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    It's because of a small group of fanatical extremist idiots who call themselves "muslims" and yet believe it is right in killing many other innocent people justifying it as in the name of their religion. It is these idiots who give the rest of the innocent muslim community a bad name and along with the media which helps to exacerbate things further.

    The thing is there are bad people everywhere, in every religion. It's unfair for a whole religion and community of people to be labelled under the same bad category just because of a small minority of idiots...
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    (Original post by FCI)
    Daft if you werent aware that paksitan has been funding and training islamist terroists for decades, then it makes perfect sense that worlds most wanted terrorist lives down the road from paksitani intelligence. But then i think the irony used in last post went over your head. USA (and everyone else) known for years about pakistanis two-facedness involvemnt in terrorism, but didnt really become their business till 9/11. then paksitanwere all like " bin laden not our country" , they obviously had no clue USA had ability to track him, fly into their country, excecute him and fly out without them even knowing.most if not all major terrorist incidents can trace some link back to paksitan, not more than few days ago 3 british moslem men were jailed for triaing in paksitan then planning to attack targets in birmingham, This was thwarted because we in uk, sharing with europe and uas have a network of anti islamist inteligence, that infirltrates mosques and online forums tracking islamist acticity and collecting evidence. pakistan does none of this, despite all the terorsit activity sitting on their doorstep. becuase they have no inclination to stop islamists. this goes for taleban and few east african moslem states too. These states only do anything when pressurred by the USA. they are a firmal illustrationof point i made about moslems refusing to act against fellow moslems and islamists. the other moslem post on this thread also illustrate it.Does anyone? whats that got to do with it, so you claim pakistanis arnt moslem now? are there then zero genuine moslems in the world then?you need to re-examine your understanding of the words 'back up my view'i guess you are now going to move on to the moon landings and how they never happedned either..in terms of your above story, i agree.
    Ah yes, how very true and highly probable - Pakistan has been funding terrorists, which then complete training to kill members of the Pakistani public. The last president was also general of the army, he didn't need terrorists, as his specialist forces were adequate. The current President killed his own wife for money and power. He continues to ass-lick the American government for more money, and was declared as being richer than the Queen about a year and a half ago. But guess what? The public can barely afford food, barely afford education, don't have electricity for the majority (if not the whole) of the day, and the system is (most likely) the most corrupt that history has ever seen. All this is despite the president being so rich, and the ridiculous amount of aid that goes to them. The individual charities do what they can, but there's only so much thy can do if the government doesn't co-operate. Some areas still don't have clean water to drink, and the healthcare is appauling. The whole situation makes me sick.

    Ah yes, USA knows about their two-faced nature, which is why they continue to give the government more money. USA had the ability to track bin Laden? lol, they were no match for the lunatic. He was on the run for years, and when they claimed to have killed him, they couldn't produce any evidence apart from ambiguous blood stains in a random house. It's all a guise to control the country, I'm guessing you don't know a thing about ramon davis who was all over the Pakistani news channels, either? :yep: :clap2:

    Whereas the arrested terrorists go, if they have been trialed and proven guilty adequately, then they should kill the ******** to stop it happening again. They obviously had not the sense to realise that they would be killing Muslims, especially since it was to be done in Birmingham. Either they are severely mentally retarded, or something isn't right here.

    Are you listening to yourself? You claim that it is an Islamic government, then when asked whether they go by Islam you say it has no relevance? Get a hold of yourself.
    I claimed Pakistanis aren't muslims? Oh, did I do this by telepathy as well now? There are many genuine muslims in Pakistan, but to say that the government is Islamic is just making a fool of yourself. You've obviously not ever seen anything about the Pakistani government, then :rolleyes:

    Ah, lovely. You can't argue the point so attempt to divert to the moon landings, which I mentioned nothing about. False argument. Well done :clap2:

    Ah, so you agree, albeit discretely.

