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Getting good grades with no effort

I've always been pretty lazy. I never feel like I've put in 100% in anything I've done, ever. This might be because I'm a perfectionist or I might just be lazy, I'm not sure. I know lots of people and have seen conutless threads on TSR about people putting in hours upon hours of revision and still doing badly despite all their effort. I do revise a bit before exams but I've never been able to stick to a revision timetable or have any sort of structured work plan, ever. I just have no motivation, and I always get nearly full marks in my exams (A2 maths, chemistry and physics).

I always feel guilty about not working hard enough then come out with great results, which just makes me slack off even more. Any coursework or projects I always leave to the last minute and get pretty good marks in them too. I just don't understand how I'm doing so well, and feel incredibly guilty for all the people who slave away revising and are still disappointed whilst I can get the top grades with minimal effort, it seems really unfair. I am NOT complaining or saying that It's unfair on me in any way, I just don't understand why I'm doing so well. I do genuinely enjoy school and learning, and I pick up new stuff really quickly, but when it comes to doing work on my own I just can't make myself if I don't want to. I just have no willpower or motivation, I sit around wasting hours away playing video games and feeling depressed.

I have an offer from Oxford for Chemistry, and I'm terrified that when it comes to university and doing real work that I just won't be able to cope and end up dropping out. I'm either some sort of genius and I've never been pushed to my full potential (very unlikely) or just a very lazy person who is lucky to be gifted at good exam technique (most definitely). It may be that I do do a lot of work and it just doesn't feel like it, or that the work I do manage is very effective, but I just don't feel like I could ever manage a properly self disciplined routine.


TL;DR: I'm lazy and get really good grades. Never been organised or able to work/revise properly, but I enjoy school. Worried about university.

Anyone else out there feel the same/been through the same thing/found a way out of this lethargic mess?

Just to clarify I'm not complaining and saying my life is hard and I want sympathy, I'm just wondering if there is anyone out there who feels the same.

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Reply 1
Hi there, I can totally relate to your situation. I am a final year under grad studying business & management, I have averaged an "A" in my previous years and am set to do well this year. I genuinely have no idea how I have done this. I leave everything until the last possible moment and start assignments a couple of days before the deadline. I struggle with motivation and waste hours on the internet messing about, yet still usually pick up a decent mark. My class mates are always a little angry about this, but I can't help doing well.

I have found that I am incapable of doing work of any quality without being under immense stress from a looming deadline, setting false deadlines also does not work for me. If this system works for you then keep at it.
I'm kinda similar. I did about 10 minutes of revision for my further maths exam and came out with the highest score in the year XD I do try to revise, but I tend to do worse on exams that I do lots of revision for, and I have no idea why :/
Original post by holliebass
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I don't mean to sound arrogant (genuinely), but since you asked, I'm pretty much the same as you but three years on. I never worked at school, got good grades, and now I'm doing maths at Oxford.

To be honest, it has been difficult, because I stopped handing homework in around year 10, so sticking to a very rigorous structure of problem sheets etc is nearly impossible. With Chemistry you will also have labs though, so that might help to enforce a structure.

Don't worry too much - you definitely deserve a place! However, I really do recommend going into the first term as organised as you can be. Try to do work several days in advance - it makes a massive difference. Congratulations on your offer, and I'm sure you'll do well. :smile:
Original post by holliebass
I've always been pretty lazy. I never feel like I've put in 100% in anything I've done, ever. This might be because I'm a perfectionist or I might just be lazy, I'm not sure. I know lots of people and have seen conutless threads on TSR about people putting in hours upon hours of revision and still doing badly despite all their effort. I do revise a bit before exams but I've never been able to stick to a revision timetable or have any sort of structured work plan, ever. I just have no motivation, and I always get nearly full marks in my exams (A2 maths, chemistry and physics).

I always feel guilty about not working hard enough then come out with great results, which just makes me slack off even more. Any coursework or projects I always leave to the last minute and get pretty good marks in them too. I just don't understand how I'm doing so well, and feel incredibly guilty for all the people who slave away revising and are still disappointed whilst I can get the top grades with minimal effort, it seems really unfair. I am NOT complaining or saying that It's unfair on me in any way, I just don't understand why I'm doing so well. I do genuinely enjoy school and learning, and I pick up new stuff really quickly, but when it comes to doing work on my own I just can't make myself if I don't want to. I just have no willpower or motivation, I sit around wasting hours away playing video games and feeling depressed.

I have an offer from Oxford for Chemistry, and I'm terrified that when it comes to university and doing real work that I just won't be able to cope and end up dropping out. I'm either some sort of genius and I've never been pushed to my full potential (very unlikely) or just a very lazy person who is lucky to be gifted at good exam technique (most definitely). It may be that I do do a lot of work and it just doesn't feel like it, or that the work I do manage is very effective, but I just don't feel like I could ever manage a properly self disciplined routine.


