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    (Original post by Drewski)
    Actually, history would tell us most of the errors in that arena are caused by politicians who don't understand the nature of fighting and warfare because they've got precisely no experience of it. They then get the military into situations that are less than ideal and make the situation far messier than needed.

    But equally worrying, is the large percentage [though, realistically, still a minority] of the US public who would be 'happy' for a war.



    A billion? :rolleyes: Let's start by being vaguely realistic.
    A Korean war would not turn into a world war, there isn't 'enough' at stake for other countries to get involved. Certainly no European nations would feel threatened.
    how do u know?

    thats what everyone thought during world war 2.....what did america and japan have anything to do with germanys insane attacks in Europe?

    think about it pal....they never had anything at stake...so why did they get involved?
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    (Original post by study beats)
    if america tries anything stupid...then i would say there are atleast 5 countries waiting to nuke the USA...

    so its not only north korea who would get battered
    I'm intrigued to know what five countries they are. I can only think of two, neither of which is in a strong position to do so.
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    Actually, history would tell us most of the errors in that arena are caused by politicians who don't understand the nature of fighting and warfare because they've got precisely no experience of it. They then get the military into situations that are less than ideal and make the situation far messier than needed.

    But equally worrying, is the large percentage [though, realistically, still a minority] of the US public who would be 'happy' for a war.



    A billion? :rolleyes: Let's start by being vaguely realistic.
    A Korean war would not turn into a world war, there isn't 'enough' at stake for other countries to get involved. Certainly no European nations would feel threatened.



    Oh be quiet. While one or two nations may think badly about the US, none of them would actively want to nuke them. And even fewer of them actually could.

    The mainland US is in no way threatened.
    i think the US is easily threatened, people have submarines and jet planes
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    (Original post by mmmpie)
    I'm intrigued to know what five countries they are. I can only think of two, neither of which is in a strong position to do so.
    umm let me see

    iraq
    iran
    the whole middle east basically (strong militaries and some nukes)
    pakistan
    india
    north korea
    china (maybe)
    japan (maybe want revenge from WW2)
    russia also maybe?
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    (Original post by study beats)
    how do u know?

    thats what everyone thought during world war 2.....what did america and japan have anything to do with germanys insane attacks in Europe?

    think about it pal....they never had anything at stake...so why did they get involved?
    They had plenty at stake.
    Japan were violently increasing their empire, threatening everything in the Pacific area, including our commonwealth nations. The US did not want to be surrounded by nations intent on warmongering and rapid expansion and were begged to get involved by nations who were directly threatened.

    This situation is different. If the war restarts [it never technically ended] it will be due to NK aggression and the US will assist the South. It's most likely that China will not get involved, except closing it's border to NK to prevent millions of refugees flooding into them.
    There is little to no scope for other nations to attack the US, as they're basically the only country capable of fighting wars on more than one front.
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    (Original post by study beats)
    i think the US is easily threatened, people have submarines and jet planes
    (Original post by study beats)
    umm let me see

    iraq
    iran
    the whole middle east basically (strong militaries and some nukes)
    pakistan
    india
    north korea
    china (maybe)
    japan (maybe want revenge from WW2)
    russia also maybe?
    You're deranged.
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    I can't see North Korea actually taking offensive military action. More likely then not, this is a political propaganda play by Kim Jong Un - presenting his nation as strong to his people when in actuality it's severly crippled.

    Kim Jong Un may be insane, but I don't think that even he believes that NC would win in a conflict against America.
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    You're deranged.
    scared bro?
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    They had plenty at stake.
    Japan were violently increasing their empire, threatening everything in the Pacific area, including our commonwealth nations. The US did not want to be surrounded by nations intent on warmongering and rapid expansion and were begged to get involved by nations who were directly threatened.

    This situation is different. If the war restarts [it never technically ended] it will be due to NK aggression and the US will assist the South. It's most likely that China will not get involved, except closing it's border to NK to prevent millions of refugees flooding into them.
    There is little to no scope for other nations to attack the US, as they're basically the only country capable of fighting wars on more than one front.
    USAs attack on north korea would put other countries in the surrounding area at risk because of the dangerous attacks wouldnt it?
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    (Original post by study beats)
    scared bro?
    I am not your 'bro'.

    And I'd be scared if you were at the button. But thankfully, even North Korea aren't insane enough to put someone as mentally deficient as you in charge of weapons.
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    (Original post by HumanSupremacist)
    This isn't a movie, little dear.

