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    (Original post by a729)
    I know it VERY well thank you.

    You clearly haven't been to Southwark -only a bus ride away and full of (infamous) estates
    What makes you think I've never been to Southwark?
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    (Original post by a729)
    There will always be people who will need to leave Westminster to go to more affordable accommodation

    The same with Hammersmith & Fulham
    Yes. Because of right to buy. Not to mention Dame Shirley Porter's antics in the 80's.
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    (Original post by a729)
    I know! The only people who escape income tax and VAT totally are the criminals-the irony!
    What kind of income do most prisoners have? What do you think, will billing them after their release help them start a new life or will they resort to drug dealing/burglaries/fraud etc. again in order to pay this bill?

    Most of the rest of the manifesto seems fine.
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    (Original post by a729)
    We can have the best of both - re-entering the most profitable manufacturing opportunities ie train making and aviation - 2 industries we were world leaders in
    And how do you suggest we do that?
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    Going to pick at a few points. Hopefully answer them more constructively than others.

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    I think the UK should leave the EU and trade more with the dynamic economies of the commonwealth
    I agree. However much we get in trade discounts et cetera, doesn't equate to what we put it (all our our gold reserves, for instance). However, we have nothing to offer the Commonwealth. When we were an Empire, we controlled foreign economies, led them technologically, and made money from them. Now, we are a small island without our brand of quality manufacturing (which is impossible to re-obtain, presently).

    Our once most profitable asset, India, now wants little to do with us, and Australia, South Africa and Canada have their own deals. So, to leave the EU would be to adopt isolationism, which would be unfeasible, as we can't even feed ourselves. This, in my opinion, cannot be amended due to our population crisis. It can, however, have less of a future impact if there is a stricter immigration policy.

    Of course, we would have a little more in pocket. And at present, I think that's what we need. It's at least slightly less unfeasible. I agree, but we'll have to beg for new trade deals until we can start conquering the world again with redcoats.*

    The EU wants to fine London for breaching pollution limits-this is utter madness and an abomination to UK sovereignty!
    Emotive language makes for a preacher, not a politician. Indeed, we should not be taxed, nor should we (I agree) be in the EU. However, our sovereign has little to do with that.

    Require prisoners to post a sum of money like they do to get bail when they apply for parole -so if they re offend they no only lose their freedom,they lose there money
    Similar to an act of attainder, but without the treason. It won't work because many prisoners rely on the benefits system. Instead, why not introduce welfare cuts on those with multiple convictions?

    I agree in personal freedom and do NOT support ID cards or excessive monitoring of people- I think Britain has more than enough CCTV (we have the most per head in the world)
    This isn't 1984. CCTV is a necessary evil for solving crimes.

    Raise tax on alcohol -as this fuels so much crime (think drink-drivers,binge drinkers and think of how horrible night buses are because of all the drunks!)
    Bars and pubs contribute to the taxable economy too much to face any sort of deterrent. Let 'em spend!

    We should no be in Iraq and should avoid war at all costs-though we should have a decent military capable of defending our small island nation.
    Luckily for you, we're not in Iraq. Pulling out of our current postings would reduce the need for an army, especially since we're under no threat. If you wanted to be assured of our defenses, perhaps bigger advertising and incentive campaigns for the (volunteer) Territorial Army would be better.

    Utilise gas in Northern England to revive that area
    Revive British manufacturing
    Lower NI contributions by employers to encourage employment
    Pay down the national debt
    In a perfect world...

    My Golden rule would be :
    Money spent by government ≤ Money raised via taxes
    Live within our means!
    You propose increasing the army and improving the NHS. Taxes won't do that alone, you would have to spend billions from your own pocket. In addition: it is now impossible to live within our means. We're over-populated to the extent that we cannot produce enough food, as I previously said- it has to be imported.

    These things said. You couldn't possibly be any worse than Clegg. Go for it El Presidento.

    *The sun has unfortunately set on our Empire.
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    (Original post by Sir Fox)
    What kind of income do most prisoners have? What do you think, will billing them after their release help them start a new life or will they resort to drug dealing/burglaries/fraud etc. again in order to pay this bill?

    Most of the rest of the manifesto seems fine.
    In terms of assets they already hold - if you steal from someone you deserve to be fined to compensate the victim
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    (Original post by Izzyeviel)
    And how do you suggest we do that?
    Not giving multi-billion train building contracts to foreign companies
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    (Original post by a729)
    Not giving multi-billion train building contracts to foreign companies
    So in other words, you don't believe in right wing economics?
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    (Original post by phantasmagorical)
    Going to pick at a few points. Hopefully answer them more constructively than others.



    I agree. However much we get in trade discounts et cetera, doesn't equate to what we put it (all our our gold reserves, for instance). However, we have nothing to offer the Commonwealth. When we were an Empire, we controlled foreign economies, led them technologically, and made money from them. Now, we are a small island without our brand of quality manufacturing (which is impossible to re-obtain, presently).

    Our once most profitable asset, India, now wants little to do with us, and Australia, South Africa and Canada have their own deals. So, to leave the EU would be to adopt isolationism, which would be unfeasible, as we can't even feed ourselves. This, in my opinion, cannot be amended due to our population crisis. It can, however, have less of a future impact if there is a stricter immigration policy.

    We don't need to fund the EU to trade with it-that's what the WTO is for !
    Of course, we would have a little more in pocket. And at present, I think that's what we need. It's at least slightly less unfeasible. I agree, but we'll have to beg for new trade deals until we can start conquering the world again with redcoats.*



    Emotive language makes for a preacher, not a politician. Indeed, we should not be taxed, nor should we (I agree) be in the EU. However, our sovereign has little to do with that.