TL;DR: I'm lazy and get really good grades. Never been organised or able to work/revise properly, but I enjoy school. Worried about university.

Anyone else out there feel the same/been through the same thing/found a way out of this lethargic mess?

Just to clarify I'm not complaining and saying my life is hard and I want sympathy, I'm just wondering if there is anyone out there who feels the same.


Sorry but I think you're lying, either that or you just think you don't do that much revision. You're idea of very little of revision may not be someone else's idea of very little revision. Also you sound very arrogant. What do you want us to say? Well done you're genius! I wish I was as smart as you!

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Reply 5
Original post by holliebass
I've always been pretty lazy. I never feel like I've put in 100% in anything I've done, ever. This might be because I'm a perfectionist or I might just be lazy, I'm not sure. I know lots of people and have seen conutless threads on TSR about people putting in hours upon hours of revision and still doing badly despite all their effort. I do revise a bit before exams but I've never been able to stick to a revision timetable or have any sort of structured work plan, ever. I just have no motivation, and I always get nearly full marks in my exams (A2 maths, chemistry and physics).

I always feel guilty about not working hard enough then come out with great results, which just makes me slack off even more. Any coursework or projects I always leave to the last minute and get pretty good marks in them too. I just don't understand how I'm doing so well, and feel incredibly guilty for all the people who slave away revising and are still disappointed whilst I can get the top grades with minimal effort, it seems really unfair. I am NOT complaining or saying that It's unfair on me in any way, I just don't understand why I'm doing so well. I do genuinely enjoy school and learning, and I pick up new stuff really quickly, but when it comes to doing work on my own I just can't make myself if I don't want to. I just have no willpower or motivation, I sit around wasting hours away playing video games and feeling depressed.

I have an offer from Oxford for Chemistry, and I'm terrified that when it comes to university and doing real work that I just won't be able to cope and end up dropping out. I'm either some sort of genius and I've never been pushed to my full potential (very unlikely) or just a very lazy person who is lucky to be gifted at good exam technique (most definitely). It may be that I do do a lot of work and it just doesn't feel like it, or that the work I do manage is very effective, but I just don't feel like I could ever manage a properly self disciplined routine.


TL;DR: I'm lazy and get really good grades. Never been organised or able to work/revise properly, but I enjoy school. Worried about university.

Anyone else out there feel the same/been through the same thing/found a way out of this lethargic mess?

Just to clarify I'm not complaining and saying my life is hard and I want sympathy, I'm just wondering if there is anyone out there who feels the same.


How much attention do you pay in class?
Reply 6
Original post by holliebass
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i know what you mean, i'm the same except not as smart, without work i can do well and better than a lot of people i know who work their asses off but not top of the class well! and it really is just laziness, i've been trying to be less lazy these days and not take anything for granted though, not sure if it's working, it's a bad habit that's hard to get out of...

Original post by mini_baz
Hi there, I can totally relate to your situation. I am a final year under grad studying business & management, I have averaged an "A" in my previous years and am set to do well this year. I genuinely have no idea how I have done this. I leave everything until the last possible moment and start assignments a couple of days before the deadline. I struggle with motivation and waste hours on the internet messing about, yet still usually pick up a decent mark. My class mates are always a little angry about this, but I can't help doing well.

I have found that I am incapable of doing work of any quality without being under immense stress from a looming deadline, setting false deadlines also does not work for me. If this system works for you then keep at it.


that's literally me, i do my best and frankly only work when i have a pressing deadline and just leave everything to the absolute last minute.

Original post by Anime Lover
I'm kinda similar. I did about 10 minutes of revision for my further maths exam and came out with the highest score in the year XD I do try to revise, but I tend to do worse on exams that I do lots of revision for, and I have no idea why :/


me too, i tried this year to do lots of revision weeks before my exam for a specific subject that i wasn't on target for and i went a grade down this year instead, not saying that last minute revision is necessarily good but it kind of helps a lot. i'm working on merging my revision technique now since neither seems to be working out.

Original post by tammie123
Sorry but I think you're lying, either that or you just think you don't do that much revision. You're idea of very little of revision may not be someone else's idea of very little revision. Also you sound very arrogant. What do you want us to say? Well done you're genius! I wish I was as smart as you!

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i don't think that's true, i know a few people who don't need to do excessive work to do really well, and the OP doesn't sound arrogant at all, just truthful and honest, they even called themselves lazy, how does that count as arrogance? even as they said all they want to know is if people were similar to them.
Original post by lazershus
me too, i tried this year to do lots of revision weeks before my exam for a specific subject that i wasn't on target for and i went a grade down this year instead, not saying that last minute revision is necessarily good but it kind of helps a lot. i'm working on merging my revision technique now since neither seems to be working out.


