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Birmingham vs Manchester

Technically Brimingham has 40,000 more people than Greater Manchester but it really annoys me when people refer to it as Englands second city. I mean come on, what has Birmingham ever given to the UK that matches Manchester.

Manchester:
- the computer (alan turin)
- manchester united
- manchester city
- great music (smith, stone roses etc)
- great universities
- great architecture
- some of the most affluent areas of the country e.g. prestbury
- theres loads loads more but i need the toilet

What do you peeps think.. manchester or brummy (stupid ass accent) for 2nd city?

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Reply 1
Doesn't matter what its given.

Birmingham is a working city and is Englands second city :smile:

P.S. Birmingham brought Cadbury's to us :biggrin:


Manchester is a great place and I love it (fellow northener), but to get in a little hissy fit about Brum and claim that because Manchester has 'great universities' and 'Manchester City' is rubbish.
manchester is a cultural and economic force to be reckoned with, the economy would barely miss b'ham and culture certainly wouldn't.
Reply 3
I should thing the economy would be fairly devastated if either Manchester or Birmingham were to go, but that's irrelevant, I don't think there is an official "Second city".
Reply 4
abelard
Technically Brimingham has 40,000 more people than Greater Manchester but it really annoys me when people refer to it as Englands second city. I mean come on, what has Birmingham ever given to the UK that matches Manchester.

Manchester:
- the computer (alan turin)
- manchester united
- manchester city
- great music (smith, stone roses etc)
- great universities
- great architecture
- some of the most affluent areas of the country e.g. prestbury
- theres loads loads more but i need the toilet

What do you peeps think.. manchester or brummy (stupid ass accent) for 2nd city?


...Steam trains
...suffragettes....

seriously, Brum can't match it!
Reply 5
I probably just sound biased in these threads but I went to Birmingham hoping it would match Manchester to end my biased views but the place lacked any form of excitement compared to Manchester.

If you look around Manchester there is so many new and old buildings and within the wonderful skyscrapers you have loads of other new buildings going up.

Also according to some new report Manchester is now the best city to do business in the country according to the education of the workforce and the price of office space.

Abe>Isn't Prestbury actually in Cheshire and not Greater Manchester? Even so parts of Stockport and Trafford are extremely rich areas.

Also in some parts of Manchester it is not unheared of to pay £600,000 for a large terrace house.

I personaly don't see Birmingham has been the second city anymore and most northerners or mancs think Manchester is now the second city, the problem is there is no way of knowing but it has to be based on economic output rather than population.
Birmingham is not shi.t:

"We've got Jasper Carrott & HP Sauce, Kojak, curry & concrete, the iron man & heavy metal, ...everything that makes life worth living"

Not forgetting spaghetti junction, the Giant Bull, Selfridges architechture, Cadbury's, Brindley Place, Gas Street Basin, Millenium Point, Star City, the Jewellery quarter, ThinkTank, ikon Gallery and Cannon Hill Park.

Overall, its a multicultural city that firmly deserves to behind London as the best city in England
Reply 7
It's quite funny how people are fighting to be in second place.

Does it honestly matter? Different cities offer different things to different people.
Reply 8
DENNIS_MENACE
Birmingham is not shi.t:

"We've got Jasper Carrott & HP Sauce, Kojak, curry & concrete, the iron man & heavy metal, ...everything that makes life worth living"

Not forgetting spaghetti junction, the Giant Bull, Selfridges architechture, Cadbury's, Brindley Place, Gas Street Basin, Millenium Point, Star City, the Jewellery quarter, ThinkTank, ikon Gallery and Cannon Hill Park.

Overall, its a multicultural city that firmly deserves to behind London as the best city in England


Manchester has two Selfridges so ha! :biggrin: We may not have Cadburys but we do have Kellogs and McVities.
yeh, but does your selfridges look like frogspawn? I rest my case.
DENNIS_MENACE
yeh, but does your selfridges look like frogspawn? I rest my case.
In all fairness, our Selfridges are works of art.

In any case, I bet Birmingham doesn't get lots of lovely rain! :biggrin:
Reply 11
gemgems89
In all fairness, our Selfridges are works of art.

In any case, I bet Birmingham doesn't get lots of lovely rain! :biggrin:

It gets smog though :cool:
Ferrus
It gets smog though :cool:
Ha. Manchester doesn't! As if.

It was only today, actually, that I was reading an English Language exam paper where the text was persuading people to come to Brum. It made out as if it was all cultured and sophisticated... *ahem* liars *ahem* :flute:
Reply 13
I have lived in Manchester for 23 years and have never seen Smog. Oxford is apparantly more polluted than Manchester and is of course London.
AT82
I have lived in Manchester for 23 years and have never seen Smog. Oxford is apparantly more polluted than Manchester and is of course London.
You're in denial. :cool:
Reply 15
gemgems89
You're in denial. :cool:


Honestly I have never seen smog, I have seen fog but they are both completly different things. You need face masks and torches if you ever get smog.
AT82
Honestly I have never seen smog, I have seen fog but they are both completly different things. You need face masks and torches if you ever get smog.
I know; I've never seen it either but I thought it'd be fun to act as if I have. Chill! You get very patriotic when it comes to Manchester, don't ya? :p:
Reply 17
Well if gas prices still continue to rise people will have to burn coal again and it will return :biggrin:
:eek: Heaven forbid.
Reply 19
The higher forces that be, have told me to apologise for my untoward comments and assert the undisputable fact, viz, that manchester is the indeed the best city ever.