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    (Original post by PreciousStripes)
    I know you didn't say that. Don't worry. It's just that when you make these comparisions you don't ever have the MINDSET to do these things so you shouldn't compare yourself to the 'foreigners' who do commit such acts.

    Um, I'm not sure which immigrants you've met who refer to themselves as 'English' or 'British' those who usually do so... Usually ARE 'British'... If they were born here anyway. Even if they do, why would it affect you in any way, whatsoever?
    define British please.
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    (Original post by Aramiss18)
    It isn't harmful at all. The argument is that if a group of white people wanted the same would it be allowed? Also, is further segregation based on race the way forward in a multiracial society? Seems to focus on differences, not similarity.
    Well...the thinking is that White people already have their view heard through the main groups that exist since they form a significant proportion.

    Just look at the groups that he named. Lawyers, Engineers and Architects. All of those groups are going to be mainly white and theoretically should have their viewpoints expressed.

    Now, whether organisations like the society of black lawyers are helpful or useful is another discussion but I don't really have a problem with a basic premise.
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    (Original post by MissCellaneous94)
    It's SO wrong that we should ever be the minority in our OWN country.

    Now don't get me wrong, I've plenty of friends from ethnic minorities, a lot of whom are decent, respectable people, far better than the white trash you tend to see on Jeremy Kyle.

    However, I totally agree with others on here who've said that people from places like Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Poland and other nationalities wouldn't put up with what we have to. We're way too f***ing soft. FACT.

    Also it really p***** me off when people from ethnic minorities claim to be British/English. You're not. Don't you think that takes away the native's identity/offends them? Especially when some ethnic minorities who claim to be British/English partake in acts as disgusting/inhumane as 'honour killings'. Get ready to pull the racist card but actual British/English people have British/English ie WHITE ancestors. Sorry but that's how it is. Like it or lump it. If I went to live in their countries, I wouldn't get away with half the things they get away with here, and I'd probably be killed if I said I was Pakistani/Indian etc.

    For f***'s sake, when will it end? I'm so sick of this overload of political correctness, multiculturalism bull****. It doesn't work. To a certain extent, yes, but not when it dictates absolutely everything.

    If people come here to do what they want, eg drink, smoke, right to free speech etc then they should think again. Instead of running to us and claiming asylum/sponging off us, they should bloody well stand up and do something to change their own screwed up, corrupt countries. They should stop having so many kids as well, isn't two enough?? Maybe then they might have more money.

    I've most likely come across as a racist, narrow-minded bigot, which I'm not at all, but hey, when you feel as strongly about something as I do about this you're labelled as such because strong opinions aren't allowed. It's damn hard to be as reasonable/passive as people expect you to be. It's that kind of attitude that's gotten us in this mess in the first place. I'm seriously considering a career in politics, put a cap on immigration once and for bloody all.

    Rant/example of common sense over. So much more I could add but I doubt it'd be fully appreciated here. Don't mean to offend anyone but surely someone must see where I'm coming from. No?
    So you have absolutely no problem with ethnic minorities, just first generation immigrants, by that logic?

    In fact what you are doing is referring to people who may be 5th or even 6th generation minorities to "those who claim asylum off us"...who exactly is "us"? Do you mean people who have been part of British culture for over 100 years (Asians, Blacks etc), or when you say "us", do you mean only people who have white skin?

    If you are born here you are British. Just because someone doesn't descend from some anglo saxon viking or w/e doesn't mean they aren't British. They are just as English as you are
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    (Original post by davidoff12)
    I get where you are coming from.

    I am Jewish and from Israel. Israel is considered a Jewish country and the only immigrants allowed into Israel are Jewish immigrants. We are preserving our culture and keeping Israel pure.

    If I were a white indigenous Englishman I would probably feel the same way as you. UK is a laughing stock for radical islamists, they have taken over London and all major cities.

    As soon as i finish my education im off to Israel for good where our people are preserved jealous? I bet you are.
    dat irony :rofl3:

    if we did operate like israel, by keeping the country purely white english, do you think a jew like yourself would have a place here to study and live?


    not that I don't have sympathies with OP, but your post was hilarious
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    (Original post by Aramiss18)

    Can I ask you why a "mixture" of races is good/better? I'm not saying it's bad, but why good/better? Same with modernisation. I'm just trying to understand these claims I hear all the time.
    Well, people are moving countries all the time and are bound to encounter nationalities, religions and cultures they've never met or heard off and I think it's good that people are educated in other people's cultures and rituals. Also, when you think of the British Empires history, it's typically of white aristocrats taking this and taking over that. But we're in the 21st century now and soon there won't be only caucasian figures of history in years to come. That's all. Anything else? ^_-

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    (Original post by deehee)
    define British please.
    Ummm, I'm sure it's in the dictionary but someone who was born in the UK or who's parents or related to someone who is... Or the other territorities... I'm sure, why?

