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    Hi guys, what is everyone's opinion on the British National Party?

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    (Original post by JediArron)
    Hi guys, what is everyone's opinion on the British National Party?
    Very positive. I think that they are the good guys promoting freedom and libertarian ideas, honesty and the idea that a country keeps to its own character, as opposed to being obliterated by a globalist order and mass immigration. The British establishment is build on a house of cards and lies and people hate certain people for no reason except that the controlled mass media told them to hate them and are prepared to go to war. The BNP are on the side of good not lies and deceit.

    While I am more right wing than left wing, I recognise that left and right are just the cutlery not the food on the plate that is being eaten. The BNP has some left wing tendencies some of which are useful to getting Britain's unemployed population back to work and some are OTT but I support their honest overall position.

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    (Original post by jtyne)
    Very positive. I think that they are the good guys promoting freedom and libertarian ideas, honesty and the idea that a country keeps to its own character, as opposed to being obliterated by a globalist order and mass immigration. The British establishment is build on a house of cards and lies and people hate certain people for no reason except that the controlled mass media told them to hate them and are prepared to go to war. The BNP are on the side of good not lies and deceit.

    While I am more right wing than left wing, I recognise that left and right are just the cutlery not the food on the plate that is being eaten. The BNP has some left wing tendencies some of which are useful to getting Britain's unemployed population back to work and some are OTT but I support their honest overall position.

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    What is the BNP's policies on people who have been born and raised here and lived here all their life?
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    (Original post by HumanSupremacist)
    What is the BNP's policies on people who have been born and raised here and lived here all their life?
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/immigration


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    (Original post by jtyne)
    Very positive. I think that they are the good guys promoting freedom and libertarian ideas, honesty and the idea that a country keeps to its own character, as opposed to being obliterated by a globalist order and mass immigration. The British establishment is build on a house of cards and lies and people hate certain people for no reason except that the controlled mass media told them to hate them and are prepared to go to war. The BNP are on the side of good not lies and deceit.

    While I am more right wing than left wing, I recognise that left and right are just the cutlery not the food on the plate that is being eaten. The BNP has some left wing tendencies some of which are useful to getting Britain's unemployed population back to work and some are OTT but I support their honest overall position.

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    Are you sure about that? I might be wrong but i don't see many particularly libertarian policies coming from them. Most of their ideology comes across as highly statist and authoritarian to me.
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    (Original post by Greenlaner)
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    Are you sure about that? I might be wrong but i don't see many particularly libertarian policies coming from them. Most of their ideology comes across as highly statist and authoritarian to me.
    When Nick Griffin says stop the State from using what he calls "cultural Marxist" ideas of equality to dictate what people must do, or marry or hire or allow into the country, he says allow people to make their own choice. If someone wants to only have white British people in their property then let them. If pub landlords want to allow smoking then let them. These is in my opinion a libertarian streak here.


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    My pretty massive rebuttal to all their policies

    From here:
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...5#post39956775

    (Copied and pasted)

    Ill tell you what I have problems with. Ill go through their policies, one by one

    Before I even go in to their policies, know that their policies are just a cover for the policies that they haven't told us. In short, it's propaganda



    Now on to their "policies"

    Manifesto

    • Mentions "immigration invasion" It's not an invasion if people are immigrating legally and with permission. Thats hyperbole right there
    • It talks about "restoring British industry" It's no secret that the BNP panders to the working class, and sorry but those industries are gone and are just not economical in this country.
    Why prop up uneconomical industries, when the gov't is pumping money in to high tech industries?
    • Democracy is supposedly under threat from the EU and by immigration. How so?
    • It talks about fears of jobs being transferred to the "Third world" Sorry, but it was the West who helped push those jobs to the far east, and it's not economical to get those jobs here. If we do, the jobs will be done by machines. Your average person won't notice the difference
    • It talks about colonisation and in the same sentence, they imply that the UK is somehow being colonised. Immigration =/= colonisation
    • They mention why they use certain words. That just shows the calibre of the people that vote BNP
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/manifesto


