You kind of hope things have moved on from the days when Asian and black people from, say, London, did not venture into parts of the British countryside, visit the mountains, the Cotswolds, Devon, etc, for fear of the non-acceptance they would face there. I'm sure they have moved on a great deal, but you do wonder if it's still an issue for people from those backgrounds.(Original post by Hal.E.Lujah)
Hah, I remembered when I first moved out of London. It genuinely shocked me to find out that in fact the majority of the country really was white, and it's only in London that there's such a diverse population.
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I need a clear answer: Why are there so few black students in our 'top' universities? watch
- 15-03-2013 18:11
- 15-03-2013 18:14
There are very few black people in England to begin with. Also it seems to me that black Africans tend to be more of the types of blacks you see in the top unis.
My hypotheses is that, black Africans who come from abroad, are more encouraged to do well in education because their parents or grandparents have seen poverty hence value education more etc.
Also, a few of them came from single parent homes, deprived families, and maybe their parents may have not encouraged them enough.
I say this because in my year, (biggest black population)....hmmm maybe 15 black students. School population is 2200.
there are only 3 of us if not 2 who carried onto to year 13. We had 5 in year 12, but they failed.
The others went to college or got jobs, music/sports things. As far as I know, the don't plan to go to top unis.
From my experience through out school, my black friends were more absorbed in the hip-hop culture etc. Therefore more concerned about being popular, pursuing dreams in music, business, sport, etc. Less academically driven, hence less of them are seen at these top unis.
Being black myself, I was the odd one out during the later years when I started to take school more seriously. I was more concerned about doing well in school etc, so this made me an outcast to the others, because I was the nerdy one etc. So I didn't really fit in with them XD, and maybe because of that, our friendship broke up, because I was hanging out with the nerds.
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(Original post by Fullofsurprises)
- 15-03-2013 18:24
You kind of hope things have moved on from the days when Asian and black people from, say, London, did not venture into parts of the British countryside, visit the mountains, the Cotswolds, Devon, etc, for fear of the non-acceptance they would face there. I'm sure they have moved on a great deal, but you do wonder if it's still an issue for people from those backgrounds.
I think it is. I was shocked watching the X factor with my country bumpkin hall flatmates and hearing the racial abuse they hurled at Kelly Rowland. I think that's when I personally realised that London was really another country.
- 15-03-2013 18:50
There is a higher percentage of black people in the top universities than they are of the population, stop talking bull****.
- 15-03-2013 18:55
- 18-03-2013 16:28
bare man spent there cash on 10bags
- 18-03-2013 16:46
Lots of them are going to uni
Not sure how many of them are the top unis however.
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- 18-03-2013 16:50
Lol... I find this so amusingly odd. Is this common in the country, only knowing a few, if any, black people?
At the time of the 2011 census there were only 3616 black people living in Northern Ireland, that's 0.2% of the population.
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- 18-03-2013 17:33
Sorry for such a slow reply. I've read through every post so far.
I definitely have got a very skewed view of England, in terms of its demographics. Whilst visiting these universities, I am trying to mirror the make-up of the population of London... which obviously cannot happen. But, I am still a bit baffled as to why the universities I visited in London had even less black people than those outside London... perhaps it was just a mere coincidence. It's quite obvious the answer to my question is not that straightforward, there seems to be a number of factors which need to be considered.
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There's an interesting article by a bank-funded specialist recruiter/encourager, RARE, here, which explores the issues confronting black students with high school achievement rates.
One of the interesting paragraphs is about the way some young black people perceive the 'elite' institutions, which may be a factor in application rates.Last edited by 'Sup?; 18-03-2013 at 17:45.
- 18-03-2013 18:20
Most of the black students at top unis are international students from African countries anyway.