    Oh and of course owns a passport. Or something like that. Never really thought of it.
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    (Original post by PreciousStripes)
    To Q: Wow, obviously you haven't been to Welling, Bexleyheath, Crayford, Barnehurst or ANYWHERE in the DA area (South East London/Kent - Still London really) these areas are about 99% white! Anyway, it's sad that you feel that way because I enjoy socialising with people of all different cultures and nationalities.

    Hello, just an observation, you call the actions inhumane and stuff so why WOULD you go to Pakistan or India and commit the acts you call disgusting? It doesn't make sense really, obviously you find it cruel so you would never even THINK of doing such things.
    yeah but when people think of london, those places you mentioned aren't the first things that spring to mind
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    (Original post by Aramiss18)
    Considering every time I go to a multicultural/racial area I see groups clearly divided by race and economic status I don't see what is peculiar about the OP wanting to meet people of his own race and economic status. It seems human nature to me.

    Now I've just read a post by someone (on a about the 4th page) and they describe a multiracial area as "exciting" and the 99% white area they lived in being "boring". Can someone actually give me a substantive argument on how it is more "exciting"? How does race play a part in that?

    I personally don't have a problem with immigrants (I'm not saying every non-white is an immigrant here, but speaking facing the future) based on race (I'm far more interested in skills, or rather the clear lack of in many cases, and ability to speak even the most basic English) but likewise I don't see how it's a positive either. People, especially politicians, keep making these nebulous intangible claims about having a multiracial society being a good thing and I just don't see it. So please, someone present to me an actual argument on why we need non-white people in order for an area to be exciting/cultural/buzzword?

    I would like again to reiterate, I'm not racist I just want to understand the argument. If decisions based on race are wrong (racism) and race doesn't matter- culture and personality do- why is it OK to actively argue for the presence of other races? Why must we have a mixture of races?

    EDIT: I'm just asking the pro-multiracial/cultural side to justify the claims that it improves society.
    yeah, that sounds reasonable to me
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    (Original post by Jack93o)
    yeah but when people think of london, those places you mentioned aren't the first things that spring to mind
    Yeah, I guess. But it is London and they haven't been 'taken' over! Not all hope is lost for those who dislike multi-culturalism! >.<
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    (Original post by deehee)
    define British please.
    tbh you get the same problem with trying to define other nationalities

    try defining 'american' for example, I bet you can't avoid wishy-washy vague terms just like when you hear politicians here trying to define 'britishness'
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    (Original post by PreciousStripes)
    Yeah, I guess. But it is London and they haven't been 'taken' over! Not all hope is lost for those who dislike multi-culturalism! >.<
    Actually those areas are very much on the outskirts of London, basically Kent. As the population of ethnic minorities increases in the capital, the white population seem to move to outer-London areas i.e. Essex, Kent etc.

    Therefore, that is the reason for those areas listed being predominantly white or "British" areas.

    To me, if you are born here you are British, though. And I have no care for any demographic ethnic/racial shifts of the population in London or any where else in the UK.

    And if by saying "not all hope is lost", you mean that there is still hope for the preservation of white people in specific areas in London, then I'm afraid yes, "hope is lost". Because eventually those areas will see a large increase in British ethnic minorities.

    It is because of such demographic shifts that certain parts of London such as Barking,which only up until a few decades ago was overwhelmed by a large white population. Racist biggoted groups like the BNP were constantly elected in Barking - but that it is now impossible for racist parties like the BNP to ever gain power in Barking again due to the overwhelming increase in ethnic minorities in the area

    Therefore, it could be said that an influx of ethnic minorities into predominantly white parts of London is a positive thing
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    (Original post by oj234)
    Actually those areas are very much on the outskirts of London, basically Kent. As the population of ethnic minorities increases in the capital, the white population seem to move to outer-London areas i.e. Essex, Kent etc.

    Therefore, that is the reason for those areas listed being predominantly white or "British" areas.

    To me, if you are born here you are British, though. And I have no care for any demographic ethnic/racial shifts of the population in London or any where else in the UK.

    And if by saying "not all hope is lost", you mean that there is still hope for the preservation of white people in specific areas in London, then I'm afraid yes, "hope is lost". Because eventually those areas will see a large increase in British ethnic minorities.

