White British have moved out of London

Conversely, the number of white British in many areas outside London saw a significant increase, which means, I think, we can dismiss any notion of a dwindling white population in Britain as a whole in comparison with other ethnicities.

Magda, what part of Poland are you from?

Many people complain because you eastern europeans come over here, take our jobs, and are willing to work for nothing, which is why us british don't want to do crap jobs...

There was much consternation by the conservative press after the census results indicated that white British are a minority in London. Although that was slighly misleading reporting (it did not follow that any other ethnicity was a "majority" only its own), it did indicate that white people were moving out of London.

The conservative press chose to interpret that as a "pushing out" of white people by an influx of other ethnicities (or even a "takeover" by cultures with higher birth rates). However, the BBC study today suggests the opposite: white British people who had done well in London chose to move out to the country; the younger, working population is now more diverse, consisting of both immigrants and non-white British who moved to London to work. Conversely, the number of white British in many areas outside London saw a significant increase, which means, I think, we can dismiss any notion of a dwindling white population in Britain as a whole in comparison with other ethnicities.

I really don't see any problem with that; it sounds positive to me and is a reflection of what London has always been about. People coming in from abroad to work. What is interesting is that the people who complain the loudest about it are those who don't actually live and work in London; those who do, don't seem to mind. Quite the opposite.

But those who do mind about keeping a white majority in Britain can now, I think relax.

The conservative press chose to interpret that as a "pushing out" of white people by an influx of other ethnicities (or even a "takeover" by cultures with higher birth rates). However, the BBC study today suggests the opposite: white British people who had done well in London chose to move out to the country; the younger, working population is now more diverse, consisting of both immigrants and non-white British who moved to London to work.

Its not a new concept. It's proper name is white flight.

It was a concern raised by a certain politician in the 60s that got shouted down. As we're his concerns about the EU.

Both of those being utterly shocking conclusions given each side's respective ideological views.


The white population is not reducing in absolute terms but it is reducing in comparison with other ethnicities.

I don't think anyone is drawing the conclusion from London's white population declining that the white population has died or something. Rather, the non-BBC reading might be that white people are choosing to leave London because they feel alienated from now majority immigrant communities rather than because they're all bankers who have retired to the Home Counties.

Frankly the BBC's view on this sounds like rather flimsy spin. A more solid Good News story about immigration might be that interracial marriages and births are increasing rapidly, which indicates that most immigrant communities aren't forming tribal ghettos as some had feared. But if you regard Britain becoming a minority-white nation as a bad thing - and I make no comment on that but it seems to be implicit on both sides - it is the inevitable result of the past immigration policies continuing.

It's not the same as the white flight Powell was talking about though - he was saying that white people were moving out because of an increase in ethnic minority populations; this suggests the opposite.

London's economy has done much better than other regions of the UK.

http://www.edmundconway.com/2012/12/the-lopsided-recovery/

The second recession of the 'double dip' never hit London - London's economy continued to grow all through last year. Parts of London (eg the East End of inner London) never even had a contraction in output in the deepest parts of the 2008-09 recession.



London has pulled ahead of the rest of the UK in recent years.

There was much consternation by the conservative press after the census results indicated that white British are a minority in London. Although that was slighly misleading reporting (it did not follow that any other ethnicity was a "majority" only its own), it did indicate that white people were moving out of London.

The conservative press chose to interpret that as a "pushing out" of white people by an influx of other ethnicities (or even a "takeover" by cultures with higher birth rates). However, the BBC study today suggests the opposite: white British people who had done well in London chose to move out to the country; the younger, working population is now more diverse, consisting of both immigrants and non-white British who moved to London to work. Conversely, the number of white British in many areas outside London saw a significant increase, which means, I think, we can dismiss any notion of a dwindling white population in Britain as a whole in comparison with other ethnicities.

I really don't see any problem with that; it sounds positive to me and is a reflection of what London has always been about. People coming in from abroad to work. What is interesting is that the people who complain the loudest about it are those who don't actually live and work in London; those who do, don't seem to mind. Quite the opposite.

But those who do mind about keeping a white majority in Britain can now, I think relax.

Why should they work with such a lucrative benefits system that rewards people to stay at home?

Complete nonsense. I can tell you why white people are leaving London. I am from London and am a student here. I found out that I was pregnant a few weeks ago. Myself and my partner are going to get married, and leave the country. Luckily we are in a position to do this because my partner has a well paid job and has money behind him. We are leaving London because we don’t want to bring up our child in a city like this. It’s bad enough that we need to put up with large parts of the city where anyone from anyone in the world can come to full of crime, and a society that does not respect its own people and just wants to flood them into an Indian village or an African village. Then we would have to put up with our child being taught all of the rubbish that comes with such a society like gender is relative, atheism is the best policy, white people don’t exist as a group with a policy of purposefully trying to put us into groups there society is nothing because we don’t know our neighbour, can’t understand out neighbour and all this breads is fear and mistrust.