    btw you are from the UK? :zomg: I thought you were American because of your seemingly patriotic nature defending America :lol:
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    (Original post by JediArron)
    It's just due to a large majority of terrorists are Muslim.
    Then the media and idiots in society believe that 'all'/'most' followers of Islam are terrorists, and that their religion encourages it. They believe it is encouraged in Islam to become a terrorist, and it's not, nothing more than a de-contextualization of the verses in the Qu'ran,
    uh oh, You said a large majority of muslims are terrorists. Had this been the case, we would've ruled the whole world. However it isn't, thankfully most of us have brains.
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    (Original post by Mazy95)
    It's really none of the West's business what Muslim countries do. Who died and made America the world police?
    So you think that Moslem countries that do business with the west are traitors ! What about the millions that leave and can't get here (the west especially uk/ USA ) quick enough to live among the infidels , are they not traitors? If you think it's none of our business what people do in their country
    why do you think you can come here and criticise and try to change laws and culture in my country freedom of speech being one of them.
    Hypocrasy and double standards are abhorrent .
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    (Original post by Elsagatehouse)
    So you think that Moslem countries that do business with the west are traitors ! What about the millions that leave and can't get here (the west especially uk/ USA ) quick enough to live among the infidels , are they not traitors? If you think it's none of our business what people do in their country
    why do you think you can come here and criticise and try to change laws and culture in my country freedom of speech being one of them.
    Hypocrasy and double standards are abhorrent .
    There is no need for a hysterics. If you had bothered to read, the poster was trying to ask why America acts as the "World police" when it comes to nations.

    This comment stems from American and generally the West's advocacy for democracy and human rights as well as capitalism in countries where these ideas are antipathic.

    In doing so, the poster asking where America gained the legitimacy to tell other nations what they can and cannot do, in the broadest of sense.
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    (Original post by Mazy95)
    Oh right. I've heard of 'humanists' before. Have you read the Qur'an with translation?
    No, to tell you the truth not fully...
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    Isn't it obvious...
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    (Original post by FCI)
    you are struggling to answer the points raised to you.have you looked up arab history yet, slave trade etc?
    You're the one who ignored everything I said..
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    (Original post by Elsagatehouse)
    So you think that Moslem countries that do business with the west are traitors ! What about the millions that leave and can't get here (the west especially uk/ USA ) quick enough to live among the infidels , are they not traitors? If you think it's none of our business what people do in their country
    why do you think you can come here and criticise and try to change laws and culture in my country freedom of speech being one of them.
    Hypocrasy and double standards are abhorrent .
    They are traitors because they are puppets of the West and do whatever they want them to. Including killing.
    What freedom of speech? Where people like Julian Assange have to hide because they exposed the government or people like Bradley Manning get put on trial/convicted for leaking information about Western war crimes instead of the actual perpetrators of those crimes..
    You can say anything bad about Muslims in your countries but I dare you to shout out against Jews or Israel in public.
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    (Original post by midnightice)
    What an incredibly ignorant thing to say. I guess you also believe Bush and Blair are not war criminals, yes? Incredible.
    you sound intellectually challenged

    the conspiracy theories about 9/11, or about a hypothetical global plan for the overthrow of Khadafi and Assad etc are just the usual intellectual garbage

    the intervention in Afghanistan and (even more) in Iraq on the contrary are legitimate subjects for debate and discussion

    In my view, at least the intervention in Iraq was clearly wrong.
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    (Original post by ash92:))
    USA had the ability to track bin Laden? lol, they were no match for the lunatic. He was on the run for years, and when they claimed to have killed him, they couldn't produce any evidence apart from ambiguous blood stains in a random house
    dear friend, this statement places you firmly on the lunatic fringe

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    (Original post by mariachi)
    dear friend, this statement places you firmly on the lunatic fringe

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    What was that about offensive remarks?

    I would ask you to explain this post. I referred to Osama as a lunatic (heck, he blew up quite a few people), questioned FCI's amazement at USA's competence when they couldn't find Osama for so long, and then expressed disagreement with the so called 'proof' of his demise.

    Please explain
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    (Original post by ash92:))
    (I) expressed disagreement with the so called 'proof' of his demise.

    Please explain
    there is no doubt at all that OBL is dead, and that he was killed by the US in Abbottabad

    experience should tell you that it is impossible to keep a secret when more than a handful of people are involved - and least of all in the US, where any information with any political relevance is systematically leaked to the press

    the possibility for the US Administration to make up a fake operation are exactly zero

    for this reason, you are firmly situated on the lunatic fringe : of course, it is - as usual - a somehow crowded location
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    (Original post by mariachi)
    there is no doubt at all that OBL is dead, and that he was killed by the US in Abbottabad

    experience should tell you that it is impossible to keep a secret when more than a handful of people are involved - and least of all in the US, where any information with any political relevance is systematically leaked to the press

    the possibility for the US Administration to make up a fake operation are exactly zero

    for this reason, you are firmly situated on the lunatic fringe : of course, it is - as usual - a somehow crowded location
    He most probably is dead. But to say with conviction that he was killed in abbottabad is taking a leap too far.