    It is because of such demographic shifts that certain parts of London such as Barking,which only a few decades ago was overwhelmed by a large white population. Racist biggoted groups like the BNP were constantly elected in Barking - but that it is now impossible for racist parties like the BNP to ever gain power in Barking again due to the overwhelming increase in ethnic minorities in the area

    Therefore, it could be said that an influx of ethnic minorities into predominantly white parts of London is a positive thing
    You've misinterpreted my point, I was being sarcastic. I don't live far from these areas and we consider ourselves to be Londoners, not from 'Kent' which is a different county and more countryside, I guess. All the boroughs around here are "London borough of Bexley, etc."

    If these areas do see a large influx of immigrants so be it! It's not my problem, actually, I agree! I love multi-culturalism. If only the situation was better [not recession, unemployment blah] would people stop complaining >_<
    ;D
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    (Original post by PreciousStripes)
    You've misinterpreted my point, I was being sarcastic. I don't live far from these areas and we consider ourselves to be Londoners, not from 'Kent' which is a different county and more countryside, I guess. All the boroughs around here are "London borough of Bexley, etc."

    If these areas do see a large influx of immigrants so be it! It's not my problem, actually, I agree! I love multi-culturalism. If only the situation was better [not recession, unemployment blah] would people stop complaining >_<
    ;D
    Yes, I agree with your last point. Racists tend to (subconsciously or not) use ethnic minorities as scapegoats for their own personal problems which they may be experiencing due to the recession/being lazy/other issues.

    When someone is happy, they think everyone else is happy and become nice, the opposite is true when they are unhappy i.e. angry.

    OP probably has some deep-rooted issues and feels the need to have a go at the aliens and immigrants in this country (i.e. 6th generation ethnic minorities whose grandfathers and great grandfathers risked their lives for this country fighting in the war) to make himself feel better/justifiable.

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    (Original post by oj234)
    Yes, I agree with your last point. Racists tend to (subconsciously or not) use ethnic minorities as scapegoats for their own personal problems which they may be experiencing due to the recession/being lazy/other issues.

    When someone is happy, they think everyone else is happy and become nice, the opposite is true when they are unhappy i.e. angry.

    OP probably has some deep-rooted issues and feels the need to have a go at the aliens and immigrants in this country (i.e. 6th generation ethnic minorities whose grandfathers and great grandfathers risked their lives for this country fighting in the war) to make himself feel better/justifiable.

    Yup, that's true. ALIENS xD.
    But that's how some people view them though. I find it upsetting that people can't value the diversity of our country. -.-


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    (Original post by Parx)
    Lol I've lived in the midlands. I've lived in the westcountry. I lived in Africa and America. So you don't know me or my background or social abilities or what I can or can not do. I've got friends now and I've had friends before. I've had many white friends in the past but that wasn't difficult as I lived in a majority white place. I also have a couple of FWB girlfriends on the side, both european. So don't assume that just cas I make this post I'm some nerd who just plays world of warcraft.
    So why don't you want to make non white friends? In confused its not like you can do things with white people that you can't do with non whites? I understand of they're foreign but I'm sure you can do what you want with British born non whites. I've got a group of white friends and a group of mostly British born Pakistani mates and I go to parties and stuff with my Pakistani mates just like I do with my white mates, I have an equally as good time with both groups so I don't see the problem?
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    This is why I hate Exeter. It's literally filled with people like the OP
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    OP people like you are a dying breed in London

    Hopefully if you have kids in the future they will marry and have children with an ethnic minority. Maybe then you would learn to appreciate everyone as English (not just white skinned people called Bob and Dave).
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    (Original post by oj234)
    Yes, I agree with your last point. Racists tend to (subconsciously or not) use ethnic minorities as scapegoats for their own personal problems which they may be experiencing due to the recession/being lazy/other issues.

    When someone is happy, they think everyone else is happy and become nice, the opposite is true when they are unhappy i.e. angry.

    OP probably has some deep-rooted issues and feels the need to have a go at the aliens and immigrants in this country (i.e. 6th generation ethnic minorities whose grandfathers and great grandfathers risked their lives for this country fighting in the war) to make himself feel better/justifiable.

    I love how you keep having a go at me in this thread. Touched a nerve?
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    (Original post by Theoneoranro)
    So why don't you want to make non white friends? In confused its not like you can do things with white people that you can't do with non whites? I understand of they're foreign but I'm sure you can do what you want with British born non whites. I've got a group of white friends and a group of mostly British born Pakistani mates and I go to parties and stuff with my Pakistani mates just like I do with my white mates, I have an equally as good time with both groups so I don't see the problem?
    I never said I don't want to make non white friends though did I? I said I want to meet more white english people.

    But going by what you said why can't black/asian people be friends with non black/asian people? You notice how they're friends with each other in London. Why can't white people not have a right to be friends with each other? Is that illegal??
 
 
 
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