    Crime & Justice

    • What the hell is a "politically correct straight jacket"
    • In that same sentence, it seems like they want the "good old days" of "P*** bashing, Black bashing" etc...
    • Rights of criminals, and victims. Semi agree. On the one hand, part of me says stick it to the criminal, and to punish them for the max available.On the other hand, you just have to look at the Nordic countries and know that people that go in, don't keep going in etc.. (It's also cheaper)
    • Reintroducing corporal punishments for petty criminals and vandals. Why? I can understand why someone might want something like that or even capital punishment for murderers, but for vandals, it just seems a bit pointless
    • Lol at "social welfare dependance" supposedly "encouraged by disastrous Tory and Labour policies" - both these parties don't like that. It costs money. That's the bottom line
    • Most BNP supporters are working class, and more likely to be on the dole. That's just telling your voters, we don't really give a damn about you. On the plus side, at least they're being honest about it
    • Oh I do love the bit where he anthropomorphises buildings. Apparently buildings can be socialist
    • He wants "decent houses" Wheres the money going to come from?
    • The bit about "non indigenous crime" and it being dealt with as part of their "immigration and identity" policy is scary if you watch the above clip. That's very vague. Why not have the same thing for "indigenous" crime?
    • Lol at freeing 70% of the prison population by deporting the foreign criminals. Where's their source for that?
    • Putting police back on the street, and removing politically correct shackles. What? They'll patrol places that need them ie: high crime areas. I see them quite regularly in my home town, but not so much in my uni town. It makes economic sense
    • Police serving government. Shock horror. Of course, the police will serve the government. They are public sector workers.What's a "real criminal" The whole thing is very vague
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/crime_justice

    Democracy
    • The British invented modern democracy? I think that award goes to the French for overthrowing their monarchy and giving the will to the people. Even today, Britain is a "constitutional monarchy"
    • People have been denied their rights? The only rights I can see that have been curbed are those on freedom of speech ie: you can't be racist, sexist etc..
    • Democracy is absent? Really. I forgot that people were forced to vote for the Tories. Oh wait
    • What basic democratic rights have we been denied?
    • Power being devolved. Sounds nice, but unfortunately doesn't work so well in practise
    • Removing legal curbs on freedom of speech. There we go. That's the crux of it. They want to be racist, sexist etc...
    • Implementing a "Bill of rights" Fair enough, but why do we need it? Our laws are robust enough to already give us "fundamental freedoms"
    • Abolishing anti discrimination laws. Why?
    • Abolishing restrictions on freedom of speech. Why? AFAIK, the only real things that are restricted are racism, sexism etc... and most people simply aren't racist or sexist
    • Rejecting DNA samples of the innocent. Fair point, but that's hyperbole. The gov't does no such thing
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/democracy


    Economics
    • Initial post sounds absolutely pathetic. Our old industries just aren't economically viable any more. It makes no sense to prop up uneconomical industries
    • They call for manufacturing done in Britain by British workers etc... People just don't want to pay for that, and this is just protectionism. Protectionist policies do not work. If you want to look like the North Korea of Europe, go ahead
    • Unemployment will apparently be brought to an end by getting people on British manufacturing jobs - they make it sound like that's the only thing that helps the figures
    • A lot of our manufacturing is high tech/high end. That's not going to help Griffin's voters, who for the most part lack the education needed
    • They're going to restore economy by breaking up the giants. What?
    • Giving workers a stake at profits of big business. Sounds very communist like. Bad economics
    • Legislation that discriminates against White males. Source? There is no such thing.
    • What the hell is an "unfair foreign import"
    • Lol at increasing taxes on companies that outsource abroad. They'll jump ship and then you get nothing at all.
    • I've never actually heard of a married man's allowance, so no idea what that is
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/economics