    Any reasoning claiming to be absolute in support of osama's killing at that particular incident is flimsy, and without undeniable evidence.

    Indeed, I find it strange how anyone can deny the most minute spec of suspicion in the fact that there was no photographical evidence, and that they dumped his body in the sea, or whatever, straight away. Nor were there public eye witness accounts.


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    I would say it was patently obvious why he was thrown in the sea
    because the yanks did not want Moslems making a pilgrimage out of his
    graveside ergo making him a martyr for all time. As for photographs get real
    that would be inciiting fanatical Moslems to use this to recruit young impressionable minds etc.
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    (Original post by ash92:))
    Ah yes, how very true and highly probable - Pakistan has been funding terrorists, which then complete training to kill members of the Pakistani public. :
    I think this is the irony that is over your head- we KNOW pakistan has harboured terrorists for decades, it trained them in order further its own agendas in the kashmir region of india without having to enter a formal war with india.It also had close ties with the afgan taleban and therefore support to all affiliated isla ist groups such as al queda. America knew this, we knew this, Interpol knoew this etc. However pakistan, as you mention below have played a supposed two faced subservient role toward west and america, they know if they openly threated the west with terrorists, like the taleban did, they would suffer the same fate as iraq and afganistan. The laughable irony now is, usa have turned up on their doorstep, and the terrorsits that pakistan once appeased, are now attacking pakistan for not standing up to america. Its is really a story of just desserts.
    (Original post by ash92:))
    The last president was also general of the army, he didn't need terrorists, as his specialist forces were adequate. :
    Adequtate for what? pakistans only real military motives were border disputes with india and china, they have been flattened in wars with india, and wouldnt have the balls to argue with china. 'covert' islamists was their logical outlet.
    (Original post by ash92:))
    The current President killed his own wife for money and power. He continues to ass-lick the American government for more money, and was declared as being richer than the Queen about a year and a half ago. :
    corrpution in pakistan is nothing to do with usa, its an internal characteristic of paksitan (and afganistan, saudi etc btw). corrupt politicians, as well as islamists assasinate people there (see bhuttos murder too). It is a place full of deceit it seems, but ultimatley its still a moslem country, that harbours islamists.
    (Original post by ash92:))
    But guess whatThe public can barely afford food, barely afford education, don't have electricity for the majority (if not the whole) of the day, and the system is (most likely) the most corrupt that history has ever seen. All this is despite the president being so rich, and the ridiculous amount of aid that goes to them. :
    Name me one islamic country that doesnt have massive poverty that isnt bankrolled by the oil they sit on (discovered by the West btw). What you say simply proves islam is breeding inequality and poverty. The only comparatively succesful economies in moslem world are in far east, where chinese, japanese and non moslem asians have massive influence on the country. They alo have typically less islamist activity than islamic run countries in west asia/mid-east/africa
    (Original post by ash92:))
    The individual charities do what they can, but there's only so much thy can do if the government doesn't co-operate. Some areas still don't have clean water to drink, and the healthcare is appauling. The whole situation makes me sick :
    .Many islamic charities are simply fronts for islamists- the birmingham trio islamists jailed collected hundred thousand off moslems for 'charity' So who is to blame ? I wouldnt trust an islamic charity as far as i could throw one, there are western charities that go give aid in moslem countires, but even they end up being attacked and kidnapped by islamists.
    (Original post by ash92:))
    Ah yes, USA knows about their two-faced nature, which is why they continue to give the government more money. USA had the ability to track bin Laden? lol, they were no match for the lunatic. He was on the run for years, and when they claimed to have killed him, they couldn't produce any evidence apart from ambiguous blood stains in a random house. It's all a guise to control the country, I'm guessing you don't know a thing about ramon davis who was all over the Pakistani news channels, either? :yep: :clap2: :
    now you are just randomly ranting.
    (Original post by ash92:))
    Whereas the arrested terrorists go, if they have been trialed and proven guilty adequately, then they should kill the ******** to stop it happening again. They obviously had not the sense to realise that they would be killing Muslims, especially since it was to be done in Birmingham. Either they are severely mentally retarded, or something isn't right here. :
