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    (Original post by a729)
    Especially today lool!
    Shes currently occupying my last thread about the left not caring about the working class telling the world how she loves chocolate. I wonder what is next.
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    (Original post by dj1015)
    Shes currently occupying my last thread about the left not caring about the working class telling the world how she loves chocolate. I wonder what is next.
    I was in shock when she said Osborne was more morally wrong to park in a disabled parking space than Ed Balls who was using his phone and could have potentially killed someone

    Just because of her political affiliation!
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    Non workers who are claiming benifits from the welfare state should be made to do some form of voluntary work in exchange for their money.

    However only 3% of the welfare state is spent on people who don't work. Over 47% is spent on pensions.
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    (Original post by a729)
    I was in shock when she said Osborne was more morally wrong to park in a disabled parking space than Ed Balls who was using his phone and could have potentially killed someone

    Just because of her political affiliation!
    Some people will never learn. Sadly, she has the born to rule attitude and will be straight off to a Labour research office upon graduation. Its the career and would be career politicians that are ruining this country.
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    (Original post by xxchloexo)
    Non workers who are claiming benifits from the welfare state should be made to do some form of voluntary work in exchange for their money.

    However only 3% of the welfare state is spent on people who don't work. Over 47% is spent on pensions.
    3% too much.
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    (Original post by dj1015)
    3% too much.
    I agree but there needs to be the jobs for people to do. There are a small minority of benifit claimers that do not want to find a job, but alot of them do.
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    (Original post by xxchloexo)
    I agree but there needs to be the jobs for people to do. There are a small minority of benifit claimers that do not want to find a job, but alot of them do.
    Instead of giving people tax free lump sums every week, how about "non working credit". The same, but it is repayable upon obtaining employment.
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    (Original post by dj1015)
    Some people will never learn. Sadly, she has the born to rule attitude and will be straight off to a Labour research office upon graduation. Its the career and would be career politicians that are ruining this country.
    Who knows maybe she could be the new Polly Tonybee!

    We need people with real life experience in politics
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    (Original post by dj1015)
    Instead of giving people tax free lump sums every week, how about "non working credit". The same, but it is repayable upon obtaining employment.
    That sounds good, but it would again reward the people who don't want to get a job as they would never have to pay anything back.
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    (Original post by xxchloexo)
    I agree but there needs to be the jobs for people to do. There are a small minority of benifit claimers that do not want to find a job, but alot of them do.
    Maybe cutting unemployment benefit spending and using the money to create jobs via tax cuts and investment or even somewhat bribing businesses to employ more people

    Or introducing a mini redundancy tax ?!
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    (Original post by xxchloexo)
    That sounds good, but it would again reward the people who don't want to get a job as they would never have to pay anything back.
    Or make the benefit decrease slowly the longer someone remains on it?
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    (Original post by a729)
    Or make the benefit decrease slowly the longer someone remains on it?
    Yeah, i also think that the majority of the benifit should be given as vouchers to spend on essentials such as food and clothing, this used to be the case years back and it stops people (the minority granted) spending all their benefits on alcohol etc and then going to food banks when they don't have the money to eat.
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    (Original post by xxchloexo)
    Yeah, i also think that the majority of the benifit should be given as vouchers to spend on essentials such as food and clothing, this used to be the case years back and it stops people (the minority granted) spending all their benefits on alcohol etc and then going to food banks when they don't have the money to eat.
    Especially for claimants with children - think of the Philpott story where the kids went hungry

    Foodstamps would make benefits even less attractive and would help reduce the welfare bill
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    (Original post by a729)
    Especially for claimants with children - think of the Philpott story where the kids went hungry

    Foodstamps would make benefits even less attractive and would help reduce the welfare bill
    Yeah i think so! Would encourage people to work if they didn't get money to spend on what they like!
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    (Original post by OU Student)
    How would contribution based benefits such as pensions be funded, then?
    I think he is a bit extreme!
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    (Original post by xxchloexo)
    Yeah i think so! Would encourage people to work if they didn't get money to spend on what they like!
    I don't know why it hasn't been implemented yet?!

    Plus maybe the government could even save money I e paying say £30 for £50 of vouchers which can be spent in all major supermarkets and any other willing participants like Lidl and Aldi which would be foolish not to accept them!
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    (Original post by Jeester)
    ??

    Why the expletives?
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    (Original post by xxchloexo)
    That sounds good, but it would again reward the people who don't want to get a job as they would never have to pay anything back.
    Thats a fair point. TBH, I would have no moral issue in allowing people to exist in destitution if they are work shy.

    So maybe some of sliding scale, designed to encourage people into work. Possibly linked in with spending in the right areas designed to generate private sector growth.
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    (Original post by a729)
    I don't know why it hasn't been implemented yet?!

    Plus maybe the government could even save money I e paying say £30 for £50 of vouchers which can be spent in all major supermarkets and any other willing participants like Lidl and Aldi which would be foolish not to accept them!

    I know right, would make so much more sense!

    I also think that the winter fuel allowance that elderly people get shouldn't be paid as cash directy to them i believe it would be better if the government just paid their winter bill as some people use far less than the money they recevie, i know my great nan (sort of) sits in the freezing cold and uses the money for other things? it would encourage people to actually use it for it's purpose.
 
 
 
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