Video of LAPD officer executing man

ESPORTIVA

(edited 11 years ago)

Reply 1

Blair Waldorf

Why did he run? The innocent don't usually run...

Reply 2

Psyk

Original post by Blair Waldorf

Why did he run? The innocent don't usually run...

Doesn't mean he deserved to be shot. Maybe he was an illegal immigrant, so didn't want to be caught. Being in a country illegally is wrong, but it hardly deserves death, and it doesn't mean they're a threat to people's safety.

Yes I am thinking of a certain incident that happened in this country.

Reply 3

Blair Waldorf

Original post by Psyk

I was not defending the cops behaviour but I've seen in movies that if you run away they have a right to shoot you.

Reply 4

Psyk

Original post by Blair Waldorf

I was not defending the cops behaviour but I've seen in movies that if you run away they have a right to shoot you.

But seriously, I suppose there is an argument for that. It sounds excessive, but at least it would stop people trying to run away if the police catch them doing something illegal.

Reply 5

Hopple

Original post by ESPORTIVA

I agree with you apart from the bolded (well, I agree with the bolded but not with what I think you were trying to say just missed out the word 'only'). Over there the cops will shoot to stop you, so don't run. Clearly the self defence argument doesn't work, nor does shooting him dead on the ground.

Reply 6

Blair Waldorf

Original post by Psyk

But seriously, I suppose there is an argument for that. It sounds excessive, but at least it would stop people trying to run away if the police catch them doing something illegal.

Yeah lol don't quote me on that could be wrong :wink:

Reply 7

Steevee

DO you have a link to the full story?

I'd be interested to have a read.

Reply 8

ESPORTIVA

Original post by Steevee

DO you have a link to the full story?

I'd be interested to have a read.

Nah found it on reddit

Reply 9

Steevee

Original post by ESPORTIVA

Nah found it on reddit

You should always be careful with stuff like this if you don't know the full story.

Reply 10

Mourinho<3

Original post by Steevee

You should always be careful with stuff like this if you don't know the full story.

http://projects.latimes.com/homicide/post/johnathan-cuevas/

http://latinrapper.com/blogs/?p=4376

The youtube video said google the name-these are some links to the story if you do.

So I agree at the moment it is far from clear what the circumstances were. Time will obviously give more evidence, etc

Reply 11

thunder_chunky

Original post by Blair Waldorf

I was not defending the cops behaviour but I've seen in movies that if you run away they have a right to shoot you.

Well then it must be true.

Reply 12

MatureStudent36

Original post by ESPORTIVA

Ghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhfPyGOb6eg

Okay so the victim was running away....

Running away.

Running.

Away.

And the officer shot him 3 times in the back and then shot him dead whilst the man was on the floor.

Isnt the firearm supposed to be used in life threatening situation?

In the UK we'd say that was wrong. In the US they've obviously said it was ok. Some people can run away, turn around and then shoot. You just don't know.

How is running away from the officer life threatening?

Looks like the officer was alone. As I said, the guy could've stoipped, turned around and shot. Run to his car and get a bigger gun and shot at the officer.

Why shoot him dead whilst he was on the ground? Was he still a threat?

Why do you care? It's not like it's happened in the UK.

Reply 13

ESPORTIVA

If he really wanted to stop this guy, why not just use a taser?

Or perhaps chase him in the car and bump him down to the ground (they've done this before against an armed man).

Oh no wait this is the LAPD...

They've shot a few innocent people looking for this dorner guy, then burnt him alive in a cabin.

Protect and serve my arse.

Reply 14

ESPORTIVA

Original post by MatureStudent36

What car? What bigger gun?

Reply 15

Darth Stewie

Legally the police in the US can shoot you if they have reasonable suspicion that by your running away you are a danger to society, the police officer claimed the dead man had reached into his waistband as he was running and a handgun was recovered at the scene which is probably why it was ruled the police officers actions were justified.

Reply 16

SillyEddy

Original post by Darth Stewie

I always get the impression that sometimes the evidence is collected after they shoot to kill, and that they use that to justify their actions. For instance, an alleged criminal (admittedly, with a history) gets trapped escaping from a car - He reaches in to undo his seat belt (which he was trapped on, but the cop believed to be a firearm) and was shot about 8 times. As it happens, there was a firearm, but this was found afterwards.

In other cases, they accidentally find huge stashes of weed in someone's house after coming in for a different, minor, reason. Suddenly, it's all justified.

The UK approach would be a case of waiting until they're an immediate threat. I don't believe that it's justified to shoot someone for running away or for "reaching for a weapon" if they don't see the weapon first.

With my sister living near LA, I do hear of a few things like this going down every so often.