Is Scottish independence a 'good or bad' thing?

Also it blows a bit of a hole in the BT arguement that Scotland would have 'no' credit rating. Its ahead of Russia and a miniture smidge behind China and Belgium.

tbh I think this will work in the Yes campaigns favour.

They rated Scotland as an A.

To the man on the street thats pretty darn good. Credit Rated A.

Hell the whole UK is only Aa1.

Most people won't even know what the current UK rating is, let alone there are sub ratings.

Also it blows a bit of a hole in the BT arguement that Scotland would have 'no' credit rating. Its ahead of Russia and a miniture smidge behind China and Belgium.

I don't think BT has ever said we'd have no credit rating (is that even possible), but they have said that our credit rating would be worse than the one we enjoy as part of the UK.

You're right. It's never been said we wouldn't have one. Everybody has a credit rating.

Just like Salmond deliberately misquoting Osborne on currency.


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I don't think BT has ever said we'd have no credit rating (is that even possible), but they have said that our credit rating would be worse than the one we enjoy as part of the UK.

I was more worried about the SNPs press release saying that Standard & Poor said we'd still maintain a AAA credit rating when the actual report said nothing of the sort.

I know politicians spin things and interpret things which ever way suits them, but the blatantly make stuff up is unforgivable.

From memory I think what I saw was that 'scotland has no credit record'. The implication being Scotland would have very low, junk status, BB or BBB or something like that.

If I still have the leaflet I'll be able to quote it.

It means borrowing money, which we'll have to, will be significantly more expensive.

There's many factors involved in the cost of borrowing. One is the credit rating, but the other is the size of the economy.

Although the UK did get downgraded to AA1, it was still paying less interest on its loans than Norway who maintained its aAA rating.

Only an economic illeterate would have difficulty understanding how damaging increasing borrowing costs would be. Not helped if Salmond continues to claim to refuse any debt.

youre right in saying that most people won't understand it. But quite a few do, and those people are worried about it.

Ignorance of a problem isn't a defence. I can forgive people on here not getting it, but it worried me that the YeSNP leaders either don't get it, or are deliberately misleading is on it.

Well technically it doesn't have one because it isn't a sovereign state.


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You don't say....

I don't think pedentary is going to win many votes...

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Yet every national paper in Scotland is pro-Union bar the Herald and obviously every London based paper is likewise.

Something doesn't add up here!



Maybe your imagination is running wild again?!

You assume every London based paper is pro Union? I wasn't aware Salmond had endorsed what Putin's up to, though a combination of that and calling Scotland a nation of drunks is such a gift to the No campaign you'd think Salmond's a unionist as well.

Name me one, that is published in Scotland that isn't.

Either way to believe the SNP and YES are getting an easier ride than NO and Better Together is in the realms of fantasy!

They've been desperately running the Putin story for days now.

I didn't say the campaign, I said Alex Salmond personally. What do you think on him calling Scotland a nation of drunks?

I didn't say the campaign, I said Alex Salmond personally.

I swear no other party gets as easy a ride as they do.

Not going to name me a paper then?!

So the last 3 days of coverage around this interview which has spawned Putin and Drinks is an example of Salmond getting it easy?!

What do I think? Well given Scotland has the eight highest alcohol consumption rate on the planet, he has a point. Bump that in alongside the fact he was discussing the need for the SNP policy of bringing in minimum pricing, possibly gives it some context.

Will most Scots care about it? I very much doubt it. There are more important issues.

It's not pedantry when the phrasing totally changes the meaning of the statement. 'Scotland doesn't have a credit rating' does not mean 'Scotland won't have a credit rating'.


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As for a newspaper, the Guardian and Independent go against the status quo of other mainstream UK papers when it comes to a host of things, most notably the monarchy. The Guardian's coverage seems fairly balanced:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/scottish-independence