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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I think Cameron, Miliband and Clegg will all go fairly quickly once we have some kind of government. The next PM will then get some headline bills through (hence lords reform and the EU referendum) and then provided the economy looks good they'll try call an election.
    I don't think Cleggy will go as quickly as one may think. After all, he is the Lib Dem's most successful leader. If he manages to get into another coalition, he'll get another term.

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    I don't think Cleggy will go as quickly as one may think. After all, he is the Lib Dem's most successful leader. If he manages to get into another coalition, he'll get another term.
    I'm more talking about Clegg losing his actual MP seat.
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    I don't think Cleggy will go as quickly as one may think. After all, he is the Lib Dem's most successful leader. If he manages to get into another coalition, he'll get another term.

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    Naa, Farron or Vince will move against him.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    I'm more talking about Clegg losing his actual MP seat.
    It would be quite funny. He seems confident he won't though.

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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Naa, Farron or Vince will move against him.
    If Vince becomes Leader that pretty much rules out coalition with the Tories while Cameron's leader. He hates him after the whole Post Office thingy

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    Alex Brooker & Nick Clegg Showdown! - The Last Leg: http://youtu.be/BLGjPuaEgyw

    Thought Old Cleggy didn't too badly on The Last Leg a few weeks ago. Actually pretty funny.

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    It would be quite funny. He seems confident he won't though.
    He can't really say otherwise haha

    The Ashcroft poll puts labour a few points ahead - worrying for Cleggy but the number of uni students in his constituency is pretty damn high.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    He can't really say otherwise haha

    The Ashcroft poll puts labour a few points ahead - worrying for Cleggy but the number of uni students in his constituency is pretty damn high.
    True :P

    It must be worrying for him. My own constituency is quite tight between Libs and Labour. Our MP is Lynne Featherstone

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    True :P

    It must be worrying for him. My own constituency is quite tight between Libs and Labour. Our MP is Lynne Featherstone
    'Behead Clegg' they're calling it. I'm quite interested in seeing what'd happen if Libs didn't come out too badly nationally but with Clegg himself out of the Commons.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    'Behead Clegg' they're calling it. I'm quite interested in seeing what'd happen if Libs didn't come out too badly nationally but with Clegg himself out of the Commons.
    If he didn't stand down he'd surely get VoNCed?

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    If he didn't stand down he'd surely get VoNCed?
    Very probably. Back to the European Parliament and then a lordship perhaps.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Very probably. Back to the European Parliament and then a lordship perhaps.
    Most likely. He has alot to offer. He had/has the right beliefs (to my personal taste, minus one or two things) but didn't have the MP's or the backbone to enforce them.

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    Most likely. He has alot to offer. He had/has the right beliefs (to my personal taste, minus one or two things) but didn't have the MP's or the backbone to enforce them.
    He's a reasonably decent politician but he's propping up a bad government and I'm not sure how much of it is due to him.
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    If Vince becomes Leader that pretty much rules out coalition with the Tories while Cameron's leader. He hates him after the whole Post Office thingy

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    There won't be coalition, it will be confidence and supply and the deal will be agreed before Cameron and Clegg go. I'm not sure Vince will win but he or Farron will call the Vonc if Clegg does not go willingly. They'll stick to the deal for lords reform and the fact their vote will increase in the second election.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    He's a reasonably decent politician but he's propping up a bad government and I'm not sure how much of it is due to him.
    I think he got an unfair share of the flack for the tuition fees. The Tories and Labour hardly got any, even though all apart from 6 Tories and quite a few Labour MPs voted for it

    Edit: No Lab MP's voted for it.

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    I think he got an unfair share of the flack for the tuition fees. The Tories and Labour hardly got any, even though all apart from 6 Tories and quite a few Labour MPs voted for it
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
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    The rise in Tuition Fees

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    The rise in Tuition Fees
    Labour MPs didn't vote for that.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    He's a reasonably decent politician but he's propping up a bad government and I'm not sure how much of it is due to him.
    I blame the fixed term parliament act. The first 3 years saw plenty of liberal stuff from the coalition agreement but since that stuff was out of the way its kind of become a Tory government.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    A second election in which Cameron does not win will be too much and we know Clegg will go anyway but they will be there for the negotiations.

    Confidence and supply is not coalition, the Libs won't be punished for the later once Clegg goes.
    They will be if the Conservatives don't win a plurality - just as they would have been if they had supported Brown's successor five years ago. The chance for the Lib Dems was in May 2010 - allow Cameron as the winner of the most seats to become prime minister on the confidence and supply arrangement and they could've held the Tories proverbially by the short and curlies, - and had the Tories abused the arrangement probably gained seats instead of kidding themselves that 35 seats on May 8th is a good result.

    The problem is that even if the Lib Dems opt for confidence and supply there is no way to make that distinguishable now - people will see it again as the Lib Dems keeping the Tories in.
 
 
 
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