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Isn't the diplomatic academy for austrians only? If you want to be an austrian diplomat, you have to be austrian. If you want to work for the UN in Vienna, you don't need a diplomatic academy. UN diplomats are fake diplomats so to speak.
Octavius85
Isn't the diplomatic academy for austrians only? If you want to be an austrian diplomat, you have to be austrian. If you want to work for the UN in Vienna, you don't need a diplomatic academy. UN diplomats are fake diplomats so to speak.
No actually they have several programs. One is, indeed, for Austrians only, but they also have a cool Master's Degree that anyone can apply for.
This certainly looks very interesting for someone looking to be a diplomat.
For anyone interested: http://www.da-vienna.ac.at/ViewPage.asp?Site=DAVIENNA&Lang=202
For anyone interested: http://www.da-vienna.ac.at/ViewPage.asp?Site=DAVIENNA&Lang=202
Yeah it looks really cool. Costs 7,500€ per year though..but you get to live in Vienna, which is one of the most pleasant and beautiful cities I know (was voted 3rd for quality of life in The Economist, after Sydney and Melbourne). And entry is competitive: 30 places every year for the masters
Octavius85
Isn't the diplomatic academy for austrians only? If you want to be an austrian diplomat, you have to be austrian. If you want to work for the UN in Vienna, you don't need a diplomatic academy. UN diplomats are fake diplomats so to speak.
my parents are diplomats at the UN and no they are not FAKE diplomats!bryan: You just need good qualifications, thats about it. My dad studied business and poltics and did a masters in Economics...and just sort of worked his way up. Frankly, if you want to work in the UN you just apply whenever they have free places...be it that you've studied Chemistry, engineering, etc. It doesn't matter, its all down to the CV..and an interview I think....but that doen't make you a diplomat...for that, Director's will recommend you to the board.
gigglybum my parents are diplomats at the UN and no they are not FAKE diplomats!
bryan: You just need good qualifications, thats about it. My dad studied business and poltics and did a masters in Economics...and just sort of worked his way up. Frankly, if you want to work in the UN you just apply whenever they have free places...be it that you've studied Chemistry, engineering, etc. It doesn't matter, its all down to the CV..and an interview I think....but that doen't make you a diplomat...for that, Director's will recommend you to the board.
my parents are diplomats at the UN and no they are not FAKE diplomats!bryan: You just need good qualifications, thats about it. My dad studied business and poltics and did a masters in Economics...and just sort of worked his way up. Frankly, if you want to work in the UN you just apply whenever they have free places...be it that you've studied Chemistry, engineering, etc. It doesn't matter, its all down to the CV..and an interview I think....but that doen't make you a diplomat...for that, Director's will recommend you to the board.
Both my parents were 6 years during diplomats at the bilateral embacy in vienna.
UN diplomats who are not apointed by a national government are FAKE diplomats. They have the diplomatic privileges but they are considered by people in the known as simple UN employees.
REAL diplomats are the ones who have to go through the very selective national exam and represent their government. It's not about doing some interview and being appointed.
Octavius85
Both my parents were 6 years during diplomats at the bilateral embacy in vienna.
UN diplomats who are not apointed by a national government are FAKE diplomats. They have the diplomatic privileges but they are considered by people in the known as simple UN employees.
REAL diplomats are the ones who have to go through the very selective national exam and represent their government. It's not about doing some interview and being appointed.
UN diplomats who are not apointed by a national government are FAKE diplomats. They have the diplomatic privileges but they are considered by people in the known as simple UN employees.
REAL diplomats are the ones who have to go through the very selective national exam and represent their government. It's not about doing some interview and being appointed.
So what exactly do these "fake" UN diplomats do then, if they don't represent countries?
Knogle
So what exactly do these "fake" UN diplomats do then, if they don't represent countries?
They are UN employees. Or do you think Kofi Annan represents a country? And Pascal Lamy, do you think he represents France at the WTO? That was a flatering example for UN diplomats, most have little prestive. Bureaucratic good people, that's all.
Octavius85
They are UN employees. Or do you think Kofi Annan represents a country? And Pascal Lamy, do you think he represents France at the WTO? That was a flatering example for UN diplomats, most have little prestive. Bureaucratic good people, that's all.
Well okay, I wouldn't call them "diplomats" for starters.
I rechecked the Oxford dictionary definition and, indeed, it applies the position of "diplomat" to those people who represent a country.
But then, what about those who represent NGOs, such as WHO or UNESCO, or other organizations e.g. even the ICC, at the UN?
I think that "international relations" is somehow growing to a broader definition than the representation of one's "country"...
But then, what about those who represent NGOs, such as WHO or UNESCO, or other organizations e.g. even the ICC, at the UN?
I think that "international relations" is somehow growing to a broader definition than the representation of one's "country"...
Knogle
So what exactly do these "fake" UN diplomats do then, if they don't represent countries?
They are just bureaucrats with an attitude.
If you need any further information about the diplomatic academy, then PM me. I am from Vienna and my school is attached to the diplomatic academy. I will be studying in England but I want to maybe go to the diplomatic academy afterwards. It's so great and the staff is amazing. But the entry requirements are really strict. At least two foreign languages (for austrians) don't know for internationals but I can check...
Any specifc questions?
Edit: this is what I think you want to do: http://www.da-vienna.ac.at/ViewPage.asp?Site=DAVIENNA&Lang=202 . right? the link is in correct. i mean the Master of Advanced International studies program
Any specifc questions?
Edit: this is what I think you want to do: http://www.da-vienna.ac.at/ViewPage.asp?Site=DAVIENNA&Lang=202 . right? the link is in correct. i mean the Master of Advanced International studies program
hi, i'm a graduate of the MAIS program at the DA. it was an incredible experience all round. i'm not austrian, but did enter speaking english and german very well, and french at a basic level. i'd say there's a focus on economics and law, but also several offerings in history, political science, etc. it's an excellent place to network, as vienna has more diplomats (fake or otherwise!!) than any other city in the world (look it up!). you'd have access to the UN, OSCE, and many international organizations, plus all the embassies and various NGOs. still, not every graduate becomes a diplomat; many go into business & finance. i can say that most of my former colleagues have solid, engaging careers. there are just a couple dozen seats, so it is competitive. something like 1 in 7
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