    Education
    • Britain is still "up there" for education. Our universities are still world class. People greatly admire our education we have
    • Discipline has collapsed? Source? Also, notice how the schools in richer areas tend to do better for themselves, because people are simply willing to learn
    • Uni fees are hitting the poor hardest. That's BS. The poorest get the most amount of loans (I get the absolute max - I saved 2.5K, and I've put it in a savings account. I stand to make a tiny bit of profit on that amount - on the other amount, I obviously pay for it)
    • Has a point for "soft" subjects but arguably they're the ones that subsidise all the "hard" subjects. My course is very good value for money, considering what we get but if "soft" subjects were abandoned, then I can imagine it getting very pricey indeed
    • Uniforms - they exist.Don't know what planet they're on
    • O levels have been reintroduced. Also note how the BNP can't proof read their own site
    • Reintroduction of grammar schools - I went to one. Again, what planet are they on? They haven't all just been dismantled
    • Competitive sport - already happens
    • Daily Christian assemblies. Why, unless it's a CofE school?
    • Having maths that's practical in every day life. Every day maths for most people is if they get a C at GCSE. Why dumb maths down?
    • Teaching of British history - Our school did, and so do many others. It's just that we also have a world view at the same time. It makes us more knowledgeable about the world and not as ignorant as lots of American students
    • Improvement of school food - happens already
    • "Proper" Really? This is a political site, not some guy in a pub.
    • Racist neglect of White working class kids. What? If someone fails to put the work in, they fail. Simple as that. Nothing else to it
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/education


    Environment
    • Just made me lol. They seem very paranoid about the Greens
    • Immigration = destruction to environment? So, it's not the fact that 80% of the world's resources are used in 20% of the world, but because that guy from Zimbabwe decided to migrate to Britain. Sure about that?
    • Removal of power lines Wouldn't work in reality. People are selfish. They want both things. When they have no power, they are not going to be happy
    • Pushing supermarkets to go local. Many do, and we live in a free capitalist state. They are free to get them from wherever they can
    • Banning of "ritual slaughter without pre stunning" Most halal meat for instance is pre stunned, so that's hyperbole. Oh and wha's that got to do with the environment? Sounded like they wanted to have some Muslim bashing somewhere
    • Population is increasing entirely due to immigration. Really? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise that people are still having kids
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/environment


    Foreign policy

    • Our foreign policy IS determined by our own interests above all (except perhaps the Americans
    • Not quarrelling with nations that we have no interest in. That's what tend to happen. Notice how many Arab countries are "liberated" but other countries with worse situations arent?
    • Reaching an accord with the Muslim world to take back "excess population" Sounds like deportation for many Muslims just for having heritage from Muslim nations. And how the hell do you expect every one just to say "OK"?
    • So Britain says "Take all your Muslims back and we won't interfere" and then Griffin wants our foreign policy to serve us? Neither of those are in Britain's interests, economically speaking
    • I dunno about creating conflict. If the EU has done one thing that is good, is that it's created peace in Europe, where previously the continent has always been at war with itself
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/foreign-affairs


    Healthcare
    • The NHS is a laughing stock? Really? The NHS is absolutely amazing, is what it is. Yes it has inefficiencies and yes it could be improved, but it is in no way a laughing stock
    • Health tourists are being tackled
    • British doctors are unable to find work. Has he seen the stats for medicine. The lowest unemployment I've seen was 95%. 95%!
    • Contracting to cleaning companies, who employ "immigrants" doesn't mean that they're illegal. The NHS would most definitely have checks in place and the cleaning companies would be fined thousands if they were found employing illegal immigrants
    • Looting third world staff. Lol. They were offered a job and accepted. It's that simple
    • I also think Griffin hasn't grasped what "aid" is. Funnily enough, Britain had a field day when India rejected our "aid"
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/content/health


