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    Bit confused as to why people are wanting this abolished?
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    I don't know, I see no problem and want it kept. They keep confusing it with the EU, the ECHR is part of the Council of Europe a completely different organisation
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    They probably feel it's too nice, everything seems to need to "hard" these days
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    Because it's far outreached its original good intentions and now offers rights to criminals rather than victims.
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    (Original post by harry callahan)
    because it's far outreached its original good intentions and now offers rights to criminals rather than victims.
    Everyone has human rights
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    Everyone has human rights
    Legally, yes, but criminals shouldn't have the rights they currently do.
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    Everyone has human rights
    Only in principle. The current act goes too far. We couldn't deport dangerous criminals back to their homelands just because they have a wife and child here. Yet if they were single they'd be on the first plane home. That definitely isn't right. If you are a guest in our country we have the right to kick your ass out.
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    (Original post by Harry Callahan)
    Legally, yes, but criminals shouldn't have the rights they currently do.
    Which rights do you not wish them to have?
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    (Original post by Genocidal)
    Only in principle. The current act goes too far. We couldn't deport dangerous criminals back to their homelands just because they have a wife and child here. Yet if they were single they'd be on the first plane home. That definitely isn't right. If you are a guest in our country we have the right to kick your ass out.
    So Right-wing
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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    Which rights do you not wish them to have?
    All of them. I think criminals - serious criminals - should sacrifice their rights upon committing a crime.

    The British government should show a bit of backbone for once, rather than pandering to the ECHR.
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    (Original post by Harry Callahan)
    All of them. I think criminals - serious criminals - should sacrifice their rights upon committing a crime.

    The British government should show a bit of backbone for once, rather than pandering to the ECHR.
    The UK is a founding Signatory, there will be International embarrassment if we bow to your thinking
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    So Right-wing
    Fantastic retort!
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    The UK is a founding Signatory, there will be International embarrassment if we bow to your thinking
    Then so be it. It's time we got control of our own country back.
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    (Original post by Harry Callahan)
    Then so be it. It's time we got control of our own country back.
    Oh, you want the UK isolated from the rest of the world?
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    Home Secretary has said that if the Conservatives win the 2015 elections, they will consider leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR). I am sorry but does she realize that the only country in Europe which is not a signatory to the ECHR is....Belarus?
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    Oh, you want the UK isolated from the rest of the world?
    How would it isolate us?
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    So Right-wing
    Not a real answer at all.

    Tell me why we should cater to a dangerous criminal which wasn't even born here? Why should everyone else be put at risk just to let him live where he wants?
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    (Original post by Harry Callahan)
    All of them. I think criminals - serious criminals - should sacrifice their rights upon committing a crime.

    The British government should show a bit of backbone for once, rather than pandering to the ECHR.
    So a car thief (car theft is a serious crime) should not have any rights at all.

    Let us look at the various articles of the ECHR

    Article 2-Right to life. The state-let us say an Income Tax Inspector-should be entitled to kill any car thief

    Article 3-Prohibition of Torture-we will find out where those hubcaps went when we waterboard him.

    Article 4-Prohibition of slavery and forced labour-It will help the balance of payments if we sell him to a East Anglian potato farmer

    Article 5-Right to liberty and security-We are not going to tell him what he is accused of

    Article 6-Right to a fair trial-Lets have the car owner and his mates on the jury, or better still lets not have a jury at all.

    Article 7-No punishment without law-The police can give him a once-over in the cells to make him not do it again

    Article 8-Right to respect for private and family life-Lets publish some photos of his kids and the love letters to his wife

    When you say he has no rights, that is what you mean.
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    (Original post by nmuers)
    Bit confused as to why people are wanting this abolished?
    Right now, there's a war going on between Lord Neuberger and the Tories....Lord Neuberger is warning the government of the importance of Human Rights and the Tories seem to be responding by further breaching Human Rights
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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    So a car thief (car theft is a serious crime) should not have any rights at all.

    Let us look at the various articles of the ECHR

    Article 2-Right to life. The state-let us say an Income Tax Inspector-should be entitled to kill any car thief

    Article 3-Prohibition of Torture-we will find out where those hubcaps went when we waterboard him.

    Article 4-Prohibition of slavery and forced labour-It will help the balance of payments if we sell him to a East Anglian potato farmer

    Article 5-Right to liberty and security-We are not going to tell him what he is accused of

    Article 6-Right to a fair trial-Lets have the car owner and his mates on the jury, or better still lets not have a jury at all.

    Article 7-No punishment without law-The police can give him a once-over in the cells to make him not do it again

    Article 8-Right to respect for private and family life-Lets publish some photos of his kids and the love letters to his wife

    When you say he has no rights, that is what you mean.
    You have to apply common sense. Stop being pedantic for the sake of it. You know full well what I mean.
 
 
 
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