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    (Original post by confusd_puzzled)
    what you mean by especially palestinians. have you even seen the figures? About 1000 isrealis have been killed since 2000 and compare that to 3000 palestinians killed since 2000. So who is the one thats causing more violence. If you had a brain you would have worked out that the answer is israel.
    Somehow those figures don't really ring true. Where'd you find them?
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    (Original post by zombie)
    Somehow those figures don't really ring true. Where'd you find them?
    http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...8715685.htm?1c
    Paragraph 15
    http://quickstart.clari.net/voa/art/...AA7748F66.html
    Somewhere near the middle
    http://www.frif.com/new2004/jun.html
    http://www.sptimes.com/2004/03/25/ne...f_Israel.shtml
    http://www.jewishtelegraph.com/dershowi.html
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/ma...gaza-m19.shtml
    http://www.myjewishlearning.com/hist.../Intifada2.htm
    According to this ISRAELI source the figures are 600 Israelis and 3000 Palestinians killed since 2000.
    http://www.stjoan.com/er4/conflict.htm
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries...194641,00.html
    http://jewishdelaware.esmartweb.com/home.htm
    http://www.americanthinker.com/artic...rticle_id=3414
    http://www.asuwebdevil.com/news/2003...n-561485.shtml
    I could carry on forever these are just some of the sources i found by a quick search in google. If you want some more than just say so.
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    another fantastically predictable, void-of-political-reason thread...do continue.
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    another fantastically predictable, void-of-political-reason thread...do continue.
    It's an old thread, vienna, but if you have objections to any of the points don't keep them to yourself.
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    (Original post by llama boy)
    It's an old thread, vienna,
    and yet the 'arguments' dont move on...
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    and yet the 'arguments' dont move on...
    If you dont wanna make a point than ignore the thread u geordie
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    (Original post by confusd_puzzled)
    If you dont wanna make a point than ignore the thread u geordie
    i believe i did. t'geule, koi!
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    i believe i did. t'geule, koi!
    I think most of us would find it a bit more convenient if you talked in English. I know you are trying to show off you biliteral abilities but as far I know you might be swearing at me. Anyway ill try to find out what t'geule, koi! means.
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    (Original post by confusd_puzzled)
    I think most of us would find it a bit more convenient if you talked in English. I know you are trying to show off you biliteral abilities but as far I know you might be swearing at me. Anyway ill try to find out what t'geule, koi! means.
    hehe..is this yawn1? the obsessive tendencies just seem too familiar
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    hehe..is this yawn1? the obsessive tendencies just seem too familiar
    Oh yea you get me in my act.
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    Who is/was Yawn1
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    (Original post by confusd_puzzled)
    Oh yea you get me in my act.
    are you British?
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    are you British?
    Whats that got do with anything?
    but yes iam why?
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    if u knew more about the history of the land and the history before the occupation of jews in Palestine maybe you would understand, i cant help but say u are naive.
    you dont quite understand the situation... the land belonged to the palestinians and everyone was living hapilly before the jews came along and declared it was theirs. its a bit more complicated than that of course.... after the second world war the jews needed a place to stay, they put them in palestine coz they didnt know where else to place them, the palestinians felt sorry for the jews for all the suffering they had gone thru and helped them start a new life in their country, but it wasnt enough for some, they wanted to rule the country and went to war and won.... basically what im trying to say is get ur facts straight before u blame one side and not the other...
    Both sides have the innocent and the guilty, but what people dont understand is the occupation is the problem causing the suicide bombings, but what is causing even more suicide bombings is the killing of innocent people including children in the west bank and gazza, which is causing more people dying

    i dont agree with palestinian suicide bombs but its is their only weapon
    its seems to me that if u have an army its legal to kill and if u fight without an army for the freedom of ur country ur condemed and called a terrorist
    what is the world coming to?
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    (Original post by kriztinae)

    i dont agree with palestinian suicide bombs but its is their only weapon
    its seems to me that if u have an army its legal to kill and if u fight without an army for the freedom of ur country ur condemed and called a terrorist
    what is the world coming to?
    but the difference is that suicide bombers target civilians, but the army targets (so they say) militants.

    ps: i'm not defeding either side by teh way, just want to point out the difference.
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    they say" we target militants" but how many civilians have they killed in the Rafa(think thats what its called) refugee camp.... too many and many children and women
    the palestinians must feel that why must they live a life full of death and suffering, when the jews are living a wonderful life in our country
    thats why i think they started these suicide bombings in the first place
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    (Original post by kriztinae)
    they say" we target militants" but how many civilians have they killed in the Rafa(think thats what its called) refugee camp.... too many and many children and women
    the palestinians must feel that why must they live a life full of death and suffering, when the jews are living a wonderful life in our country
    thats why i think they started these suicide bombings in the first place
    i dont agree with what the isreali army is doing but that IS the difference.

    we you be happy if they created an independent palestinian state? or would you like the whole of isreal to be palestine?
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    thats just it an independant palestinian state will never occur, Israels greatest fear is that, if they form a proper state they can do what they want, import bombs train an army with no israel intervention and israel wont accept that
    they have given them some land to live on thats basically it, if they gave them an independant state they wud be happy, but it wont happen,
    they wud supposedly hav an "independant state" but everythin goin in and out of the country wud be monitored, taxes wud be collected by the israeli government, etc etc, that was the proposed plan which was rejected by the palestinians couple of years ago, and i don blame them
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    (Original post by confusd_puzzled)
    Whats that got do with anything?
    but yes iam why?
    "Oh yea you get me in my act"
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    (Original post by kriztinae)
    thats just it an independant palestinian state will never occur, Israels greatest fear is that, if they form a proper state they can do what they want, import bombs train an army with no israel intervention and israel wont accept that
    they have given them some land to live on thats basically it, if they gave them an independant state they wud be happy, but it wont happen,
    they wud supposedly hav an "independant state" but everythin goin in and out of the country wud be monitored, taxes wud be collected by the israeli government, etc etc, that was the proposed plan which was rejected by the palestinians couple of years ago, and i don blame them
    but all palestinian extremists want the whole of israel to be palestine, thats part of the problem. if an idependent country does get created, i'm sure it will be INDEPENDENT. at the moment the palestinian terotories are part of isreal
 
 
 
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