    Housing & Welfare

    • Foreigners come first. Really? It's not my fault if my Grandad spotted that house prices were rising substantially in the 80's and bought houses to rent etc...
    • Immediately given council homes. What? We own our house, and never have lived in a council home. I've never even been in one.
    • What the hell is the "immigration" and "asylum seeker" swindle? Those that are here illegally are deported. Simple as. There is no swindle
    Immigration
    • 14% of Britons don't have English as a mother tongue. So? They'll learn English at school. Technically speaking, my mother tongue isn't English but because I've became so fluent in English, and not really spoke my "native tongue" I've became far less fluent in that
    • Non indigenous births will soon account for more than half of all babies. Source?
    • Immigration will account for 40% of houses. Source?
    • Wait, they say 2.5 million are from the EU, with 3.7 million in total. Where did they get their 84% figure then?
    • 20% were born overseas. Source?
    • Drop two lines and that becomes 11%. Lol, more contradictions
    • Voluntary resettlement is apparently a £50K pay check. Not only would that bankrupt the UK, but over a lifetime that's abysmal
    • Positive discrimination =/= making White Briton's second class citizens.
    • They focus on what other countries do. We aren't other countries. At least compare our immigration policies to Western nations, not nations like Saudi Arabia, India etc...
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/immigration
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    (Original post by jtyne)
    When Nick Griffin says stop the State from using what he calls "cultural Marxist" ideas of equality to dictate what people must do, or marry or hire or allow into the country, he says allow people to make their own choice. If someone wants to only have white British people in their property then let them. If pub landlords want to allow smoking then let them. These is in my opinion a libertarian streak here.


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    So if I own a business, and I say I only want to hire Asian people, thats OK according to you?

    There are reasons we have these laws. It's to prevent racism. Stopping smoking in pubs is a step forwards in public health. I'd rather not smoke your second hand smoke
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    (Original post by de_monies)
    So if I own a business, and I say I only want to hire Asian people, thats OK according to you?

    There are reasons we have these laws. It's to prevent racism. Stopping smoking in pubs is a step forwards in public health. I'd rather not smoke your second hand smoke
    Many Indian restaurants do only hire Asian people.


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    (Original post by jtyne)
    Many Indian restaurants do only hire Asian people.


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    And many shops do only hire White people. It doesn't mean that the business refused people of other ethnicites. Just that they didn't get the job or didn't apply.

    Besides, afaik restaurants are a special case
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    I agree with the above. I read their policies once and almost every one (i thought) was stupid.

    Also, growing up in/near Bradford - I knew quite a few people who voted for them. Every person I met who voted for the BNP (or supported them at school) was a bully. They were the school thugs, who got in fights every other week and used to pick on anyone different. I never met a nice person who supported them.

    I don't know if its 'right', but that is going to make me much less supportive lol.
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    They may have one or two policies that are broadly libertarian (they don't like ID cards for instance) but libertarian they are not.

    They have loads of socially conservative policies - corporal and capital punishment, daily Christian assemblies! It's not explicitly in their manifesto but if you search for "gay marriage" on their website the results suggest they are not keen.

    Their economic policies are protectionist. They seem to think foreigners producing some stuff cheaper than we do is "unfair". Libertarianism is generally associated with free trade so all this localism stuff is also completely against the libertarian ethos. For anyone who has picked up an economics textbook, protectionism is also one of the best ways to totally **** your economy over.

    UKIP are generally less extreme but they too are hardly libertarian for the same reasons (socially conservative policies with a protectionist approach to the economy).

    However, I'd much rather they be allowed to say their piece (I don't think they ever veer into inciting violence) and have their arguments torn apart.

    It's funny how both UKIP and the BNP play the victim to the "Westminster establishment" and the "PPE posh boys". Given that neither of them seem to know what libertarian means, what comparative advantage is or how having totally inconsistent policies does not make a compelling argument, perhaps they could do with a bit of PPE!
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    (Original post by Hanvyj)
    I agree with the above. I read their policies once and almost every one (i thought) was stupid.

    Also, growing up in/near Bradford - I knew quite a few people who voted for them. Every person I met who voted for the BNP (or supported them at school) was a bully. They were the school thugs, who got in fights every other week and used to pick on anyone different. I never met a nice person who supported them.

    I don't know if its 'right', but that is going to make me much less supportive lol.
    It is frequently said that the BNP are thugs in suits. It comes part and parcel with their ideology of poorly hidden white supremacy (put forward as white nationalism through clever marketing, not that white nationalism is much of a defensible ideology either).


    Something people ought to remember about politicians is that actions speak louder than words, and although the BNP have developed an ability to occasionally sound like benign people simply concerned about immigration and rapid cultural change, underneath they are something much more sinister. Their rhetoric is similar to that used by the fascists and thugs throughout history, and all of them seemed like the good guys at first. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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    They are just a racist group of individuals who have fleshed out a party around those views. The rest of their manifesto is just popularist nonsense which wouldn't stand up to any really questioning. Which leaves their supporters in either the category of racist or idiot.
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    BNP + EDL = nutters.
    Though, I agree immigration does need to come down, the idea that just because you weren't born in the country you aren't allowed to settle is simply absurd.
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    Here's a video of a senior BNP politician stooping to the level of a street gang and fighting.



