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    What are the top 10? League tables vary with some universities, so I'm looking for a list of the top 10 most consistently high, and also the one's which are respected by Law firms. Which are most respected? Thanks xxxxx


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    Personally i would put it at in terms of a firms perspective (bear in mine within the separate groups they are in no particular order
    Oxford
    Cambridge

    LSE

    UCL
    Nottingham
    Bristol
    Kings
    Durham
    Warwick

    Birmingham
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    Cambridge
    Oxford
    LSE
    UCL
    Nottingham
    Bristol
    Exeter
    Kings
    Warwick
    Durham

    Birm/sheff/leeds/liverpool/QMUL/Southampton/ Leicester/kent???maybe
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    (Original post by Enthusiastic A)
    What are the top 10? League tables vary with some universities, so I'm looking for a list of the top 10 most consistently high, and also the one's which are respected by Law firms. Which are most respected? Thanks xxxxx


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    There is no definitive list equivalent to the T14, rankings change too much here.

    It seems that Oxbridge continues to be a quite significant advantage in terms of entering the legal professions judging by page 23 here, this, this, this at page 49 for the Bar and this from Chambers Student. Of course statistics, like tequila, are best taken with a pinch of salt but the constant trend this way would suggest Oxbridge graduates definitely have a head start when it comes to the hunt for a TC/pupillage.

    In a way this makes sense, after all they are the only ones who do something demonstrably different with the students they get which would make them better than other unis would make them (one on one tutorials and weekly essays), whilst everywhere else taking a reasonable cohort of straight A students does very similar things (lectures, fairly regular small group tutorials and essays once or twice a term for each subject).

    Thus a group which was already quite likely amongst the best at 18/19 has had the most effort, time and money put into making it even better at 21/22, whilst everywhere else have done similar things and thus produce top graduates roughly in line with the number of top A Level students they managed to get in the first place. After all, if you're a recruiter and you have one candidate with A*A*A* and a high 2.1 from say Birmingham and another with AAA and a mid 2.1 from UCL you have to ask 'what have UCL done differently to Birmingham with this student to make them more appealing?' and the answer seems to be, objectively at least, not a huge amount other than having more of that type of student there.

    This isn't to say Oxbridge grads are always better, they aren't, but, because unis are offering very similar products outside those 2, where is 'good' for firms to go hunting depends as much on fashions amongst sixth formers 3/4 years ago as it does on what those unis you visit have actually been doing with them since. This makes it very hard to pin down a certain 'top 10', because fashions change quite quickly.

    Anyway, here's some unis that could probably be in with a shout of being 'top 10' depending who you talk to:

    Oxford
    Cambridge
    LSE
    UCL
    KCL
    Nottingham
    Durham
    Bristol
    Warwick
    Birmingham
    Manchester
    Exeter
    QMUL
    SOAS
    Glasgow
    Edinburgh

    Less frequently but still might be thrown in:
    Leeds
    Sheffield
    York
    Newcastle
    Soton
    Leicester
    Reading
    Liverpool
    Lancaster
    Cardiff

    I've probably missed a few.
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    I think generally

    Oxford
    Cambridge
    LSE
    UCL
    Nottingham
    Durham
    Bristol
    KCL
    Warwick
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    The ones listed on the last page of this I suppose

    http://d1d1tdqerevjwu.cloudfront.net...university.pdf
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    (Original post by NoGoodOnesLeft)
    Personally i would put it at in terms of a firms perspective (bear in mine within the separate groups they are in no particular order
    Oxford
    Cambridge

    LSE

    UCL
    Nottingham
    Bristol
    Kings
    Durham
    Warwick

    Birmingham
    Why would UCL be in a separate group to the LSE? some places rank it higher for law and the average applicant has more UCAS points (it varies each year, of course). Not to mention that UCL is as much of a target uni for top law firms as the LSE. Personally, I'd say they were even; however, even if you gave the LSE a slight edge, I fail to see how it could be put in an entirely different group...
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    (Original post by McMurdo)
    Why would UCL be in a separate group to the LSE? some places rank it higher for law and the average applicant has more UCAS points (it varies each year, of course). Not to mention that UCL is as much of a target uni for top law firms as the LSE. Personally, I'd say they were even; however, even if you gave the LSE a slight edge, I fail to see how it could be put in an entirely different group...
    Purely due to international reputation. Though on paper it is relatively even the name will turn more heads particularly among American or Asian firms.
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    (Original post by NoGoodOnesLeft)
    Purely due to international reputation. Though on paper it is relatively even the name will turn more heads particularly among American or Asian firms.
    Even with regards to reputation, I'd say they are very much on par. Again, even if you gave LSE the edge, it isn't enough to warrant that much of a distinction. Among Asian firms, I'd say there's virtually no, if any, difference. Among US ones, it's not that significant. I'd say it's just too close overall to put them in entirely different brackets, especially as the overall brand name of UCL is also comparable (and in some places more recognised)
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    (Original post by McMurdo)
    Even with regards to reputation, I'd say they are very much on par. Again, even if you gave LSE the edge, it isn't enough to warrant that much of a distinction. Among Asian firms, I'd say there's virtually no, if any, difference. Among US ones, it's not that significant. I'd say it's just too close overall to put them in entirely different brackets, especially as the overall brand name of UCL is also comparable (and in some places more recognised)
    To be fair, LSE does have a better reputation than UCL overseas, especially in North America in my experience. I would agree though,, that people cannot justify placing LSE in a tier by itself.
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    (Original post by roh)
    Oxford
    Cambridge
    LSE
    UCL
    KCL
    Nottingham
    Durham
    Bristol
    Warwick
    Birmingham
    Manchester
    Exeter
    QMUL
    SOAS
    Glasgow
    Edinburgh
    Beezer.

    Although threads such as this should always be read subject to the post Nulli made months ago where he was able to find 30+ 'top ten' law schools.
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    (Original post by Cutmeloose)
    To be fair, LSE does have a better reputation than UCL overseas, especially in North America in my experience. I would agree though,, that people cannot justify placing LSE in a tier by itself.
    It has a slight edge overall, but not by much. Only in the US is there an edge, really.But yes, like you said, even if it does have the slight edge in that respect, it certainly doesn't deserve its own tier.
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    (Original post by Norton1)
    Beezer.

    Although threads such as this should always be read subject to the post Nulli made months ago where he was able to find 30+ 'top ten' law schools.
    Had to google that, clearly not down with the kids.

    Also, didn't know you went to Glasgow (assuming urban dictionary hasn't lied to me), I know a few Glasgow lawyers from year abroad (if you know anyone who went to strasbourg).
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    (Original post by ed-)
    The ones listed on the last page of this I suppose

    http://d1d1tdqerevjwu.cloudfront.net...university.pdf
    Worth noting that "best law departments" and "best universities" do not always correlate. Leicester, for example, has a respected LLB and lots of firms attend its law fair, but it's rare you'll see it in a list of the UK top-10 unis.
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    What matters is the opinion of law firms, and that will always the Oxbridge 2. Honestly about half of trainees seem to be Oxbridge educated, and the rest LSE/UCL/Durham etc
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    (Original post by Mr_Slant)
    What matters is the opinion of law firms, and that will always the Oxbridge 2. Honestly about half of trainees seem to be Oxbridge educated, and the rest LSE/UCL/Durham etc
    In the last year 3372 new solicitors had law degrees. Even if every law graduate from those universities became a solicitor (and they don't) that would be less than 1/3 of that number.
 
 
 
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