Is Scottish independence a 'good or bad' thing?

We will have an armed forces, it already been stated that an army, a navy, and an airforce will be created using the bases that currently exist, and the personnel that currently work in them.

Your really amusing me, please keep posting outrageous replies!

Oh yes I forgot: We may not recognise your university degrees. The days of all our rahs going to St Andrews may be over.

You do not have any people working for you in defence at all. The armed forces are UK assets sworn to the Crown. You go independent we pull them out.

The Bank of England is, and will be our central bank. The same things happens in the Eurozone, although not going well at the moment generally speaking the majority of countries cope well with this arrangement.

One thing fueling independence is your attitude. Scotland is not a region, but a country, and we expect to be treated as such...comparing Scotland to the isle of man is insulting.

I don't understand the arguments for independence. If it's an essential partner with what would be the rest of the UK and they want to set up a currency zone then why not keep it as it is now? It's just some power hungry nutter Salmond who'll make no difference and I fail to see how it will make a difference.

Common sense? Please can someone help me with this guy, he is making TSR look really foolish,

Oh yes I forgot: We may not recognise your university degrees. The days of all our rahs going to St Andrews may be over.

You are LEAVING the UK, it is not dissolving, therefore you have no right to the UK's assets.

Completely wrong morally.

Our money has helped fund this country, we deserve what we pay for.

The no campaign already agree with this, your on your own.

We want:

To control our own tax
To not have weapons of mass destruction
To get governments that Scotland votes for (only 16% voted tory)
To scrap the bedroom tax
To stop privatization of the NHS
To try and correct privatization of the royal mail
To ensure free tuition fees is written into a constitution
To fight for our fishing industry in Europe
To keep oil revenue in an oil fund
To choose not to go to war
To Stay in the EU (Camerson has promised a referendum)
To control welfare
To Rid ourselves of the House of Lords
To Rid ourselves of Tory rule forever

Thats a few of many.

I'm very sorry Jock, but his arguments are entirely relevant and rational. Your tartan army will not come to your rescue, because frankly, if I were a Yes Scot, I would be ashamed to be allied with you.
You discredit yourself, your country, and the cause for independence by going around calling those who disagree with you idiots at every available opportunity.
You've shown a complete lack of knowledge about the processes and arguments of independence, and have clearly been taken in by the propaganda that's floating around 'up there'.
So please, stop with the boorish dismissals, and unless you actually start making valid points, people will continue to think you ridiculous.

And we might not recognize yours! The tens of thousands of Englishmen living up here will no doubt be effected by that.


Fortunately, people are not as idiotic as you. University degrees will still be recognized in both countries post independence, in accordance with EU law of course.

Well regardless of the outcome of your referendum I would henceforth ban Scots from UK Parliamentary elections. We do not want any more Scottish Prime Ministers.

We want:

To control our own tax
To not have weapons of mass destruction
To get governments that Scotland votes for (only 16% voted tory)
To scrap the bedroom tax
To stop privatization of the NHS
To try and correct privatization of the royal mail
To ensure free tuition fees is written into a constitution
To fight for our fishing industry in Europe
To keep oil revenue in an oil fund
To choose not to go to war
To Stay in the EU (Camerson has promised a referendum)
To control welfare
To Rid ourselves of the House of Lords
To Rid ourselves of Tory rule forever

Thats a few of many.

All these claims are invalid. 'To choose not to go to war' this makes no sense. I don't see a time where we are going to to go war, certainly under a Conservative government.

Jock? Is that where we are at now?

Someone who says Scotland will have no army, is going to be attacked by terrorists, will have no allies and that England will "maybe" not ally with us. Someone who then says that "we", when referring to the UK, which I'm currently a part of, will then not recognize scottish qualifications is well, an idiot.

I'm sorry but he is an idiot, in every sense of the word.

I have people very loyal to me, and very patriotic that support a No vote, yet would not class me as "ridiculous"

I also like how you slate me for being personal, but at the same time attempt to do the same to me. Hypocrisy.


"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Mahatma Gandhi"

You follow that line of thought perfectly!

Jock? Is that where we are at now?

Someone who says Scotland will have no army, is going to be attacked by terrorists, will have no allies and that England will "maybe" not ally with us. Someone who then says that "we", when referring to the UK, which I'm currently a part of, will then not recognize scottish qualifications is well, an idiot.

I'm sorry but he is an idiot, in every sense of the word.

I have people very loyal to me, and very patriotic that support a No vote, yet would not class me as "ridiculous"

I also like how you slate me for being personal, but at the same time attempt to do the same to me. Hypocrisy.


"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Mahatma Gandhi"

You follow that line of thought perfectly!