    islamic countries dont kill terroists, or barely trial them, unless forced to by the West. USA kills more terrorists than any islamic country, which tells you soemthing about moslem motivation. West catches far more plotting terroists, simply becuase we are focussed to do so, we have border force, inteelgnece agencies and police set aside to monitor potential islamst activity and have foiled socres of plots. usually moslems that show suspcious behaviour and often travelling to pakistan can pose risk of islamist training and are often tracked. This is what helps us arresst people and it shoudl be extended, Islamic countries dont do any of this, despite being the hub is islamist activity. Why? becuase they arnt genuinely motivated to attack islamists. This whole thread does in fact illustrates moslem attidue to terroism, and your comments - most moslems here again have not condemned islamists, they instead whinge about USA. You above mention the arressted islamists in birmingham becuase "they would be killing Muslims", what about the non moslems they would have killed? Shows your warped bias. Why should the world care about usas foreign policy when eveyday moslems have no care for non moslems, or their islamists attacking civilians. It is frankly a dark charateritstic you portray.The thread asked " Why are Muslim's portrayed as terrorist's in today's society?" - clearly big part of the probably is the attitude of islam, it has a problem with islamsists it wants to ignore. Thats is why media reports on the reality.
    (Original post by ash92:))
    Are you listening to yourself? You claim that it is an Islamic government, then when asked whether they go by Islam you say it has no relevance? Get a hold of yourself.I claimed Pakistanis aren't muslims? Oh, did I do this by telepathy as well now? There are many genuine muslims in Pakistan, but to say that the government is Islamic is just making a fool of yourself. You've obviously not ever seen anything about the Pakistani government, then :rolleyes: :
    It is a moslem run countries, it has islamic laws, and it is more isalmic than say switzerland isnt it? Now tell me which country has bigger problem breeding islamists, switzerland or pakistan?
    (Original post by ash92:))
    Ah, lovely. You can't argue the point so attempt to divert to the moon landings, which I mentioned nothing about. False argument. Well done :clap2: :
    no, just pointing out the childish conspiracy theories come out when your argument is disproved.
    (Original post by ash92:))
    btw you are from the UK? :zomg: I thought you were American because of your seemingly patriotic nature defending America :lol:
    you are talking about afganistan, are you afgani? what relevance is that?i havent defended usa in any scentecne, i have said they have responded to islamist threats, which any country will do. You are the one defending islamists.
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    (Original post by ash92:))
    He most probably is dead. But to say with conviction that he was killed in abbottabad is taking a leap too far. Any reasoning claiming to be absolute in support of osama's killing at that particular incident is flimsy, and without undeniable evidence. Indeed, I find it strange how anyone can deny the most minute spec of suspicion in the fact that there was no photographical evidence, and that they dumped his body in the sea, or whatever, straight away. Nor were there public eye witness accounts. This was posted from The Student Room's iPhone/iPad App
    why would usa fly helicopters into paksitan and blow one up in abbotabad if bin laden wasnt there? why implicate thier own 'ally in war on terror' if it werent actualy true?lol at conspiracay theorists to put 2 and 2 together and get 15
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    (Original post by Mazy95)
    You're the one who ignored everything I said..
    no was waiting for you to come to terms with the fact that islamists kill more people than any american soldier - and hear whether you still support islamists after this.
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    It's only due to lack of education and knowledge amongst the general public and high levels of corruption in the media. The message of Islam is sometimes portrayed in levels of extremity which also cast a shadow upon the religion. Im a muslim myself and I know that Islam is a religion of peace..its just that some believers don't interpret words in the Holy Qur'an in the correct way. If there is one person who commits a crime, it doesn't mean the whole of humanity should be considered as criminals!
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    (Original post by Mazy95)
    They are traitors because they are puppets of the West and do whatever they want them to. Including killing.
    What freedom of speech? Where people like Julian Assange have to hide because they exposed the government or people like Bradley Manning get put on trial/convicted for leaking information about Western war crimes instead of the actual perpetrators of those crimes..
    You can say anything bad about Muslims in your countries but I dare you to shout out against Jews or Israel in public.
    I agree about USA being everywhere but if these country's stopped asking the west to interfere because their own system doesnt work, millions end up in refugee camps, and it's the refugees that appeal to the West for sanctuary and billions in aid, your incapable of sorting out your own problems without displacing millions of people and you don't give a **** cos you know that foreign aid will sort out the **** you've created. Old saying in western culture" can't have your cake and eat it as well"
    As for you talking about "Jews " they have been a persecuted race for 1500 years and your. The proof that they still are
 
 
 
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