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    (Original post by piginapoke)
    At the end of the day (it gets dark), its all just bits of matter clogged together isn't it? Bah... this leads on to the 'what is consciousness' stuff which I thought I'd figured out but I've lost the plot on it again.
    conciousness- being able to communicate none physical entities to members of the same species and to oneself.
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    (Original post by Golden Maverick)
    The usual second choice is silicon - very similar to carbon chemically.
    can silicon be formed naturally?
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    (Original post by riffraff)
    can silicon be formed naturally?
    yes - sand (silicon oxide)
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    (Original post by Golden Maverick)
    yes - sand (silicon oxide)
    would that be feasible? surely you would need pure silicon? what about for other temperatures- if the temperature was really low then perhaps liquid or solid states of some of the gases could be used e.g. argon
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    (Original post by riffraff)
    would that be feasible? surely you would need pure silicon? what about for other temperatures- if the temperature was really low then perhaps liquid or solid states of some of the gases could be used e.g. argon
    It would have to be able to form many different chemical substances, argon wouldnt work as it one of the least reactive elements. Silicon can form 4 bonds like carbon, can form many compounds, is relatively abundant.
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    (Original post by Golden Maverick)
    It would have to be able to form many different chemical substances, argon wouldnt work as it one of the least reactive elements. Silicon can form 4 bonds like carbon, can form many compounds, is relatively abundant.
    ok, what about nitrogen, or oxygen?
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    (Original post by riffraff)
    ok, what about nitrogen, or oxygen?
    They would be needed to make other molecules with the main one. But they only form 2 bonds (nitrogen 3) so would not be ablo to form chains - one of the most important things about any base molecule, almost any important molecule in nature has a carbon backbone in a chain.
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    (Original post by Golden Maverick)
    They would be needed to make other molecules with the main one. But they only form 2 bonds (nitrogen 3) so would not be ablo to form chains - one of the most important things about any base molecule, almost any important molecule in nature has a carbon backbone in a chain.
    gah- should have remembered that- we've just done hydrocarbons in chemistry.
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    (Original post by drago di giada)
    Christianity is no more wrong than buddhism, hinduism, judaism, etc.. If you call one religion wrong then you call them all wrong. It is a person's beliefs that are what make it right, if they believe so strongly in something why would you want to disuade them? You should want them to be happy.. am I wrong?
    yes, some people jus believe in religion becasue they were brought up with it, they dont actually know the purpose of it. thats in the case of other relgions, i jus wanted to staighten that out.
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    (Original post by Weejimmie)
    Not at all. Nearly every religion maintains that every other religion is wrong or wrongish or not quite right. That is how they differ from one another. What if they believe strongly that they are so right and wonderful the rest of the world should do what they want?Yes. You are wrong. If happiness depends on delusions or another person's unhappiness then they should not want to be happy. In fact, if you agree "Call no man happy until he is dead." you have a right to kill people to make them happy.
    people have the right to be happy.. to a certain extent.. if it means pain, suffering, and death for themselves or others.. then what? they are deemed crazy, OR murderous. I say ok.. they are psycho.. good for them, let them be happy, in an insane asylum.
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    (Original post by drago di giada)
    people have the right to be happy.. to a certain extent..
    Even the US constiution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness.
    if it means pain, suffering, and death for themselves or others.. then what? they are deemed crazy, OR murderous.
    or religious.
    I say ok.. they are psycho.. good for them, let them be happy, in an insane asylum.
    You can guarantee their happiness?
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    (Original post by Weejimmie)
    Even the US constiution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness.or religious.You can guarantee their happiness?
    You're such a nit-picker!.
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    (Original post by drago di giada)
    You're such a nit-picker!.
    I merely prefer people to be accurate in what they say.
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    (Original post by Weejimmie)
    I merely prefer people to be accurate in what they say.
    Still a nit-picker!
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    (Original post by drago di giada)
    Still a nit-picker!
    Beats a pit-nicker any day!
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    When we want to talk about Islam as a way of life, it is a very difficult task especially in the West because of several misconceptions and stereotypes that are prevalent about Islam and Muslims.

    One of the surprising facts for most non-Muslims is that Islam has over 975 million followers all over the world. Islam has a revelation, a holy book, called the Qur'an which was revealed to the prophet Mohammed, peace be upon him, about fourteen hundred years ago. The Qur'an is the last and final revelation until the end of human existence on earth.

    When we talk about Islam or Christianity, we should not consider some Muslims' and Christians' wrongdoings as a way to judge Islam or Christianity.

    As far as scripture goes, let us see what Dr. Maurice Bucaille said in his book "The Bible, the Qur'an and Science", which was published by the American Trust Publications 1979:


    "Thanks to its undisputed authenticity, the text of the Qur'an holds a unique place among the books of Revelation, shared neither by the Old nor the New Testament. In the first two sections of this work, a review was made of the alterations undergone by the Old Testament and the Gospels before they were handed down to us in the form we know today. The same is not true for the Qur'an for the simple reason that it was written down at the time of the prophet".
    Somebody with a counter argument might ask, "How would I know that the Qur'an is a revelation from Allah?" Do you have any evidence?"

    I have evidence that the Qur'an is a revelation from Allah and this evidence is presented in the next few pages. When the revelation of the Qur'an commenced in 622 A.D., it was a linguistic miracle. The Qur'an has a challenge in it. The challenge is for anybody to produce some thing like or similar to the Qur'an
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    This challenge was present in the Qur'an in Sura no. 17, verse no. 88 which is translated as follows:


    " Say: If the whole of mankind and Jinn were together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they back up each other with help and support."
    Years passed and nobody was able to meet the challenge. Later (after several years) the challenge in the Qur'an was eased asking for anyone to produce even ten Suras like those in it. This was in the Quran in Sura no. 11, verse no. 13 which is translated as follows:


    " or they may say, "He forged it" Say, "Bring ye then ten Suras forged, like unto it, and call (to your aid) whomsoever ye can, other than Allah! If ye speak the truth"
    Again years passed and nobody was able to successfully meet the challenge. Later the challenge was eased for the second time to produce one Sura like or similar to the Suras in the Qur'an. The challenge (to anyone) to produce one Sura was presented in the Qur'an in more than a Sura, one of them was in Sura no. 2, Verse no. 23 which is translated as follows:


    "And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers besides Allah, if what you say is true."
    Since then, more than fourteen hundred years have passed, and nobody has been able to meet the challenge, and nobody will, because the Qur'an is the only existing book containing the word of Allah which no man can match or imitate. The most eloquent people in the Arabic language spent years going over and searching the Qur'an, trying to find any weak or inadequate word or sentence, but they could not. They even went further, trying to find a way to substitute a word or a sentence in the Qur'an, hoping to convey a similar meaning as the original one, but they failed to do so.

    As a result of this, many people, especially linguists, throughout the last fourteen hundred years believed in the Qur'an as a revelation beyond any human capacity.
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    (Original post by Weejimmie)
    Beats a pit-nicker any day!
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    (Original post by Saintsin)
    If Mary is the mother of god but she also carried out the virgin birth of Jesus Christ, Jesus is the son of god but also the brother of god, Jesus mother is his own grandmother if she is gods mother :confused:
    Sir Humprey!
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    Sir Humprey!
    LMAO!
 
 
 
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