Aww I'm sorry to hear that :frown: Which subject was it for? I revised a fair bit for Physics and it was my worst result, but I'm getting my script back because apparently there might have been a marking error. I had a lot of problems last year at home and with illness and I was stressed so I didn't do too well, but this year I've adopted a really relaxed approach and, generally, it seems to be working. If you're struggling to get good grades, maybe try to relax more and have a more positive approach to exams. Think they're an opportunity to show how smart you are, rather than to catch you out. I hope that helps a bit :smile:
Reply 8
Original post by emzlynn
Do you by any chance try really hard in school, write really fast and complete all the exercises in class? Further, do you simplify things down and link them to things you already know?


Original post by emzlynn
How much attention do you pay in class?


Most of the time I'm very alert in lessons, I'm very lucky to have some really good teachers and I learn loads from just listening and talking to them, more than I do from any work I do on my own. I don't write down as much as I probably should but I can remember most things if they have a logical reasoning behind them, like trends in the periodic table and stuff. If it's logical then I can remember bits and just work the rest out if I need to, so yeah I do simplify things and link them to stuff I know already which makes everything simpler. Especially with Chemistry everything just slots into place and makes sense, when we cover new material I'll annoy the teacher until I understand everything and once I understand it and have done a few exam style questions it's just in my head.



Original post by tammie123
Sorry but I think you're lying, either that or you just think you don't do that much revision. You're idea of very little of revision may not be someone else's idea of very little revision. Also you sound very arrogant. What do you want us to say? Well done you're genius! I wish I was as smart as you!


I didn't mean to sound arrogant, I just want to see if anyone else feels the same as me. I know I must do more revision than some people but I know lots of people who do hours every day (which I couldn't manage), and are still disappointed with their results. I genuinely respect people who work hard and I feel really upset that sometimes their work doesn't get them as far as they deserve, and feel awful for doing well when I feel like I really don't deserve it. I feel that the current examining system is unfair, and while it suits me very well I'm worried that when I leave school I'll be completely lost
Reply 9
Original post by Octohedral

Don't worry too much - you definitely deserve a place! However, I really do recommend going into the first term as organised as you can be. Try to do work several days in advance - it makes a massive difference. Congratulations on your offer, and I'm sure you'll do well. :smile:


Thank you :smile: I'm hoping that the course will be so interesting that it won't feel like work, It's mainly physics homework and projects that I hate doing. I don't think I've ever put off doing Chemistry homework because I enjoy it. That said, we hardly get any homework, maybe a few questions and a page of reading a week, so Oxford is going to be quite a shock!
I'm not trying to be rude or whatever but how are you a perfectionist if you never work? :s-smilie: Surely you'd be a perfectionist if you were really really desperate to get great grades.
Original post by holliebass
I've always been pretty lazy. I never feel like I've put in 100% in anything I've done, ever. This might be because I'm a perfectionist or I might just be lazy, I'm not sure. I know lots of people and have seen conutless threads on TSR about people putting in hours upon hours of revision and still doing badly despite all their effort. I do revise a bit before exams but I've never been able to stick to a revision timetable or have any sort of structured work plan, ever. I just have no motivation, and I always get nearly full marks in my exams (A2 maths, chemistry and physics).

I always feel guilty about not working hard enough then come out with great results, which just makes me slack off even more. Any coursework or projects I always leave to the last minute and get pretty good marks in them too. I just don't understand how I'm doing so well, and feel incredibly guilty for all the people who slave away revising and are still disappointed whilst I can get the top grades with minimal effort, it seems really unfair. I am NOT complaining or saying that It's unfair on me in any way, I just don't understand why I'm doing so well. I do genuinely enjoy school and learning, and I pick up new stuff really quickly, but when it comes to doing work on my own I just can't make myself if I don't want to. I just have no willpower or motivation, I sit around wasting hours away playing video games and feeling depressed.

I have an offer from Oxford for Chemistry, and I'm terrified that when it comes to university and doing real work that I just won't be able to cope and end up dropping out. I'm either some sort of genius and I've never been pushed to my full potential (very unlikely) or just a very lazy person who is lucky to be gifted at good exam technique (most definitely). It may be that I do do a lot of work and it just doesn't feel like it, or that the work I do manage is very effective, but I just don't feel like I could ever manage a properly self disciplined routine.


TL;DR: I'm lazy and get really good grades. Never been organised or able to work/revise properly, but I enjoy school. Worried about university.

Anyone else out there feel the same/been through the same thing/found a way out of this lethargic mess?

Just to clarify I'm not complaining and saying my life is hard and I want sympathy, I'm just wondering if there is anyone out there who feels the same.


