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    (Original post by venenecinema)
    It wasn't. It's only different in an incredibly superficial way.
    Meh, I don't support Murdoch or the majority of the right-wing press but I think it's seriously hypocritical to side with people who are in essence doing the same thing. I'm not really interested in talking in relatives, 500k a year is filthy rich in my (and most peoples') books.
    Rusbridger's conduct and some of the other members of the GMG Board hasn't been good, however, a lot of their bonus came from the Autotrader sale, that particular publication has been a spectacular success for GMG.

    The general point is that the Guardian remains one of the few sources of untainted journalism in the UK - anyone who studies the Telegraph, the Mail, etc, regularly, quickly learns that they reflect the positions of their owners in many supposedly journalistic pieces. They also have an absurd obsession with attacking the poor and immigrants which presumably is designed to create a hysterical atmosphere within which they can manipulate the Right.
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    (Original post by Jimbo1234)
    Because they are weak.
    They don't want to have to either think about their view or what they are saying. Instead they just spout liberal retort and think they are then claiming some moral high ground.
    Thanks I think TSR is the breeding ground of lefties
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Rusbridger's conduct and some of the other members of the GMG Board hasn't been good, however, a lot of their bonus came from the Autotrader sale, that particular publication has been a spectacular success for GMG.

    The general point is that the Guardian remains one of the few sources of untainted journalism in the UK - anyone who studies the Telegraph, the Mail, etc, regularly, quickly learns that they reflect the positions of their owners in many supposedly journalistic pieces. They also have an absurd obsession with attacking the poor and immigrants which presumably is designed to create a hysterical atmosphere within which they can manipulate the Right.
    They do, but surely you can accept that The Guardian leans excessively to the left? This is pretty much unavoidable since they've set themselves out in such a way that they simply can't cover some pretty significant topics because they don't fit in with the views of their owners/readership/political affiliations. I'd love it if there was a news organisation that wasn't driven by profits and wrote impartial articles without a clear 'tone'. Even if I agree with the sentiment of a biased article I still find it difficult to read.
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    The Guardian is centre left at best. Its broadly in support of capitalism, so to say it "leans excessively to the left" is bizarre.
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    (Original post by Kibalchich)
    The Guardian is centre left at best. Its broadly in support of capitalism, so to say it "leans excessively to the left" is bizarre.
    Compared to the Standard or the Metro it is
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    (Original post by a729)
    Compared to the Standard or the Metro it is
    What does "excessively to the left" mean? How far is not excessive?
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    (Original post by Kibalchich)
    What does "excessively to the left" mean? How far is not excessive?
    It is biased and makes the BBC seem impartial*

    * You are deluded if you think the BBC is totally unbiased as independent reports have said the BBC is pro-EU biased
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    (Original post by a729)
    It is biased and makes the BBC seem impartial*

    * You are deluded if you think the BBC is totally unbiased as independent reports have said the BBC is pro-EU biased
    Whut?
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    (Original post by TobaccoSmoke)
    I think a lot of English people have left wing opinions.

    Especially those who are politically uninformed or politically apathetic.

    If you were to take a survey on peoples political opinions, on average you would be likely to hear more left wing opinions than right wing opinions.

    This is especially true at universities. Left wing opinions are vastly more widespread than right wing opinions in academia.
    I agree that left wing opinions would be higher at universities. But surely that's because the opinions are from those who are fairly young and less conservative since university isn't entirely representative of the whole academia field.
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    (Original post by Kibalchich)
    Whut?
    an example of misleading incident (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...panellist.html)
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    ;41822469]'If you are not a liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you are not Conservative by 40, you have no brain'[/SIZE]
    The thing about this is that conservatism is merely the ideology of maintaining the status quo. The status quo often changes within the 20 years it takes to reach 40. Therefore, if one maintains the same positions then he/she may be progressive at one point in his/her life and then conservative at another. Like, for instance, if somebody supported legalising homosexuality in the 50s/60s without supporting anti-discriminatory laws for them, gay marriages/partnerships, etc. then they would likely have still be considered liberal at that time. If however, they maintained the same positions today then they would be considered conservative, perhaps even reactionary.

    Besides, are honestly saying there are no intelligent liberals over that age? I for one don't believe their are no altruistic (though I'm pretty sure the desire to help others comes from the brain and not the heart) conservatives at age 20.

    I think I started rambling there but hopefully I still made some good points.


    (Original post by Hal.E.Lujah)
    This says it all to me really. If you're right wing when you're young, you've not actually done much in your life to deserve your position.
    You don't need to earn a position... you just take it.
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    (Original post by a729)
    an example of misleading incident (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...panellist.html)
    Yeah, I saw all the idiots on Twitter getting their knickers in a twist about something that all parties do every week on Question Time. A total non-story.

    Now - What does "excessively to the left" mean? How far is not excessive?
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    Because people get a mild satisfaction by convincing themselves they care about others when naturally they only care about themselves and their family. But this has gotten out of control and has become a popular mindset.
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    (Original post by thecrazycanes)
    Because people get a mild satisfaction by convincing themselves they care about others when naturally they only care about themselves and their family. But this has gotten out of control and has become a popular mindset.
    "naturally"? What does this mean? Are nurses "unnatural"?
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    (Original post by a729)
    How?
    If there's no reward for working harder than the rest , we'd all be in trouble


    And as the beloved Maggie said the biggest problem with Socialism is when you run out of other people's money!!
    And tell me, who do business people make their money from? Who buys their products?
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    (Original post by thecrazycanes)
    Because people get a mild satisfaction by convincing themselves they care about others when naturally they only care about themselves and their family. But this has gotten out of control and has become a popular mindset.
    That's so true - people tend to vote for whoever gives the most freebies !
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    (Original post by consumed by stuff)
    this isnt you, okay.
    It's certainly not you
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    (Original post by nebelbon)
    Yes OP you are correct! The left wing people on here are blind and ignorant. They refuse to accept that their system has failed mutliple times.

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    Thanks!
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    (Original post by Bipolarb3ar)
    We are told from an early age that if you dont lean to the left then you are a racist bigot
    How true that is


    Never mind if you suggest that immigration is too high or that we would be better of outside the EU
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    (Original post by a729)
    It's certainly not you
    too populer
 
 
 
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