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    hi,

    I'm wanting to apply in the future to study child nursing. Problem is, i worked a children's nursery for a while and when i had my CRB check done for that job it unexpectedly came up with the fact that the police had visited my house once after i made a call to childline saying i was suicidal.

    I don't know whether this will come up on my CRB check for nursing - will it always come up on every CRB check i have for the rest of my life or will it at some point expire? Also, if it did come up on the CRB would it affect my application?

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    I'm pretty sure it won't come up on the crb, and if it does it won't make the slightest bit of difference as you've not committed a crime. And nursing interviewers tend to be very sensitive to mental health issues
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    hi,

    I'm wanting to apply in the future to study child nursing. Problem is, i worked a children's nursery for a while and when i had my CRB check done for that job it unexpectedly came up with the fact that the police had visited my house once after i made a call to childline saying i was suicidal.

    I don't know whether this will come up on my CRB check for nursing - will it always come up on every CRB check i have for the rest of my life or will it at some point expire? Also, if it did come up on the CRB would it affect my application?

    Thanks
    When you fill in the CRB form why don't you just say that there is a possibility that it may come up so it shows that you are being honest with them if it does. It shouldn't affect your application though as you haven't done anything wrong! Hope this helps
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    hi,

    I'm wanting to apply in the future to study child nursing. Problem is, i worked a children's nursery for a while and when i had my CRB check done for that job it unexpectedly came up with the fact that the police had visited my house once after i made a call to childline saying i was suicidal.

    I don't know whether this will come up on my CRB check for nursing - will it always come up on every CRB check i have for the rest of my life or will it at some point expire? Also, if it did come up on the CRB would it affect my application?

    Thanks
    It won't affect your CRB check. You will be fine. I have experience with this; message me for details/reassurance.
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    Thank you to everyone, it's really reassuring to hear. I just can't stand the thought of something like that happening in my past affecting my future career.....I'm really enthusiastic about nursing and I can definitely see myself happy in the job so it'd be frustrating if something like this got in the way of it
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    Good luck with your application, OP
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    (Original post by Soph.Jade)
    Good luck with your application, OP
    Thank you
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    hi,

    I'm wanting to apply in the future to study child nursing. Problem is, i worked a children's nursery for a while and when i had my CRB check done for that job it unexpectedly came up with the fact that the police had visited my house once after i made a call to childline saying i was suicidal.

    I don't know whether this will come up on my CRB check for nursing - will it always come up on every CRB check i have for the rest of my life or will it at some point expire? Also, if it did come up on the CRB would it affect my application?

    Thanks
    I'm REALLY surprised that was on your CRB...it's not a crime ?
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    (Original post by laeof)
    I'm REALLY surprised that was on your CRB...it's not a crime ?
    I know, I hadn't told the nursery where I was working because I wasn't expecting it to come up....so it looked kind of bad, like I'd been trying to hide it
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I know, I hadn't told the nursery where I was working because I wasn't expecting it to come up....so it looked kind of bad, like I'd been trying to hide it
    Aye, i'm surprised it was on your CRB to start with - I thought CRB was just a criminal background check?
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    (Original post by laeof)
    Aye, i'm surprised it was on your CRB to start with - I thought CRB was just a criminal background check?
    For environments working with children or vulnerable people they tend to do enhanced CRB checks, and enhanced CRB checks can contain any information that the police hold about you that they deem relevant. Whether something is disclosed or not is down to the discretion of the individual force, but it may be that they just play 'better safe than sorry' and release everything.

    Having said that, CRB checks have recently changed to the Disclosure and Barring Service, which aims to be more fair. You can now challenge the information on the DBS certificate, and according to Rethink "in some cases the police may invite you to put your views forward about the information before they disclose it to a potential employer."

    According to the new Disclosure & Barring Service information, information should not be released purely for being mental health related - they should consider if it is serious enough to justify its inclusion, relevance to the job in question, whether it was in the past, etc. So based on that, I can't see that they should include it - I'm really surprised it even showed up before, so now they've changed it I would be even more surprised.

    There's a lot of information about what is included etc here, but based on what you've said you shouldn't have any issues at all.
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    (Original post by Liv1204)
    For environments working with children or vulnerable people they tend to do enhanced CRB checks, and enhanced CRB checks can contain any information that the police hold about you that they deem relevant. Whether something is disclosed or not is down to the discretion of the individual force, but it may be that they just play 'better safe than sorry' and release everything.

    Having said that, CRB checks have recently changed to the Disclosure and Barring Service, which aims to be more fair. You can now challenge the information on the DBS certificate, and according to Rethink "in some cases the police may invite you to put your views forward about the information before they disclose it to a potential employer."

    According to the new Disclosure & Barring Service information, information should not be released purely for being mental health related - they should consider if it is serious enough to justify its inclusion, relevance to the job in question, whether it was in the past, etc. So based on that, I can't see that they should include it - I'm really surprised it even showed up before, so now they've changed it I would be even more surprised.

    There's a lot of information about what is included etc here, but based on what you've said you shouldn't have any issues at all.
    Thanks for that info, it makes me feel a lot better hopefully it just wouldn't show up on another CRB
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    It possibly will come up, but the most important thing is that you declare it beforehand - all unis give you the opportunity to disclose before the form is sent off. If you don't declare it, and it shows up on the crb, then it is highly likely you will be rejected, not because of what it showed but because you weren't honest with them.
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    enhanced disclosure is intended to show potential risks in your new job –if it comes up there is a new independent review procedure.– it is up to the police initially whether they ask for this to be put on – some will and some may not – if it comes up try and get specialised advice to help get this removed but if you have never been any risk to anyone else it should not be on-
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    the police can ask for any information they have to go on an enhanced CRB check. in order to protect vulnerable people. However, there is a review procedure and if this was some years ago and there have been no problems since Re: yourself let alone you being a risk to other people and perhaps with a letter from your GP and other testimonials and by reference to various court guidelines which the police should follow, then I think that you should have good prospects of getting this removed from your CRB check
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    Nothing definitive but I've had the police over twice for that kind of thing and 136 section and nothing came up on my enhanced CRB.
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    the strengths and weakness of the enhanced disclosure system is it is complete flexibility- each time the police had asked to do one they have to review whether some information should go on –some jobs are riskier than others, or may be relevant to the incident, when another job may notbe
    it is possible for you to have a few clear CRB checks and then an incident which was not put on is put on – if there has been no change in the risk factors (or you have not come to the notice of the police again on another matter) you would certainly have very good grounds thento appeal against disclosure – it is very difficult to ensure that very honourable people are protected without sometimes badly affecting individuals who may have minor background problems – if something ever comes up. You may be able to appeal and you should try and get good advice from someone who deals with this type regularly

    Would not wish to panic. Anybody but with all the newspaper stories digging up – please are cautious and do sometimes but on minor matters to protect the public and if so please remember you can object to an enhanced disclosure

    David Wacks
 
 
 
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