    Countries are not just going to simply pop off nukes like there's no tomorrow. Even with Japan and the US, the US did not just pop off a nuke without any foresight and deliberation and just pressed the button dancing around as if it was the funniest thing in the world.
    ur one who thinks this is call of duty
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    (Original post by study beats)
    ur one who thinks this is call of duty
    What? How?
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    I am not your 'bro'.

    And I'd be scared if you were at the button. But thankfully, even North Korea aren't insane enough to put someone as mentally deficient as you in charge of weapons.
    ur views on things are stupid

    how can u actually not see america stupid involvement in things to harm other people and gain their own benefit
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    (Original post by study beats)
    USAs attack on north korea would put other countries in the surrounding area at risk because of the dangerous attacks wouldnt it?
    And that includes Iraq how? It's 4,500 miles away.

    And of the other countries nearby, South Korea is firmly with the US. Japan is firmly with the US, China needs the US more than it needs NK and Russia is in no position to do anything about it.
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    lol North Korea are a joke.

    They can make threats all they like, but the truth is that they're stuck in the middle ages and they're comparatively militarily powerless. Even if they had a nuclear bomb they wouldn't be much threat to us.

    I honestly can't wait for the rest of the world to say ENOUGH and to finally invade North Korea. What they're doing to their people is horrendous and it should stop.
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    (Original post by study beats)
    umm let me see

    iraq
    iran
    the whole middle east basically (strong militaries and some nukes)
    pakistan
    india
    north korea
    china (maybe)
    japan (maybe want revenge from WW2)
    russia also maybe?
    In the middle east, only Iran and Israel have nuclear technology. In spite of all the fuss over the last ten years, Iran does not appear to have a functioning nuclear weapon (nobody trusts them not to use it if they did, hence the fuss). Israel is one of the US's closest allies.

    Pakistan is more concerned with India, and only has land-launched IRBMs so no risk to the US anyway. India is more concerned with Pakistan, and has no great enmity with the US. India is also sufficiently tied in with the west world that they can be relied upon to grasp MAD, and anyway maintaining good relations with the US and Europe is in their economic interest.

    China and Russia are two of the five major nuclear weapon states; if we all managed not to wipe each other out in the cold war, it's certainly not going to happen now.

    Japan is another of the US's close allies, and also does not possess nuclear weapons. It's actually in the Japanese constitution that they cannot possess or develop nuclear weapons technology.

    Which leaves North Korea, which may or may not possess usable nuclear weapons but certainly does not have a long range delivery system. So again, little or no direct risk to the US.
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    And that includes Iraq how? It's 4,500 miles away.

    And of the other countries nearby, South Korea is firmly with the US. Japan is firmly with the US, China needs the US more than it needs NK and Russia is in no position to do anything about it.
    the radiation from nuke could flow in rivers and seas and affect other countries, people will be mad at the USA
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    (Original post by mmmpie)
    In the middle east, only Iran and Israel have nuclear technology. In spite of all the fuss over the last ten years, Iran does not appear to have a functioning nuclear weapon (nobody trusts them not to use it if they did, hence the fuss). Israel is one of the US's closest allies.

    Pakistan is more concerned with India, and only has land-launched IRBMs so no risk to the US anyway. India is more concerned with Pakistan, and has no great enmity with the US. India is also sufficiently tied in with the west world that they can be relied upon to grasp MAD, and anyway maintaining good relations with the US and Europe is in their economic interest.

    China and Russia are two of the five major nuclear weapon states; if we all managed not to wipe each other out in the cold war, it's certainly not going to happen now.

    Japan is another of the US's close allies, and also does not possess nuclear weapons. It's actually in the Japanese constitution that they cannot possess or develop nuclear weapons technology.

    Which leaves North Korea, which may or may not possess usable nuclear weapons but certainly does not have a long range delivery system. So again, little or no direct risk to the US.
    but what if all that could change?
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    (Original post by study beats)
    the radiation from nuke could flow in rivers and seas and affect other countries, people will be mad at the USA
    I don't think you have the faintest idea what you're talking about. There have been more nuclear detonations in the last seventy years than the worst case if North Korea hits the button; we're not all about to start glowing.
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    (Original post by study beats)
    but what if all that could change?
    Overnight?
 
 
 
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