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http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...s-8457828.html

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I'd just like to take the opportunity to describe the attackers, and all those who support them in ANY way SCUM. We need to go stamp out militant islamism in Africa, seems to be the new scumbed for it.
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Why do you keep spamming this forum with spammy junk written by idiots like Robert Fisk?
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Robert Fisk is a discredited hack and an apologist for war crimes and fascism, the term 'Fisking' was invented for a reason you know

Isn't this the same Robert Fisk who appears of the state television of none other than Russian dictator Vladimir Putin (ironically, almost every word he says about the West in the Middle East could be equally applied to Russia, a country which has in the past 20 years alone, aided and abetted, and in 1 case committed, at least 6 rounds of ethnic cleansing in the Caucasus and Balkans). Robert recently wrote a horrendous article where he implied we would be hypocrites for condemning any use of chemical weapons by Assad, because Britain had used chemical weapons 100 years beforehand, and because the USA gave Saddam chemical weapons (and why the "of course" beside Germany?).

Interesting that Robert likes to present his 'you only care because the victims are white' nonsense (like we haven't heard that one before :rolleyes:) as somehow 'anti-establishment'. However, this argument was used by none other than Conservative MP Sir Peter Tapsell and Conservative British foreign secretary Douglas Hurd due to their anger at the publicity that the victims of a certain other genocide were receiving, and out of their desire for continued collaboration with the purpotraters.
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People care more about their own, shock horror!
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Russia, a country which has in the past 20 years alone, aided and abetted, and in 1 case committed, at least 6 rounds of ethnic cleansing in the Caucasus and Balkans
When exactly did that 1 count of ethnic cleansing occur, enlighten me.
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When exactly did that 1 count of ethnic cleansing occur, enlighten me.
I'll spoiler it, as it's off topic.

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In Abkhazia, Russia aided, abbetted and in some cases directly participated in the ethnic cleansing of Georgians, Greeks, Armenians and moderate Abkhaz between 1992-1993 and in 1998. During the recent 2008 war, Russia participated in the ethnic cleansing of Georgians from South Ossetia. Russia directly engaged in the deportation of Armenains from Shahumyan in 1991.


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Abkhazia - Russia aided, abetted and directly participated in the expulsion of over 250,000 Georgians and non-Abkhaz from Georgia between 1992-1993
South Ossetia - In 2008 Russian forces aided, abetted and in some cases directly participated in the ethnic cleansing of Georgians from South Ossetia
Nagorno-Karabakh - First Russia engaged in the deportation of thousands of Aremians from northern Karabakh in 1991. Later, Russia provided diplomatic cover and armed support for Armenia as it committed ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands Azeris from Nagorno-Karabakh and the surrounding regions, and in some cases Russian units directly participated in these operations (at Khojali).
Croatia - Russia provided diplomatic support for the Milosevic regime as it ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of non-Serbs from the so-called 'Krajina' region in Croatia. The Russian media continues to run Milosevic propoganda against Croatia .
Bosnia-Herzegovina - Russia provided diplomatic support in the UN for the Milosevic regime as it ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of non-Serbs from Bosnia-Herzegovina, and threatened America with a nuclear strike if it intervened. Today the Russian media falsely equates Republika Srpska and Kosovo, and runs genocide denial stories in regards to Bosnia.
Kosovo - Russia did everything possible to prevent intervention against Milosevic as he ethnically cleased Kosovo, and attempted to get the intervention denounced by the UN (though failed.) Today, Russia supports Serb irredentist efforts in Kosovo.
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(Original post by Clessus)
Interesting that Robert likes to present his 'you only care because the victims are white' nonsense (like we haven't heard that one before :rolleyes:) as somehow 'anti-establishment'. However, this argument was used by none other than Conservative MP Sir Peter Tapsell and Conservative British foreign secretary Douglas Hurd due to their anger at the publicity that the victims of a certain other genocide were receiving, and out of their desire for continued collaboration with the purpotraters.
Don't forget that when he was beaten by racist Taleban thugs in Afghanistan he blamed himself for being white and said that if he were an Afghan, he'd do the same thing.

He's a bit like those who blame women for being raped because they're "too flirtatious".
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Don't forget that when he was beaten by racist Taleban thugs in Afghanistan he blamed himself for being white and said that if he were an Afghan, he'd do the same thing.

He's a bit like those who blame women for being raped because they're "too flirtatious".
Haha, ah yes, I forgot about that

He has also come dangerously close to being a 9/11 truther.
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Haha, ah yes, I forgot about that
In fact I don't blame them either. If I were an Afghan I'd probably beat up Robert Fisk too.

He has also come dangerously close to being a 9/11 truther.
No surprises there. No doubt America "had it coming", even if he thinks that the CIA did it. (Or Mossad, he probably thinks they were in on it.)
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Don't forget that when he was beaten by racist Taleban thugs in Afghanistan he blamed himself for being white and said that if he were an Afghan, he'd do the same thing.

He's a bit like those who blame women for being raped because they're "too flirtatious".
Nothing can be certain except death and taxes.

Except for gas engineers in Algeria, then it's just death.
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(Original post by Rhadamanthus)
In fact I don't blame them either. If I were an Afghan I'd probably beat up Robert Fisk too.
haha

No surprises there. No doubt America "had it coming", even if he thinks that the CIA did it. (Or Mossad, he probably thinks they were in on it.)
He's a bit like Chompsky. He is embarassed about his own position and thus keeps it vague and hidden. You can read it here.
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Can we not have this turn into the many flaws of Robert Fisk thread please. Stay on topic
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Can we not have this turn into the many flaws of Robert Fisk thread please. Stay on topic
But the topic is an article by him. Surely we need some background to discuss it.
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But the topic is an article by him. Surely we need some background to discuss it.
Some background yes but I think that's been more than accounted for, the thread is turning into a discussion just about him with no bearing towards what he has said about Algeria.
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Some background yes but I think that's been more than accounted for, the thread is turning into a discussion just about him with no bearing towards what he has said about Algeria.
Sorry, I got a bit carried away
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Why do you keep spamming this forum with spammy junk written by idiots like Robert Fisk?
Why is he an idiot?
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