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    (Original post by Redolent)
    I don't really see how classical liberalism is "conservative" seeing as conservatism as a defined political movement was a reaction against liberalism, and generally refers to social policies rather than economic policies. How do you think they are comparable?
    again, are you sure you're not mixing up classical with social liberalism? classical, government interference with the market is minimal? and it's on the right side of the political spectrum(thus conservative)?
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    (Original post by an drej)
    again, are you sure you're not mixing up classical with social liberalism? classical, government interference with the market is minimal? and it's on the right side of the political spectrum(thus conservative)?
    I really don't understand what you're getting at, or why what I said means liberalism is comparable with fascism. What does minimal government interference have to do with fascism? Also it's not accurate to say right-wing and conservative are synonyms. Conservatism (the social right-wing) is generally seen as a support of preserving social hierarchies, whereas a lot of modern right-wingers seek only to preserve economic hierarchies (while maximising social freedom) and are therefore not conservatives.

    Again I'm not sure how liberalism as a whole is anything like fascism. A core principle of liberalism is civil libertarianism (freedom from interference as long as you do not harm others) which is pretty much the complete opposite of fascism (which generally involves a totalitarian state with a strict set of rules).
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    on the level of political consciousness, I think it's not hard to identify both ideologies as conservative, insofar as both liberalism and fascism try to preserve the old socio-economic order defined by the inequality of wealth and class divisions. only fascism achieves this by means of violence.
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    (Original post by an drej)
    on the level of political consciousness, I think it's not hard to identify both ideologies as conservative, insofar as both liberalism and fascism try to preserve the old socio-economic order defined by the inequality of wealth and class divisions. only fascism achieves this by means of violence.
    What ideology do you identify with, out of curiosity? I would argue that social liberalism is a healthy compromise between socialist and capitalist principles.
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    (Original post by Carrotcake18)
    not to mention theyre the best conspiracy theorists ever. Whenever on CNN comments I debate with people on the Syrian crisis, l1btards are all like "ITS THE WEST CIA MOSSAD MI6 SAUDI QATAR WANTING SYRIAS OIL !!!!"

    Here's a meaningful qoute from the movie Mean Girls:

    There are two types of evil people-People who do evil stuff and people who see evil stuff being done and don't try to stop it.
    Have you ever heard of Alex Jones? He's a right wing american nutjob who's very well known in the US. He has a Radio show on conspiracy theories. He claimed that the government was turning people gay by putting chemicals in our food
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    Liberals aren't socialists...


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    (Original post by Redolent)
    What ideology do you identify with, out of curiosity? I would argue that social liberalism is a healthy compromise between socialist and capitalist principles.
    I too believe there is no better alternative to social democracy at present, but as you can see very soon we might become the minority. welfare state dream is slowly coming to an end and unless something new and promising emerges from the left, nothing good awaits us.
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    Can't help but agree.
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    (Original post by Imperial_Maniac)
    Liberals aren't socialists...


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    They can be.
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    (Original post by Aeneas)
    They can be.
    Yeah but they're nowhere near the same thing.
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    (Original post by Imperial_Maniac)
    Yeah but they're nowhere near the same thing.
    It depends on what you think Liberalism is. I think it's fairly clear that Liberalism is a strand of thought that emphasizes the importance of particular individual rights. And various strands of socialism are compatible with at least certain conceptions of liberalism. THE liberal, JS Mill, was of this opinion too.
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    (Original post by Aeneas)
    It depends on what you think Liberalism is. I think it's fairly clear that Liberalism is a strand of thought that emphasizes the importance of particular individual rights. And various strands of socialism are compatible with at least certain conceptions of liberalism. THE liberal, JS Mill, was of this opinion too.
    Agreed. Socialists such as Oscar Wilde were concerned with preserving individual autonomy whilst trying to reconcile this with some notion of social harmony.

    Extreme solipsism is just as unhealthy as extreme collectivism.
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    I like it when people make references to right wing nutjobs.

    Have you heard of that guy Stalin? i heard he killed like 60 million people lol. What a nutjob.
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    (Original post by Jordan-James)
    I like it when people make references to right wing nutjobs.

    Have you heard of that guy Stalin? i heard he killed like 60 million people lol. What a nutjob.
    lol
 
 
 
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