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    (Original post by dj1015)
    So you think these people coming to UK is a good thing?
    We has a big influx of Poles from 2004 onwards, and that didn't do any harm. Why wouldn't it be the same for Romanians and Bulgarians?
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    I would say that the Poles generally contributed in a positive way, but then I am not in an industry that is affected by the influx.
    On the other hand if you were a builder/plumber/bricky/bar worker trying to make a living out of a dwindling amount of work in a downturn you may see it differently.
    One thing for certain is if it was Polish MPs coming here looking to get work in their field, Parliament would have rushed legislation through to stop them damn quick.
    As to what is wrong with a large unpredictable number of Romanians and Bulgarians (even HMG is too scared to come up with a figure) coming to the UK? I suggest you talk off the record to and Police Officer who works in street crime, shop lifting or fraud.
    The Polish that were here before their influx had a good reputation and work ethic, there was no real reason to fear them coming.
    The Romanians and Bulgarians on the other hand are a totally different kettle of fish.
    The problem seems to be liberal people who, in my experience are very nice, struggling with admitting to themselves that some times you have to stand up to defend yourself and say no, that's far enough.
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    (Original post by Arbolus)
    We has a big influx of Poles from 2004 onwards, and that didn't do any harm. Why wouldn't it be the same for Romanians and Bulgarians?
    Poles are tall, white & mostly blonde/blue eyed. The problem is Romanians and Bulgarians aren't.

    Imagine such tower block as on the picture full of Scandinavians: do you think that would be a problem ?

    Nordic deviance = acceptable, if you're everyone else you're the ghetto underclass.

    This is a deeply rooted psychological racism which we will fortunately get rid off with the continuous evolution of society at some point.
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    Subhuman savages are on course to rendering Western Europe a horrid place to live in.
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    They would be mad to come to our sad, cold little country, with its poor economy, backward people and meagre benefits. I'm not surprised they flocked to a civilised place like Germany instead, really we should be emigrating there ourselves.
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    Bulgarians are whities, damm man be glad that for one time in the 100 years an immigrant is not a muslim or an african of wich u have already 3 milion in the UK ....
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    Unrestricted immigration between EU member states was probably the least thought out policy. Sure, its great when you want to allow professionals easy movements between capitals to set up businesses. But when you allow EU membership to countries with a significantly inferior standard of living, a basic welfare system and high unemployment of course those people are going to immigrate to the member states that afford them better jobs and benefits. No person should be allowed to immigrate to another country unless he can provide a needed skill or plug a hole in the labour market, or if they have family ties to the place.
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    (Original post by caravaggio2)
    I would say that the Poles generally contributed in a positive way, but then I am not in an industry that is affected by the influx.
    On the other hand if you were a builder/plumber/bricky/bar worker trying to make a living out of a dwindling amount of work in a downturn you may see it differently.
    One thing for certain is if it was Polish MPs coming here looking to get work in their field, Parliament would have rushed legislation through to stop them damn quick.
    As to what is wrong with a large unpredictable number of Romanians and Bulgarians (even HMG is too scared to come up with a figure) coming to the UK? I suggest you talk off the record to and Police Officer who works in street crime, shop lifting or fraud.
    The Polish that were here before their influx had a good reputation and work ethic, there was no real reason to fear them coming.
    The Romanians and Bulgarians on the other hand are a totally different kettle of fish.
    The problem seems to be liberal people who, in my experience are very nice, struggling with admitting to themselves that some times you have to stand up to defend yourself and say no, that's far enough.
    Well said

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    (Original post by scrotgrot)
    They would be mad to come to our sad, cold little country, with its poor economy, backward people and meagre benefits. I'm not surprised they flocked to a civilised place like Germany instead, really we should be emigrating there ourselves.
    Clearly the ever increasing population of England's green and pleasant land! Not many agree with you!

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    the vats bulk of the mass immigration comes from outside of the EU -- countries like india, pakistan, bangladesh and nigeria.

    focusing on the EU immigrants is not going to solve the problem.
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    (Original post by Arbolus)
    We has a big influx of Poles from 2004 onwards, and that didn't do any harm. Why wouldn't it be the same for Romanians and Bulgarians?
    The economy does not justify ethnically cleansing the British.
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    (Original post by dj1015)
    A leftie German mayor has warned us in the UK, that a small influx of Romanians and Bulgarians has caused havoc in his town and that we can expect the same.

    Reputable source as always.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Duisburg.html

    Surely this cant be good for the UK? I dont understand why anyone could be in favor of this.
    Just to correct the article and you: they are not Romanians, they are Roma people from Romania.
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    (Original post by RealWorkingClass)
    Poles are tall, white & mostly blonde/blue eyed. The problem is Romanians and Bulgarians aren't.

    Imagine such tower block as on the picture full of Scandinavians: do you think that would be a problem ?

    Nordic deviance = acceptable, if you're everyone else you're the ghetto underclass.

    This is a deeply rooted psychological racism which we will fortunately get rid off with the continuous evolution of society at some point.
    That's really scraping the bottom of the barrel
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    Why would anyone want people like this in their country? And I'm not talking about their nationality, it's about the way they behave.
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    I don't think they will come.

    There are many gypsies in France, Italy, Germany, and they could come to Britain but haven't.

    Why not ?

    But normal Romanians and Bulgarians won't be as much of a problem.
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    ...But, Romanian females are HOT
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    Wait till the Turks come.
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    I remember there being a documentary about these Romanian families, can anyone remember it? It came on the BBC.

    The biggest issue was in Italy, where their is footage of kids stealing from people withdrawing money from bank accounts, the money is sent back to Romania for there superiors... Basically some 'mafia' kind of guy who build huge houses and have fancy cars such is the culture of these type of Romanians.

    So why the hell should they be allowed to enter the UK to incestly breed to have a large income of Child benefits and other benefits to be sent to a fat **** head in Romania?
    The slovakians are enough, sure you get the odd scum but some are quite nice people but the gypsies sure they've been in so much pain from many people through the years but if they refuse to acknowledge a civil society then they can clearly **** off and stay in the gutter. I'm a socialist but I believe the laws of the land must be obeyed in a moral and ethical way. I want to become a doctor, I want to be saving peoples lives and caring them not some idiot that decided to have a brawl cause his cousin touched his sister...

    Seriously why can't we have a civil society?
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    The official debate is on Monday hopefully the Government will see sense and do something
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    (Original post by forgetamine)
    Why would anyone want people like this in their country? And I'm not talking about their nationality, it's about the way they behave.
    Not really.
 
 
 
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