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    (Original post by piginapoke)
    Of course they can make that determination; I'm just observing that given that the US was pretty much a free-for-all in the dim past and now its tickets seem to be mostly sold out.
    That's true. It's also "tough luck"!
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    Sorry to be the ******** here...but ...they should all **** off and take care of themselves...even our country was once fooked up...so they'll be fine
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    (Original post by bono)
    But they would accept immagrants (presumably) if they brought something positive to the country. i.e.) if they were a doctor or a professor. Therefore I wouldn't say the matter is whether they are an immagrant as such.
    Fair point. There are plenty of Oxford Dons poached for the benefit of Harvard. There are also plenty of E TYPE immigrant visas for people who want to invest in America. These are the sorts of immigrants that America is trying to attract and not "wetbacks" from accross the Rio Grande.
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    What country do you come from?
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    (Original post by Howard)
    Fair point. There are plenty of Oxford Dons poached for the benefit of Harvard. There are also plenty of E TYPE immigrant visas for people who want to invest in America. These are the sorts of immigrants that America is trying to attract and not "wetbacks" from accross the Rio Grande.
    Exactly, so why do they say "immagrants" as if it is any immagrant regardless of occupation/status, when really it's just being selective?
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    (Original post by mentor16)
    Sorry to be the ******** here...but ...they should all **** off and take care of themselves...even our country was once fooked up...so they'll be fine
    LOL, how random..
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    (Original post by Howard)
    Fair point. There are plenty of Oxford Dons poached for the benefit of Harvard. There are also plenty of E TYPE immigrant visas for people who want to invest in America. These are the sorts of immigrants that America is trying to attract and not "wetbacks" from accross the Rio Grande.
    The problem is that the main reason any country needs immigrants would be large amounts of cheeper labour. The USA, and to a lesser extent, the UK have sufficient lower level workers, closing the first step for immagrants, invreasing the unemployment. This means that more skilled workers would make the government look better, while taking the strain off of the higher levels of the job market.
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    (Original post by Howard)
    Fair point. There are plenty of Oxford Dons poached for the benefit of Harvard. There are also plenty of E TYPE immigrant visas for people who want to invest in America. These are the sorts of immigrants that America is trying to attract and not "wetbacks" from accross the Rio Grande.
    About the TYPE E visa thing.

    We have something similar here in the UK, but isnt it still considered to be a work permit lasting 4 years? Before you get permission for application for the passport.
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    (Original post by bono)
    Exactly, so why do they say "immagrants" as if it is any immagrant regardless of occupation/status, when really it's just being selective?
    Don't know.

    That's part of the problem. "Immigrant' has very negative connotations doesn't it? But, there are immigrants and there are immigrants.
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    (Original post by Howard)
    Don't know.

    That's part of the problem. "Immigrant' has very negative connotations doesn't it? But, there are immigrants and there are immigrants.
    Well yes, but they should clarify the situation rather than pretending that "any immigrant is considered negative on our part" when really it's "what occupation do you have; if it's good then come in".
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    (Original post by 2776)
    About the TYPE E visa thing.

    We have something similar here in the UK, but isnt it still considered to be a work permit lasting 4 years? Before you get permission for application for the passport.
    Yes. An E type is actually an investors visa that you can get if you want to buy a business in the US. I came on a L type which is for "intra-company transferees" There's lot's of different sorts "H1" "B1" etc.

    They are basically work permits but if you "play it right" you can use them as a springboard to permanent residence (that's the "green card") and then citizenship (if you want)

    Pretty much all immigrants come to the US initially on a visa these days. I don't think they grant green cards striaght away anymore.
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    (Original post by bono)
    Well yes, but they should clarify the situation rather than pretending that "any immigrant is considered negative on our part" when really it's "what occupation do you have; if it's good then come in".
    Only stupid countries turn away "all immigrants"
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    (Original post by Howard)
    Only stupid countries turn away "all immigrants"
    True.
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    (Original post by mentor16)
    they should all **** off and take care of themselves...
    Can you actually read?

    44,000 people from outside the EU (Nigeria, India, Phillipines etc) were brought over to the UK to work for the NHS and private health services. Without them, our health services would be crippled.
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    (Original post by dazmanultra)
    Can you actually read?

    44,000 people from outside the EU (Nigeria, India, Phillipines etc) were brought over to the UK to work for the NHS and private health services. Without them, our health services would be crippled.
    And with them THEIR health services are crippled.

    Importing qualified medical staff from third world countries harms those countries as well as ignores the efforts that we could and should be making to train our own people to do these jobs.
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    (Original post by Howard)
    And with them THEIR health services are crippled.

    Importing qualified medical staff from third world countries harms those countries as well as ignores the efforts that we could and should be making to train our own people to do these jobs.
    But we live in capitalist nations.
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    (Original post by bono)
    But we live in capitalist nations.
    And?
 
 
 
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