hardly watched/got off to porn. I prefer imagination my self. Much more fun
    Addicted is a strong word and doesn't always apply I guess. What I meant was that there were plastic physical changes which you have (begun to) reverse.

    You just changed your brain. Pat yourself on the back

    Edit: social anxiety is a common symptom of porn use as a function of hypofrontality and general hormone imbalance. The exact mechanism is unknown (for both porn's effect and social anxiety in general I believe!) but the anecdotal evidence is enough in quantity to support your theory. But the problem was porn, not masturbating. In a way it improved your conversational skills... but not really indirectly.
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    (Original post by Tuerin)
    The idea that not masturbating can improve your conversational skills is absolutely ridiculous.
    I know, that's what I'm getting at. I don't believe that not masturbating itself has much effect on conversation skills. However, the ensuing confidence that comes from it does.

    Where that confidence comes from is up to debate. From what I've observed so far, a part of it could be possibly from testosterone spikes. However I think the most of it could be from either the belief that no masturbating increases confidence (belief in something can hugely change someones behavior after all), or the confidence that comes from developing your willpower (dependent on how much this matters to the individual of course).

    You could replace not masturbating with anything really. Be it eating healthier, exercising, drawing, anything. As long as you have the belief that it will change you in some way, that's all that should be needed. Not masturbating is just a good choice as it 'is' a challenging task to undertake, and so is easy to attach beliefs to (especially with the lack of research in to the subject)..

    This is my take on it so far anyway. I'll still be going through with the challenge because I still want to see how far I can push my willpower (the reason why I started it in the first place).
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    (Original post by Fenrirs_space)
    I know, that's what I'm getting at. I don't believe that not masturbating itself has much effect on conversation skills. However, the ensuing confidence that comes from it does.

    Where that confidence comes from is up to debate. From what I've observed so far, a part of it could be possibly from testosterone spikes. However I think the most of it could be from either the belief that no masturbating increases confidence (belief in something can hugely change someones behavior after all), or the confidence that comes from developing your willpower (dependent on how much this matters to the individual of course).

    You could replace not masturbating with anything really. Be it eating healthier, exercising, drawing, anything. As long as you have the belief that it will change you in some way, that's all that should be needed. Not masturbating is just a good choice as it 'is' a challenging task to undertake, and so is easy to attach beliefs to (especially with the lack of research in to the subject)..

    This is my take on it so far anyway. I'll still be going through with the challenge because I still want to see how far I can push my willpower (the reason why I started it in the first place).
    All very tenuous
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    (Original post by Tuerin)
    All very tenuous
    So you don't think having belief in something can changes someones behaviors and outlook on life?

    Because there are a lot of people in the world who will disagree with you :rolleyes:
 
 
 
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