    Here are some of the (positively rated) comments from the BNP's supporters:

    "****ing dune coons and sand ******* [n-word] should all be ****ing nuked like the Japs. They are nothing but war mongering, hate filled, pedophilic aggressive, smelly, rag head, bearded ****ing scum ****s. They come to our country and ****ing get all the handouts yet have the ****ing nerve to **** on us. The Enemy within. Kill em all."

    "lol porkistani scroungers getting their ass kicked ! fuk off back you pedo scroungers."

    "i get it now ! your a toffie noise little ***** living off of Dadys money ? lol sad little ****er i Hate ur kind worse than the pakis . ITS YOUR KIND OF SCUM THAT LET them all in ! in the first place your ****ing SCUMBAG . btw i probley pay more taxes than your Dady lmfao SCUMBAG "

    "Those pakis got flattened!!! Good on Bob Bailey for defending himself. If some curry muncher spat on me i'd make curry paste out of them too!!!"



    Now I'm not trying to defend that street gang, but it's pretty clear that the BNP and their thug supporters should be kept as far away from power as possible. Above you will see a post by "jtyne", who has been coming to this forum for months (under over 50 different accounts) to try and make it sound like the BNP are a decent party and their supporters are decent people who haven't been "brainwashed" by the "Zionist media" who want to cause "white genocide". I think we all know better than to believe that kind of scaremongering.
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    (Original post by JediArron)
    Hi guys, what is everyone's opinion on the British National Party?
    A video I frequently like to post when this topic comes up:




    (Original post by de_monies)
    My pretty massive rebuttal to all their policies

    From here:
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...5#post39956775

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    (Copied and pasted)

    Ill tell you what I have problems with. Ill go through their policies, one by one

    Before I even go in to their policies, know that their policies are just a cover for the policies that they haven't told us. In short, it's propaganda



    Now on to their "policies"

    Manifesto

    • Mentions "immigration invasion" It's not an invasion if people are immigrating legally and with permission. Thats hyperbole right there
    • It talks about "restoring British industry" It's no secret that the BNP panders to the working class, and sorry but those industries are gone and are just not economical in this country.
    Why prop up uneconomical industries, when the gov't is pumping money in to high tech industries?
    • Democracy is supposedly under threat from the EU and by immigration. How so?
    • It talks about fears of jobs being transferred to the "Third world" Sorry, but it was the West who helped push those jobs to the far east, and it's not economical to get those jobs here. If we do, the jobs will be done by machines. Your average person won't notice the difference
    • It talks about colonisation and in the same sentence, they imply that the UK is somehow being colonised. Immigration =/= colonisation
    • They mention why they use certain words. That just shows the calibre of the people that vote BNP
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/manifesto


    Crime & Justice

    • What the hell is a "politically correct straight jacket"
    • In that same sentence, it seems like they want the "good old days" of "P*** bashing, Black bashing" etc...
    • Rights of criminals, and victims. Semi agree. On the one hand, part of me says stick it to the criminal, and to punish them for the max available.On the other hand, you just have to look at the Nordic countries and know that people that go in, don't keep going in etc.. (It's also cheaper)
    • Reintroducing corporal punishments for petty criminals and vandals. Why? I can understand why someone might want something like that or even capital punishment for murderers, but for vandals, it just seems a bit pointless
    • Lol at "social welfare dependance" supposedly "encouraged by disastrous Tory and Labour policies" - both these parties don't like that. It costs money. That's the bottom line
    • Most BNP supporters are working class, and more likely to be on the dole. That's just telling your voters, we don't really give a damn about you. On the plus side, at least they're being honest about it
    • Oh I do love the bit where he anthropomorphises buildings. Apparently buildings can be socialist
    • He wants "decent houses" Wheres the money going to come from?
    • The bit about "non indigenous crime" and it being dealt with as part of their "immigration and identity" policy is scary if you watch the above clip. That's very vague. Why not have the same thing for "indigenous" crime?
    • Lol at freeing 70% of the prison population by deporting the foreign criminals. Where's their source for that?
    • Putting police back on the street, and removing politically correct shackles. What? They'll patrol places that need them ie: high crime areas. I see them quite regularly in my home town, but not so much in my uni town. It makes economic sense
    • Police serving government. Shock horror. Of course, the police will serve the government. They are public sector workers.What's a "real criminal" The whole thing is very vague
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/crime_justice