    Similar to an act of attainder, but without the treason. It won't work because many prisoners rely on the benefits system. Instead, why not introduce welfare cuts on those with multiple convictions?

    That would be a natural extension of my idea just in a similar way to parents who don't pay child support can have their driving licence confiscated

    This isn't 1984. CCTV is a necessary evil for solving crimes.

    Under labour and it's ID cards it could end up being


    Bars and pubs contribute to the taxable economy too much to face any sort of deterrent. Let 'em spend!

    But people who suffer from alcohol induced illness and violence and deaths due to drinking (i.e drink driving,etc.) takes a lot of the economy

    Luckily for you, we're not in Iraq. Pulling out of our current postings would reduce the need for an army, especially since we're under no threat. If you wanted to be assured of our defenses, perhaps bigger advertising and incentive campaigns for the (volunteer) Territorial Army would be better.



    In a perfect world...



    You propose increasing the army and improving the NHS. Taxes won't do that alone, you would have to spend billions from your own pocket. In addition: it is now impossible to live within our means. We're over-populated to the extent that we cannot produce enough food, as I previously said- it has to be imported.
    I proposed maintaining our current ability not increasing spending- I don't the UK spending as high a % of GDP as US does on it's military
    These things said. You couldn't possibly be any worse than Clegg. Go for it El Presidento.

    Loool thanks for the lukewarm vote of confidence!
    *The sun has unfortunately set on our Empire.
    But not on the cultural empire through the English language and law which has helped mould many other countries

    The Queen is still head of State of Canada and Australia and other countries so we could definitely squeeze some trade deals out of those countries!
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    (Original post by Izzyeviel)
    So in other words, you don't believe in right wing economics?
    You give the contract to UK based companies where possible to ensure that you claim back some money via corporation tax
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    (Original post by Sir Fox)
    What kind of income do most prisoners have? What do you think, will billing them after their release help them start a new life or will they resort to drug dealing/burglaries/fraud etc. again in order to pay this bill?

    Most of the rest of the manifesto seems fine.
    they wouldn't if prison was a place that people HATED to go
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    (Original post by a729)
    But not on the cultural empire through the English language and law which has helped mould many other countries

    The Queen is still head of State of Canada and Australia and other countries so we could definitely squeeze some trade deals out of those countries!
    Just like how the Eastern Bloc used to work.

    OP Are you sure you're as right wing as you say you are? Sure you're not left or centre?
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    (Original post by Izzyeviel)
    Just like how the Eastern Bloc used to work.

    OP Are you sure you're as right wing as you say you are? Sure you're not left or centre?
    We could negotiate with them using our cultural links

    I'm a pragmatist and I tend to the right

    I don't see how the USSR could be any form of comparison?
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    (Original post by a729)
    You give the contract to UK based companies where possible to ensure that you claim back some money via corporation tax
    Right wing = capitalism.

    What you're describing isn't capitalist. Sounds more socialist or nationalist. A true right wing person would be wanting to increase competition to ensure that Britain gets the best price as possible.

    You want Britain to focus on manufacturing again (which is what we all want) Using your example of trains as an example, where are you going to get the people who build the trains from? There's a Bombardier factory in Derby, but I doubt they have the capacity to build trains on a large scale. Where are we going to get the rest of the train builders from?

    You do know why Britain has little manufacturing these day? Maggie, and guess what? She was subscribing to Reagonomics. Neoliberalism. In your other posts that's what you want us to return to.
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    (Original post by a729)
    We could negotiate with them using our cultural links

    I'm a pragmatist and I tend to the right

    I don't see how the USSR could be any form of comparison?
    The Eastern Bloc used their 'cultural links' to trade with one another.
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    (Original post by Kibalchich)
    Yes. Because of right to buy. Not to mention Dame Shirley Porter's antics in the 80's.
    Not really even without that there would be a lack of council properties
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    (Original post by Izzyeviel)
    The Eastern Bloc used their 'cultural links' to trade with one another.
    The USSR used military control to enforce their rule

    How is that similar?

    I'm talking about free trade and you compare it to the USSR?

    Are you all right?
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    (Original post by Izzyeviel)
    Right wing = capitalism.

    What you're describing isn't capitalist. Sounds more socialist or nationalist. A true right wing person would be wanting to increase competition to ensure that Britain gets the best price as possible.

    You want Britain to focus on manufacturing again (which is what we all want) Using your example of trains as an example, where are you going to get the people who build the trains from? There's a Bombardier factory in Derby, but I doubt they have the capacity to build trains on a large scale. Where are we going to get the rest of the train builders from?

    You do know why Britain has little manufacturing these day? Maggie, and guess what? She was subscribing to Reagonomics. Neoliberalism. In your other posts that's what you want us to return to.

    We can train the many unemployed young people to be skilled engineers. Obvious really

    This country is not short of labour at all

    Job vacancies are routinely inaudanted with applications
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    (Original post by a729)
    The USSR used military control to enforce their rule

    How is that similar?

    I'm talking about free trade and you compare it to the USSR?

    Are you all right?
    You are most definitely not talking about free trade. Free trade is trading with no restrictions with anyone. You're talking about trade restrictions. Just like how the Eastern Bloc used to operate.
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    (Original post by a729)
    We can train the many unemployed young people to be skilled engineers. Obvious really

    This country is not short of labour at all

    Job vacancies are routinely inaudanted with applications
    Building a train is not like assembling furniture from Ikea. (although some would claim otherwise)

    You need people with skills and training and expertise, it takes years to develop. Doesn't matter if there's 1 or 10 million people waiting for a job, if they don't know how to build a train then they're not going to be useful.
 
 
 
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