I don’t want these nutcases who run this country and put their rubbish into the schools and the TV to teach my child these things. Therefore we are not only leaving London but we are leaving Britain. The country has no hope left, it’s too far gone. Just look at the way many people talk. They will only pay attention when everything has collapsed. The people en mass are not all there, not right in the head, and all they can do is respond to such talk with words like racist! Time to bail out. People can’t even say what they believe. That’s why white people are getting out of London. We don’t want our child stabbed, and you insane people can have your African village with street gangs that implodes when it does not have the money to police itself. You think you are clever but you don’t know anything. It is like your mind is suspended in a nightmare matrix which appears wonderful to you. You say "more diverse, consisting of both immigrants and non-white British who moved to London to work. Conversely, the number of white British in many areas outside London saw a significant increase, which means, I think, we can dismiss any notion of a dwindling white population in Britain as a whole in comparison with other ethnicities......it sounds positive to me"All of this rubbish is put forward by theoretical ignoramuses who have no grip on reality, and shamefully this country is run by these ignoramuses.

I don’t think relax. I think people should get over their fear and take to the streets because your future is bleak.

You don't like immigrants...so you want to respond by becoming an immigrant yourself? Solid.

If the choice is between living in a country that is turning into African and Asian ghettos, but with the British flag and Queen above it, or living in lets say a nice white village on the outside of a city in Switzerland, the choice is obvious. A white British person has far more in common with white people from other European countries than people from other continents many who arrived in the last 5 years, from grinding poverty and whose values and priorities are so different, its like being on a different planet. In short it is down to race. The white race, a truth and a reality which to be frank, racists want to say is a nonentity. It is better to go to another country and live in the true world, than stay in your own country when it has turned into a nightmare, and a nightmare which people just want to make into even more of a nightmare. So its not like saying I don't like immigrants so I am going to become an immigrant. I don't believe in huge ethnic movements to white countries, so I am going to go to a white country that does not do this.

I take it you live in East London? Because if you were living in Chelsea/Kensington/Mayfair or Belgravia you wouldn't complain about the crime or "ghettos". So your bf/baby daddy can't be that well off if you're not able to live in a wealthy part of the city.
If you choose to live in the capital, the overall crime rate will be higher than in smaller villages and the overall prices will be higher. Which means that living in a good neighborhood in a big city will be expensive. This is the same whether you are in London, Paris, New York or Scandinavia. I don't see how London stands out in that aspect. So if you don't have much money and move to the big city, you'll be stuck in a bad area. That's the end of it.

Complete nonsense. I can tell you why white people are leaving London. I am from London and am a student here. I found out that I was pregnant a few weeks ago. Myself and my partner are going to get married, and leave the country. Luckily we are in a position to do this because my partner has a well paid job and has money behind him. We are leaving London because we don’t want to bring up our child in a city like this. It’s bad enough that we need to put up with large parts of the city where anyone from anyone in the world can come to full of crime, and a society that does not respect its own people and just wants to flood them into an Indian village or an African village. Then we would have to put up with our child being taught all of the rubbish that comes with such a society like gender is relative, atheism is the best policy, white people don’t exist as a group with a policy of purposefully trying to put us into groups there society is nothing because we don’t know our neighbour, can’t understand out neighbour and all this breads is fear and mistrust.

I don’t want these nutcases who run this country and put their rubbish into the schools and the TV to teach my child these things. Therefore we are not only leaving London but we are leaving Britain. The country has no hope left, it’s too far gone. Just look at the way many people talk. They will only pay attention when everything has collapsed. The people en mass are not all there, not right in the head, and all they can do is respond to such talk with words like racist! Time to bail out. People can’t even say what they believe. That’s why white people are getting out of London. We don’t want our child stabbed, and you insane people can have your African village with street gangs that implodes when it does not have the money to police itself. You think you are clever but you don’t know anything. It is like your mind is suspended in a nightmare matrix which appears wonderful to you. You say "more diverse, consisting of both immigrants and non-white British who moved to London to work. Conversely, the number of white British in many areas outside London saw a significant increase, which means, I think, we can dismiss any notion of a dwindling white population in Britain as a whole in comparison with other ethnicities......it sounds positive to me"All of this rubbish is put forward by theoretical ignoramuses who have no grip on reality, and shamefully this country is run by these ignoramuses.

I don’t think relax. I think people should get over their fear and take to the streets because your future is bleak.

I actually live near Stockwell, but my bf lives in a "nice area". We have not moved in together yet. We have decided that living in a "nice area" in this country is not an option. Our child would still have its head filled with rubbish from the schools and TV, like I was talking about that gender is relative, equality is the most important thing, and white people need to become more diverse and all this nonsense where you can't say what you think etc. etc.