On a more interesting topic, what video games do you play? :biggrin:
Original post by Anime Lover
Aww I'm sorry to hear that :frown: Which subject was it for? I revised a fair bit for Physics and it was my worst result, but I'm getting my script back because apparently there might have been a marking error. I had a lot of problems last year at home and with illness and I was stressed so I didn't do too well, but this year I've adopted a really relaxed approach and, generally, it seems to be working. If you're struggling to get good grades, maybe try to relax more and have a more positive approach to exams. Think they're an opportunity to show how smart you are, rather than to catch you out. I hope that helps a bit :smile:


thanks for that, it's for biology, it's pretty difficult cos unlike my other subjects it's mostly about memorising information and has a little less to do with understanding things and applying concepts. i'll try and do that, i've been realising my home environment isn't particularly good for revision either, i think i should probably try leaving the house and going to a library to revise or something. :smile:
Yep, same here. I do try to revise, I'd love to have the drive to revise the way my friends do. Problem is, when I do try to revise, I get bored because I feel I already know it. Also in the same position as you - offer from Oxford for PPE and I'm terrified that I'll just die in a world where I have to work... I'm excited about the idea of being properly challenged though
Reply 14
Original post by -strawberry-
I'm not trying to be rude or whatever but how are you a perfectionist if you never work? :s-smilie: Surely you'd be a perfectionist if you were really really desperate to get great grades.


I know that sounds stupid, I guess rather than perfectionist I mean never feeling like I've done enough or tried my best even if I get full marks in something.


Original post by hamsterdowns
Yep, same here. I do try to revise, I'd love to have the drive to revise the way my friends do. Problem is, when I do try to revise, I get bored because I feel I already know it. Also in the same position as you - offer from Oxford for PPE and I'm terrified that I'll just die in a world where I have to work... I'm excited about the idea of being properly challenged though


Same, I'm really hoping that being really stretched and challenged will give me the motivation to work much more, I'm sure we'll both be fine :smile:


Original post by JediArron
On a more interesting topic, what video games do you play? :biggrin:


Even though my laptop is a piece of **** I can sometimes play a bit of TF2 or Garry's mod before it melts, mainly Steam games like Portal 2 etc. I also have a weird Onlive box microconsole thing and I've been playing Assassin's Creed Brotherhood waaayy too much
Original post by lazershus
thanks for that, it's for biology, it's pretty difficult cos unlike my other subjects it's mostly about memorising information and has a little less to do with understanding things and applying concepts. i'll try and do that, i've been realising my home environment isn't particularly good for revision either, i think i should probably try leaving the house and going to a library to revise or something. :smile:


Yeah, biology is a bit of an awkward subject for revision, stuff like maths is a lot easier to ace without revision. One of my friends always goes to the library because he gets distracted at home, and he always does really well, so if you struggle to revise in your home environment it would probably do you a lot of good to try doing work elsewhere :smile:
Original post by holliebass
I know that sounds stupid, I guess rather than perfectionist I mean never feeling like I've done enough or tried my best even if I get full marks in something.




Same, I'm really hoping that being really stretched and challenged will give me the motivation to work much more, I'm sure we'll both be fine :smile:




Even though my laptop is a piece of **** I can sometimes play a bit of TF2 or Garry's mod before it melts, mainly Steam games like Portal 2 etc. I also have a weird Onlive box microconsole thing and I've been playing Assassin's Creed Brotherhood waaayy too much


Hmmm no common games. I play League of Legends, Planetside 2, Mount and Blade: Napoleonic Wars ^^
Reply 17
Original post by lazershus
thanks for that, it's for biology, it's pretty difficult cos unlike my other subjects it's mostly about memorising information and has a little less to do with understanding things and applying concepts. i'll try and do that, i've been realising my home environment isn't particularly good for revision either, i think i should probably try leaving the house and going to a library to revise or something. :smile:


I find that leaving the house helps. I find it hard to practice the piano at home, I start and stop and start again, so even though I do practice I don't manage to get much done. However I find that if I go over to my teacher's house (she has an extra piano for students who want to study while she is giving lessons) helps me more. I sometimes would do 2-3 hours without noticing there. I feel more focused. Probably because I have a different mind set than at home. I know that when I am there I am there to play the piano only, however I am always at home, where I can eat, read, use the laptop, play the piano etc so I am not as focused.

At teacher's house = play piano; at home = a million and one things to do
Reply 18
I'm the same, didn't revise for GCSE but still managed to pass with good grades. Just can't revise to save my life. Don't have the motivation or the drive to. Completely know where you're coming from and I'm also worried about Uni.
Reply 19
Original post by username1003420
Sorry but I think you're lying, either that or you just think you don't do that much revision. You're idea of very little of revision may not be someone else's idea of very little revision. Also you sound very arrogant. What do you want us to say? Well done you're genius! I wish I was as smart as you!

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