    Democracy
    • The British invented modern democracy? I think that award goes to the French for overthrowing their monarchy and giving the will to the people. Even today, Britain is a "constitutional monarchy"
    • People have been denied their rights? The only rights I can see that have been curbed are those on freedom of speech ie: you can't be racist, sexist etc..
    • Democracy is absent? Really. I forgot that people were forced to vote for the Tories. Oh wait
    • What basic democratic rights have we been denied?
    • Power being devolved. Sounds nice, but unfortunately doesn't work so well in practise
    • Removing legal curbs on freedom of speech. There we go. That's the crux of it. They want to be racist, sexist etc...
    • Implementing a "Bill of rights" Fair enough, but why do we need it? Our laws are robust enough to already give us "fundamental freedoms"
    • Abolishing anti discrimination laws. Why?
    • Abolishing restrictions on freedom of speech. Why? AFAIK, the only real things that are restricted are racism, sexism etc... and most people simply aren't racist or sexist
    • Rejecting DNA samples of the innocent. Fair point, but that's hyperbole. The gov't does no such thing
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/democracy


    Economics
    • Initial post sounds absolutely pathetic. Our old industries just aren't economically viable any more. It makes no sense to prop up uneconomical industries
    • They call for manufacturing done in Britain by British workers etc... People just don't want to pay for that, and this is just protectionism. Protectionist policies do not work. If you want to look like the North Korea of Europe, go ahead
    • Unemployment will apparently be brought to an end by getting people on British manufacturing jobs - they make it sound like that's the only thing that helps the figures
    • A lot of our manufacturing is high tech/high end. That's not going to help Griffin's voters, who for the most part lack the education needed
    • They're going to restore economy by breaking up the giants. What?
    • Giving workers a stake at profits of big business. Sounds very communist like. Bad economics
    • Legislation that discriminates against White males. Source? There is no such thing.
    • What the hell is an "unfair foreign import"
    • Lol at increasing taxes on companies that outsource abroad. They'll jump ship and then you get nothing at all.
    • I've never actually heard of a married man's allowance, so no idea what that is
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/economics


    Education
    • Britain is still "up there" for education. Our universities are still world class. People greatly admire our education we have
    • Discipline has collapsed? Source? Also, notice how the schools in richer areas tend to do better for themselves, because people are simply willing to learn
    • Uni fees are hitting the poor hardest. That's BS. The poorest get the most amount of loans (I get the absolute max - I saved 2.5K, and I've put it in a savings account. I stand to make a tiny bit of profit on that amount - on the other amount, I obviously pay for it)
    • Has a point for "soft" subjects but arguably they're the ones that subsidise all the "hard" subjects. My course is very good value for money, considering what we get but if "soft" subjects were abandoned, then I can imagine it getting very pricey indeed
    • Uniforms - they exist.Don't know what planet they're on
    • O levels have been reintroduced. Also note how the BNP can't proof read their own site
    • Reintroduction of grammar schools - I went to one. Again, what planet are they on? They haven't all just been dismantled
    • Competitive sport - already happens
    • Daily Christian assemblies. Why, unless it's a CofE school?
    • Having maths that's practical in every day life. Every day maths for most people is if they get a C at GCSE. Why dumb maths down?
    • Teaching of British history - Our school did, and so do many others. It's just that we also have a world view at the same time. It makes us more knowledgeable about the world and not as ignorant as lots of American students
    • Improvement of school food - happens already
    • "Proper" Really? This is a political site, not some guy in a pub.
    • Racist neglect of White working class kids. What? If someone fails to put the work in, they fail. Simple as that. Nothing else to it
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/education


