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Reply 800
Original post by MathsNerd1
Okay, it's a cyclic hydrocarbon with 6 carbon and hydrogen atoms arranged in a planar hexagonal ring and they are bonded to two other carbon atoms and there is ring of electron density above and below the hexagonal ring because of the overlap of the pi bonds which creates a delocalised ring of electrons.


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Good, 3/4, mention 120 around each carbon atom
my turn
Original post by otrivine
Good, 3/4, mention 120 around each carbon atom
my turn


Oh okay, thanks. Explain the products made an ester is hydrolysed with an acid and also the products of alkaline hydrolysis for the ester butyl propanoate. (3)


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Reply 802
Original post by MathsNerd1
Oh okay, thanks. Explain the products made an ester is hydrolysed with an acid and also the products of alkaline hydrolysis for the ester butyl propanoate. (3)


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products of acid

CH3CH2COOH + HO-CH2-CH2-CH2-CH3

products of alkaline with aq NaOH

CH3CH2COO-Na+ + Na+O- - CH2-CH2-CH2-CH3
Original post by otrivine
products of acid

CH3CH2COOH + HO-CH2-CH2-CH2-CH3

products of alkaline with aq NaOH

CH3CH2COO-Na+ + Na+O- - CH2-CH2-CH2-CH3


That's all correct except for your alkaline hydrolysis as it still produces the alcohol again with the sodium salt of the carboxylic acid. Good try though :smile:


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Reply 804
Original post by MathsNerd1
That's all correct except for your alkaline hydrolysis as it still produces the alcohol again with the sodium salt of the carboxylic acid. Good try though :smile:


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why is it the COOH reacts but not the alcohol, do you know?
Original post by otrivine
why is it the COOH reacts but not the alcohol, do you know?


I'm not really too sure why, I just remember that's what happens when doing the questions


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Reply 806
Original post by MathsNerd1
I'm not really too sure why, I just remember that's what happens when doing the questions


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ok thanks :smile:

Give 2 properties of Phenol and why is phenol slightly soluble in water (3)
Original post by otrivine
ok thanks :smile:

Give 2 properties of Phenol and why is phenol slightly soluble in water (3)


It's a solid at RTP and undergoes electrophilic substitution like benzene but doesn't require a halogen carrier. It is slightly soluble in water because the OH group forms hydrogen bonds with water.


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Reply 808
Original post by MathsNerd1
It's a solid at RTP and undergoes electrophilic substitution like benzene but doesn't require a halogen carrier. It is slightly soluble in water because the OH group forms hydrogen bonds with water.


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will lose a mark, should say pink solid!

but good!

my turn
Original post by otrivine
will lose a mark, should say pink solid!

but good!

my turn


I see, my bad.

Okay, if you wanted get from an alkene to a primary alcohol then what reagents and conditions are required? (2)


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Reply 810
Original post by MathsNerd1
I see, my bad.

Okay, if you wanted get from an alkene to a primary alcohol then what reagents and conditions are required? (2)


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no worries!


is it aq NaBH4 and heat is applied
Original post by otrivine
no worries!


is it aq NaBH4 and heat is applied


Nope, it's steam, 300 degrees and a phosphoric acid catalyst, this was just testing what you could remember from last year


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Reply 812
Original post by MathsNerd1
Nope, it's steam, 300 degrees and a phosphoric acid catalyst, this was just testing what you could remember from last year


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oh yes, better recap on F322!!

Define:chrial
Original post by otrivine
oh no thats wrong it should be 150 with a Ni catalyst


No that's going from a alkene to an alkene, I asked from an alkene to a primary alcohol


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Original post by otrivine
oh yes, better recap on F322!!

Define:chrial


It's fine as I doubt they'll ask us something to do with that. And chiral is a molecule that has 4 different groups attached to it (normally a carbon centre) that creates a non super imposable mirror image of each other.


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Reply 815
Original post by MathsNerd1
It's fine as I doubt they'll ask us something to do with that. And chiral is a molecule that has 4 different groups attached to it (normally a carbon centre) that creates a non super imposable mirror image of each other.


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yes correct, but in case !
Original post by otrivine
yes correct, but in case !


That's true.

Explain spin spin coupling in proton NMR. (4)


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Reply 817
Original post by MathsNerd1
That's true.

Explain spin spin coupling in proton NMR. (4)


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On the examiner tip, we will not be assessed on this, only when we need to interpret from the spectrum we should know about the triplet and quartet
Original post by otrivine
On the examiner tip, we will not be assessed on this, only when we need to interpret from the spectrum we should know about the triplet and quartet


I can't see the one that says that :-/


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Reply 819
Original post by MathsNerd1
I can't see the one that says that :-/


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on page 84

do you want me to describe spin as to how many hydrogens are found adjacent to carbon ato,m

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