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    (Original post by ed-)
    It's funny how everyone turns to caveman principles as soon as something bad happens.
    I've always held these beliefs and I believe they are the solution for people like the person in question.



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    (Original post by Hummi_C)
    Gets locked up in our prisons? That really isn't that bad, prison isn't what it used to be, it's just like having a shabby apartment :/

    And OP, I agree with the comments, there's nothing stupid there...
    Getting locked up in a cell for most of the day and having every aspect of your life controlled for life isnt that bad? Okay some prisons abroad are much stricter in comparison but that doesnt make UK prisons not that bad.
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    terrible and sad only 16.
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    (Original post by ed-)
    You're an idiot.
    If you want a better response maybe you should have elaborated.



    It's funny how everyone turns to caveman principles as soon as something bad happens.


    Actually, you are an idiot. A smug self satisfied one.
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    (Original post by College_Dropout)
    Getting locked up in a cell for most of the day and having every aspect of your life controlled for life isnt that bad? Okay some prisons abroad are much stricter in comparison but that doesnt make UK prisons not that bad.
    Okay let's say this guy is having massive financial problems, can't get a roof over his head and can't afford food.. In our prisons, you get 3 square meals a day, and sit in a centrally heated room. Fair enough you can't go out and would be bored a lot of the time, but boredom is hardly an apt punishment for stabbing an innocent girl!
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    (Original post by Hummi_C)
    Okay let's say this guy is having massive financial problems, can't get a roof over his head and can't afford food.. In our prisons, you get 3 square meals a day, and sit in a centrally heated room. Fair enough you can't go out and would be bored a lot of the time, but boredom is hardly an apt punishment for stabbing an innocent girl!


    Damn right. Singapore has one of the lowest crime rates in the world and it has a mandatory capital punishment policy.
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    (Original post by rolos12345)
    Actually, you are an idiot. A smug self satisfied one.
    I prefer logical...
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    (Original post by Hummi_C)
    Okay let's say this guy is having massive financial problems, can't get a roof over his head and can't afford food.. In our prisons, you get 3 square meals a day, and sit in a centrally heated room. Fair enough you can't go out and would be bored a lot of the time, but boredom is hardly an apt punishment for stabbing an innocent girl!
    So starving and freezing them to death would be apt punishment? Say if this guy is a millionaire with a mansion and eats at top restaurants everyday?
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    The 100yds between where he killed her and where they found him...I road my bike through that bit during the time they was after him(basically a bunch of underpasses)...there was no police around apart from they had blocked the road off. Seems a bit strange looking back.
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    Utterly disgusting piece of trash deserves torture.

    RIP you poor innocent girl
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    The man has been sectioned under the mental health act. I thought he might have been a mental illness sufferer when they found him right near the scene of the crime.

    Tragic case of wrong place at the wrong time and questions need to be asked about how the man slipped through the relevant authorities nets.
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    (Original post by original_username)
    The man has been sectioned under the mental health act. I thought he might have been a mental illness sufferer when they found him right near the scene of the crime.

    Tragic case of wrong place at the wrong time and questions need to be asked about how the man slipped through the relevant authorities nets.
    He is the right age (just about) to be someone with first-onset psychosis. In which case, it is very possible he had no contact with medical, psychiatric or legal services whatsoever.

    Unfortunately the nets don't (and can't) cover all young people who may develop psychosis. Unless someone's family/friends can pick up on the changes and refer them, a lot of people become frankly psychotic before being picked up (by the police) for unusual behaviour in a public place / reports from neighbours etc. NOTE: it is extremely rare for someone to present with violent behaviour, it's just very unlucky for an individual (and anyone they hurt) if this is the way their psychosis takes them.

    I think if this person is psychotic, it is important to remember how clouded and confused they might be, and the sort of horrible delusions, thought distortions and hallucinations they might be experiencing which drive their behaviour.

    Although this person might not have such an extenuating psychosis, at this stage keeping an open mind is best, imo.
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    (Original post by Pigling)
    He is the right age (just about) to be someone with first-onset psychosis. In which case, it is very possible he had no contact with medical, psychiatric or legal services whatsoever.

    Unfortunately the nets don't (and can't) cover all young people who may develop psychosis. Unless someone's family/friends can pick up on the changes and refer them, a lot of people become frankly psychotic before being picked up (by the police) for unusual behaviour in a public place / reports from neighbours etc. NOTE: it is extremely rare for someone to present with violent behaviour, it's just very unlucky for an individual (and anyone they hurt) if this is the way their psychosis takes them.

    I think if this person is psychotic, it is important to remember how clouded and confused they might be, and the sort of horrible delusions, thought distortions and hallucinations they might be experiencing which drive their behaviour.

    Although this person might not have such an extenuating psychosis, at this stage keeping an open mind is best, imo.
    Completely agree with all of that.

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    (Original post by original_username)
    Completely agree with all of that
    I thought you would as I agreed with your post :p:
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    love to hear how liberals defend this
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    (Original post by Jareth)
    Just another white victim of diversity along with even more Asian grooming rings
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ma...-grooming-rape
    What has being severely mental ill, as the perpetrator was in this case (he has now been sectioned) got to do with race?
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    It's ok goooooooooooooooise, he will get rehabilitation in prison and when he comes out he will be a happy member of society.
    /leftardism.
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    (Original post by Jack93o)
    love to hear how liberals defend this
    It isn't a case of being "liberal" but of having a basic understanding of mental health. If you think you couldn't develop psychosis then you are wrong.
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    (Original post by Dirac Delta Function)
    It's ok goooooooooooooooise, he will get rehabilitation in prison and when he comes out he will be a happy member of society.
    /leftardism.
    I am not aware of this viewpoint being expressed by anyone, anywhere. Please provide a quotation.
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    (Original post by Rock Fan)
    I hate to say it but I bet he gets a soft sentence and will be out within a year or two.
    LOL

    Do you know anything about murders and sentencing?

    Murder = mandatory life sentence
 
 
 
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