    Environment
    • Just made me lol. They seem very paranoid about the Greens
    • Immigration = destruction to environment? So, it's not the fact that 80% of the world's resources are used in 20% of the world, but because that guy from Zimbabwe decided to migrate to Britain. Sure about that?
    • Removal of power lines Wouldn't work in reality. People are selfish. They want both things. When they have no power, they are not going to be happy
    • Pushing supermarkets to go local. Many do, and we live in a free capitalist state. They are free to get them from wherever they can
    • Banning of "ritual slaughter without pre stunning" Most halal meat for instance is pre stunned, so that's hyperbole. Oh and wha's that got to do with the environment? Sounded like they wanted to have some Muslim bashing somewhere
    • Population is increasing entirely due to immigration. Really? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise that people are still having kids
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/environment


    Foreign policy

    • Our foreign policy IS determined by our own interests above all (except perhaps the Americans
    • Not quarrelling with nations that we have no interest in. That's what tend to happen. Notice how many Arab countries are "liberated" but other countries with worse situations arent?
    • Reaching an accord with the Muslim world to take back "excess population" Sounds like deportation for many Muslims just for having heritage from Muslim nations. And how the hell do you expect every one just to say "OK"?
    • So Britain says "Take all your Muslims back and we won't interfere" and then Griffin wants our foreign policy to serve us? Neither of those are in Britain's interests, economically speaking
    • I dunno about creating conflict. If the EU has done one thing that is good, is that it's created peace in Europe, where previously the continent has always been at war with itself
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/foreign-affairs


    Healthcare
    • The NHS is a laughing stock? Really? The NHS is absolutely amazing, is what it is. Yes it has inefficiencies and yes it could be improved, but it is in no way a laughing stock
    • Health tourists are being tackled
    • British doctors are unable to find work. Has he seen the stats for medicine. The lowest unemployment I've seen was 95%. 95%!
    • Contracting to cleaning companies, who employ "immigrants" doesn't mean that they're illegal. The NHS would most definitely have checks in place and the cleaning companies would be fined thousands if they were found employing illegal immigrants
    • Looting third world staff. Lol. They were offered a job and accepted. It's that simple
    • I also think Griffin hasn't grasped what "aid" is. Funnily enough, Britain had a field day when India rejected our "aid"
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/content/health


    Housing & Welfare

    • Foreigners come first. Really? It's not my fault if my Grandad spotted that house prices were rising substantially in the 80's and bought houses to rent etc...
    • Immediately given council homes. What? We own our house, and never have lived in a council home. I've never even been in one.
    • What the hell is the "immigration" and "asylum seeker" swindle? Those that are here illegally are deported. Simple as. There is no swindle
    Immigration
    • 14% of Britons don't have English as a mother tongue. So? They'll learn English at school. Technically speaking, my mother tongue isn't English but because I've became so fluent in English, and not really spoke my "native tongue" I've became far less fluent in that
    • Non indigenous births will soon account for more than half of all babies. Source?
    • Immigration will account for 40% of houses. Source?
    • Wait, they say 2.5 million are from the EU, with 3.7 million in total. Where did they get their 84% figure then?
    • 20% were born overseas. Source?
    • Drop two lines and that becomes 11%. Lol, more contradictions
    • Voluntary resettlement is apparently a £50K pay check. Not only would that bankrupt the UK, but over a lifetime that's abysmal
    • Positive discrimination =/= making White Briton's second class citizens.
    • They focus on what other countries do. We aren't other countries. At least compare our immigration policies to Western nations, not nations like Saudi Arabia, India etc...
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/immigration

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    Scaremongering Racist white thugs in suits. Every BNP and EDL person I have met has been a racist and uneducated white thug. One I knew was even a self confessed football hooligan


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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
    A video I frequently like to post when this topic comes up:







    PRSOM
    Thanks for the videos. It really brought me round to understand that the British National Party aren't racists, but only offer a sense of rationale within their policies, and you have brought me round to believing that they're a morally correct and perfectly decent party to be leading our country. XD
 
 
 
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