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    (Original post by euphful)
    Racist, homophobic bigots
    What a bigoted statement.
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    (Original post by Steevee)
    You honestly think the Greens could ever 'surge' in the polls? They're just as unelectable as the bloomin' BNP!
    I'm not old enough to vote yet, though when I do I shall be proud to call myself a Green. Personally, I don't believe somebody should not vote for someone because they are unlikely to win - it defeats the whole point of democracy.

    Vote and Hope.
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    The usual suspects are terrified of UKIP's rise in popularity among the electorate. They are responding in the only way they know: repeatedly shout out "racist" and "homophobic" whilst rarely making valid arguments. Their moronic rhetoric is not working, however: UKIP continue to rise, and saying "but UKIP are racist" over and over again isn't going to convince the electorate I'm afraid.
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    (Original post by euphful)

    I don't need to look any further than the kinds of people UKIP allies itself to in Europe to know they are fundamentally racist and homophobic in nature- they may put a middle class spin on it that the BNP can't quite manage to do, but the essence is still true- they're racist homophobes.


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    All of the groupings in the European Parliament contain parties who have senior members who have made racist and homophobic comments. This includes the groups that Labour and the Lib Dems belong to. Entering alliances with people you don't like is an unfortunate necessity due to the way the EU is set up. Other parties can't claim any moral superiority over UKIP in this respect.
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    (Original post by Redolent)
    I'm not a socialist. I've literally had to state this three times in the last two days because you guys love your strawman arguments so much.

    They are socially authoritarian as evidenced by their lack of support for changing the gay marriage law and their attitudes towards things like capital punishment. They want to double the prison population. I don't think I've heard an awful lot of talk coming from them about the need to legalise drugs either.

    lmao ukip are not authoritarian. You seem to have only seen what you want to see in their policies and ignored the rest.
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    (Original post by Joeman560)
    lmao ukip are not authoritarian. You seem to have only seen what you want to see in their policies and ignored the rest.
    They're not libertarian either. If they were libertarian the discrepancies I just highlighted wouldn't be there.
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    (Original post by Mr Faust)
    I'm not old enough to vote yet, though when I do I shall be proud to call myself a Green. Personally, I don't believe somebody should not vote for someone because they are unlikely to win - it defeats the whole point of democracy.

    Vote and Hope.
    What is it you like about them?
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    (Original post by Joeman560)
    lmao ukip are not authoritarian. You seem to have only seen what you want to see in their policies and ignored the rest.
    So he's made that chart up himself?
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    (Original post by Arnob204)
    What is it you like about them?
    The environment and Green Energy should be paramount in such a precarious time for the globe, and for the future of our generations. I find it appalling that other parties are shoving this problem to the back of the file. As a Left-Winger, I've also lost a lot of respect for Labour and the Liberal Democrats are a joke nowadays. Labour seem to be full of champagne Conservatives. UKIP and the BNP are just a bunch of Little Englander's who pry on the gullible to promote themselves. UKIP's main point in their manifesto is leaving the EU, which is based on an illusion that it's better to go alone - don't get me started on immigration.
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    (Original post by jtyne)
    You sound like you live in a fantasy world where immigration is always good, homosexuality values need to be instilled and those value creating (I.e. the rich) are evil people who need to be punished with taxes, the noble poor people need to be helped and this help will elevate them not encourage more poverty, and a functioning society does not really matter as long as you have the right dogmas which are equality and the tolerance of everything.


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    Don't you get tired of saying the same old thing over and over again for months on end?
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    Populists who will never get into Government and they live in a fantasy world, not reality
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    (Original post by meenu89)
    How are the 'Greens' libertarian?
    They're Libertarian in social matters. The political compass defines Libertarian/Authoritarian axis socially and the Left/Right one economically.
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    This is a Party that is spouting loads of BS and the electorate are voting for these nutters. Here is an example: The EU is connected to the ECHR. NO IT IS NOT because the Council of Europe is a completely separate institution than the EU
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    (Original post by Arnob204)
    Please do. You mean to say that you'd like more or less of it?
    I don't want multiculturalism and equal opportunities to be replaced with racism and cultural ignorance.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    So he's made that chart up himself?
    I wasn't aware that sticking a dot on a chart proves anything.
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    (Original post by Mr Faust)
    I don't want multiculturalism and equal opportunities to be replaced with racism and cultural ignorance.
    Who's said they are?

    Incidentally, even the PC Germans admit that MultiCulturalism hasn't worked

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...alism-failures

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11559451

    So I don't know what point you're trying to make.
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    (Original post by Mr Faust)
    I don't want multiculturalism and equal opportunities to be replaced with racism and cultural ignorance.
    Cultural ignorance? the hypocrisy on this forum is to dam high!
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    (Original post by Mr Faust)
    The environment and Green Energy should be paramount in such a precarious time for the globe, and for the future of our generations. I find it appalling that other parties are shoving this problem to the back of the file. As a Left-Winger, I've also lost a lot of respect for Labour and the Liberal Democrats are a joke nowadays. Labour seem to be full of champagne Conservatives. UKIP and the BNP are just a bunch of Little Englander's who pry on the gullible to promote themselves. UKIP's main point in their manifesto is leaving the EU, which is based on an illusion that it's better to go alone - don't get me started on immigration.
    I can tell you're not old enough to vote; thank God. You have a lot of growing up to do based on that left wing vitriol.
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    (Original post by Mr Faust)
    I don't want multiculturalism and equal opportunities to be replaced with racism and cultural ignorance.
    It isn't racist to control your borders you snot-nosed, socialist brat. Multiculturalism is cultural ignorance of the indigenous culture. Try living in a town where this Marxist failure has been tried and you'll soon snap out of your left-wing induced coma.
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    (Original post by Barksy)
    It isn't racist to control your borders you snot-nosed, socialist brat. Multiculturalism is cultural ignorance of the indigenous culture. Try living in a town where this Marxist failure has been tried and you'll soon snap out of your left-wing induced coma.
    I wish I could rep you for that one, that made me laugh. Best comeback I've seen all week!
 
 
 
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