Pretty Much every Election Post World War two with the exception of Labour Getting in in 97.
There have been two elections in history where percentage wise a party with lesser votes (once tory, once labour) have won a general election, so this is wrong.
But they are in Holyrood, which is where it counts. And we're not talking about PR. We're talking about seperation/Independencae/Divorce. Yes, it's first past the post, but even the minor parties can swing it as we live in a democracy and our MPs have a vote. Just look at how in-effective Holyrood is for an example of PR
I actually think the PR system in Holyrood is much more effective than the Westminster system
Well you've claimed that we should seperate because we have a Party at Westminster representing 11 of the 59 Constituencies in Scotland. I'm merely pointing out that regions within the UK historically vote Labour, Regions throughout the UK historically vote Tory, and Regions within the UK historically vote Lib Dem. You've implied that as we have a non Labour Government in Westminster, we should seperate as we didn't vote for them. I'm merely highlighting that that argument stands for other area's in the UK. The North East of England is hardly a bastion of Conservative Party Support. Should they go as Westminster don't represent their views?
I'm not saying that is the sole reason for Scotland becoming an independent nation. It's just overwhelmingly blatant in Scotland as a region.
I was expanding on your earlier point that the majority of the Scottish electorate didn't vote for Conservative/Lib Dem. I was trying to say, that if Labour got back into power would this make the people of Scotland Happier about being in the UK?
I think if whatever party the scottish electorate voted for (be it greens, labour, lib dem) were the majority government in Westminster the majority of the electorate would be slightly happier as they're being represented more equally. But then again, they might not care either way, I don't want to generalise a whole nation's feelings.
Agreed that the referendum is legite, but your argument is you didn't vote Tory, and have ended up with a Tory Government in Westminster. I didn't vote SNP, but I've ended up with a SNP government in Holyrood. It's democracy deal with it. We can't keep crying every time we don't get our way.
It has nothing to do with who I personally voted for, it's the electorate that I'm talking about. Evidently it's a difference of opinion, I think political representation of a nation is pretty important. Considering that Westminster reserves the most important powers like defence, it's pretty unreasonable to me that the Scottish electorate aren't being heard. That's my view.
I'm pointing out that the matters that affect our day to day lives are controlled here in Scotland. The statement about having more powers involves and affects all of the 63 Million people that make up the UK, not just the 5 Million people living in Scotland. We've got our chance to leave, but I think it's a little unfair to start dictating terms to the other 58 Million by throwing a hissy fit and saying we're being victimised/penalised/feel hard done byt. I'd much rather we change Westminster to benefit all people and not be selfish and just try and get the best deal for ourselves.
The difference is that the English electorate have a vast majority compared to Scotland, they can show their discontent by voting in a different Govt at the next general election. And I don't think it's selfish at all to want to leave the UK.