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    (Original post by L'Evil Fish)
    Cuddle under the stars?
    wenn du willst


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    (Original post by thatitootoo)
    wenn du willst


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    What?
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    So after playing Dutch music earlier...
    I've found the snake in the hallway, escaping from my place this morning! He was so tiny though!!! - looked more like a big worm tbh
    Anyway...appropriate measures have been taken! And the snake has a new loving home (a good distance away from me and my Dutch music) now. Jeder freut sich :grin:


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    (Original post by boumavilla)
    Speaking of fluency...
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    Pardon the pun. :mmm:


    What does everyone think fluency means?

    I saw a website the other day, and it doesn't mean having a mother tongue, it's not quite as advanced as everyone thinks.

    But having a good degree of proficiency - ie, able to communicate well with another individual and able to understand what someone is saying with minimal assistance.

    On the A1-C2 chart, you're probably looking at B2.
    Well, when I speak of fluency I mean speaking it like a native speaker or almost like one. I'm wrong then.
    Would the correct word for it be native-speakerish? :P


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    (Original post by thatitootoo)
    So after playing Dutch music earlier...
    I've found the snake in the hallway, escaping from my place this morning! He was so tiny though!!! - looked more like a big worm tbh
    Anyway...appropriate measures have been taken! And the snake has a new loving home (a good distance away from me and my Dutch music) now. Jeder freut sich :grin:


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    The only Dutch music I know that isn't in English is Heidevolk. I'm not a big fan of them, but they're alright and they help you learn the language!

    (Original post by moaningmuffin)
    Well, when I speak of fluency I mean speaking it like a native speaker or almost like one. I'm wrong then.
    Would the correct word for it be native-speakerish? :P


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    Mother tongue would be the "native-speakerish" level. It's not so easy to get to that level when you're not from the country!
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    :woo: Romanian! I would love to learn it, and Swedish as well actually, but I'm already learning quite a few- French, Italian and Mandarin actively, but I also do little bits of Spanish (which I studied before in school), German, Esperanto and Welsh Some could say I'm crazy too!
    I'm on a native-speaker level in German, I could help you
    I considered Welsh too, but I'd get too confused with everything


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    (Original post by moaningmuffin)
    I'm on a native-speaker level in German, I could help you
    I considered Welsh too, but I'd get too confused with everything


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    How do you start German? I never get round to it.

    Der die das die

    That's the first said right?:smug:
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    (Original post by boumavilla)
    The only Dutch music I know that isn't in English is Heidevolk. I'm not a big fan of them, but they're alright and they help you learn the language!



    Mother tongue would be the "native-speakerish" level. It's not so easy to get to that level when you're not from the country!
    Nope. Germans wouldn't recognise me as a non-native.
    A few years ago I moved to Frankfurt with very little to no knowledge of German. After a year I was top of (native-speaker) German class at my school and it only improved.
    I found it easy, but probably because I was 9 back then and it's not hard at that age.


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    (Original post by L'Evil Fish)
    How do you start German? I never get round to it.

    Der die das die

    That's the first said right?:smug:
    Der die das?
    Nonono, don't start worrying about it at such an early stage.
    Umm, what about starting with the alphabet and pronunciation and then simple verbs?

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    (Original post by moaningmuffin)
    Der die das?
    Oh no. Even native-speakers sometimes struggle with it.
    I don't really know. I just started learning it because I lived there and I didn't speak any German until that point.
    Umm, what about starting with the alphabet and pronunciation and then with simple verbs.


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    The articles?

    Der Mann
    Die Frau
    Das Kinder
    ?

    Ich habe, du hast, er hat :lol: I don't know what I'm doing :mmm: I can't apply French or other romance languages to it :emo:
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    (Original post by L'Evil Fish)
    Ooooh, didn't know that, but okay :mmm:
    I know, it's a really random thing

    (Original post by moaningmuffin)
    I'm on a native-speaker level in German, I could help you
    I considered Welsh too, but I'd get too confused with everything


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    Ah, danke
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    (Original post by L'Evil Fish)
    The articles?

    Der Mann
    Die Frau
    Das Kinder
    ?

    Ich habe, du hast, er hat :lol: I don't know what I'm doing :mmm: I can't apply French or other romance languages to it :emo:
    Odd, that... [/Sarcasm]

    Have you considered applying a Germanic language to it? You, know, like, erm, English?

    Also it's das Kind and die Kinder.
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    (Original post by Octopus_Garden)
    Odd, that... [/Sarcasm]

    Have you considered applying a [I]Germanic language[/B] to it? You, know, like, erm, English?

    Also it's das Kind and die Kinder.
    You know what Octo, shut up

    :rofl: word order is so different...
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    (Original post by L'Evil Fish)
    You know what Octo, shut up

    :rofl: word order is so different...
    I think that perhaps you'll pick it up if you have a go. Like I have managed to stop handing in French homework with German word order. Because I have been (sort of) trying!
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    I think that perhaps you'll pick it up if you have a go. Like I have managed to stop handing in French homework with German word order. Because I have been (sort of) trying!
    I'm tempted to actually learn German which is annoying me because I feel it'll end badly.

    Okay. I'll start.

    I want to go to sleep.

    Word order = ?
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    (Original post by L'Evil Fish)
    I'm tempted to actually learn German which is annoying me because I feel it'll end badly.

    Okay. I'll start.

    I want to go to sleep.

    Word order = ?
    ich will zu schlafen gehen. I'm carefully avoiding introducing a separable verb to you here!
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    (Original post by L'Evil Fish)
    I'm tempted to actually learn German which is annoying me because I feel it'll end badly.

    Okay. I'll start.

    I want to go to sleep.

    Word order = ?
    Ich (pronoun) will (auxiliary verb) schlafen gehen (verbs?!).
    If you'd ask
    'Do I want to go to sleep?', it would be:
    Will ich schlafen gehen?
    Then the pronoun is after the auxiliary verb.





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    (Original post by Octopus_Garden)
    ich will zu schlafen gehen. I'm carefully avoiding introducing a separable verb to you here!
    Wrong!
    Don't include the 'zu'.
    If you tried to sleep you'd use it.
    Ich versuche, schlafen zu gehen.


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    (Original post by Octopus_Garden)
    ich will zu schlafen gehen. I'm carefully avoiding introducing a separable verb to you here!
    Anfangen is separable right? I remember that

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    Ich (pronoun) will (auxiliary verb) schlafen gehen (verbs?!).
    If you'd ask
    'Do I want to go to sleep?', it would be:
    Will ich schlafen gehen?
    Then the pronoun is after the auxiliary verb.





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    Why is:

    I want to go to sleep = I will sleep

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    (Original post by L'Evil Fish)
    Anfangen is separable right? I remember that



    Why is:

    I want to go to sleep = I will sleep

    IT IS INDEED!


    This is fun!

    'will' - 'wollen' = to want to

    so: I want = ich will
    & I will = Ich werde
    Simples


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