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    (Original post by hskjlclcn)
    Thats hardly the case, someone had to get Nadal in the top 4 so that just happened to be Fed and Then 3rd vs 2nd seed in the semi seems to make sense no? It's just that Ferrer's ranking of 4 in a grass court tournament is completely unbalanced!

    That doesn't mean Djokovic will get to the final and to be honest I'm expecting a surprise finalist in that half!
    Like who- Ferrer, Berdych, Delpo, Haas? I just don't see any of these guys beating Nole in a BO5 set match, it's not happening. I bet after seeing his draw, Nole had that sick twisted smile of his on his face, which is gonna become a trend throughout the whole tournament.
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    Man, Murray's draw is just appalling. Lu is okay, I guess, there are worse R2 draws, but to then have Mahut (grass court specialist) followed by Youzhny (best on grass) followed by Tsonga (best on grass), then Nadal (obvious) is just really terrible luck. On the positive side, if he does make it to the final he will almost certainly be in amazing form and just slaughter Nole, but still.

    Federer has it even worse. Can't see him going further than the QF. Anyone reckon we might get a surprise finalist from the top half?
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    (Original post by Roger1)
    Like who- Ferrer, Berdych, Delpo, Haas? I just don't see any of these guys beating Nole in a BO5 set match, it's not happening. I bet after seeing his draw, Nole had that sick twisted smile of his on his face, which is gonna become a trend throughout the whole tournament.
    Delpo beat him at indian wells and olympics should give him a boost again Nole and also Berdych who beat him on grass in the past. There's a chance of a surprise finalist from Novaks half
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    (Original post by TopHat)
    Man, Murray's draw is just appalling. Lu is okay, I guess, there are worse R2 draws, but to then have Mahut (grass court specialist) followed by Youzhny (best on grass) followed by Tsonga (best on grass), then Nadal (obvious) is just really terrible luck. On the positive side, if he does make it to the final he will almost certainly be in amazing form and just slaughter Nole, but still.

    Federer has it even worse. Can't see him going further than the QF. Anyone reckon we might get a surprise finalist from the top half?
    If there is a surprise finalist it will be Delpo or Berdych.
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    I'm predicting a Murray-Djokovic Final. I can't wait for Wimbledon to start!

    Plus this is the first year I literally have the 2 weeks completely free to watch whatever match I want. :cool:
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    (Original post by Roger1)
    Like who- Ferrer, Berdych, Delpo, Haas? I just don't see any of these guys beating Nole in a BO5 set match, it's not happening. I bet after seeing his draw, Nole had that sick twisted smile of his on his face, which is gonna become a trend throughout the whole tournament.
    Obviously when you look at it Djokovic is favourite, but he is by no means comfortable on grass and I feel if a player such as Delpo, but mainly in my eyes Berdych (if he avoids round 1 exits) can take him out on a good day.
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    Obviously when you look at it Djokovic is favourite, but he is by no means comfortable on grass and I feel if a player such as Delpo, but mainly in my eyes Berdych (if he avoids round 1 exits) can take him out on a good day. Delpo beat him at indian wells and olympics should give him a boost again Nole and also Berdych who beat him on grass in the past. There's a chance of a surprise finalist from Novaks halfBO5 is a completely different ball game to BO3. Delpo don't have the stamina to really trouble Nole in a GS anymore, Tomas maybe but he is a big chocker.
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    Even as a Federer fan, I don't really care about the draw. We can argue and argue about the fairness of the seedings and the draw, but at the end of the day it's done. They're not going to change it now.
    All of the permutations about when the big 4 will play each other ignore the possibility of upsets. There are dangerous players and banana skins everywhere. Just look at Djokovic - first round against Mayer, twice a quarterfinalist here and bags of experience. In the right mood, he could be a handful.
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    Interesting draw...

    Djokovic - Haas and Berdych should provide entertainment but no real threat to Djokovic unless Del Potro can make it to the semi's (which is doubtful since Ferrer beat him here last year). In the event of that match up actually occuring i'd actually go for Del Potro given they've only met once on grass and that was a straight sets win for Del Potro. Odds on however for Djokovic to reach the final.

    Federer - Awful draw. Fedal quarter final i think may be winnable but it will be dragged out so long that Murray will walk over him.

    Nadal - Mixed draw. Federer is a threat if he gets off the mark quickly but there's a decent chance that Nadal will go through (one thing in Fed's favour is that the match if in the evening will be under the closed roof) however if Nadal get's through then he must fancy chances since Murray has never taken Nadal to a 5th or even beat him on grass. Nadal probably wins if he passes Murray but it would be close.

    Murray - Probably the most difficult early draw but should pass it, will have a tough semi against Nadal but probably enough to take a tired Federer. Probably wins if meets Djokovic in the final.
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    Imagine Fed was still in his peak and mid 20s and had this draw, it'll be a joy to watch. He'll crush Nole and Murray in straights after obliviously struggling against Nadal. But with this draw like this at 30+, it could get really ugly for Roger, unless if he turns on the GOD mode, which hasn't really happened at all this season, so Roger is in a spot of bother. Even if he somehow gets past Rafa, there is Andy and Novak to worry about, so it's safe to say that he will be #5 for the first time in 10 years in 2 weeks time.
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    (Original post by Roger1)
    Imagine Fed was still in his peak and mid 20s and had this draw, it'll be a joy to watch. He'll crush Nole and Murray in straights after obliviously struggling against Nadal. But with this draw like this at 30+, it could get really ugly for Roger, unless if he turns on the GOD mode, which hasn't really happened at all this season, so Roger is in a spot of bother. Even if he somehow gets past Rafa, there is Andy and Novak to worry about, so it's safe to say that he will be #5 for the first time in 10 years in 2 weeks time.
    Fed's main problem is not that he couldn't take Murray or Djokovic but that Nadal will play it out so long the he won't have the energy if he does get to Murray. He pretty much has to take Nadal in straight sets and for that we need to pray for rain.
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    No one talking about the women. Watching Eastbourne though, it's not hard to see why :yawn:
    Serena is going to annihilate everyone for the foreseeable future.
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    (Original post by Student2806)
    No one talking about the women. Watching Eastbourne though, it's not hard to see why :yawn:
    Serena is going to annihilate everyone for the foreseeable future.
    There is nothing to talk about. Maybe who will lose in the final to Serena is debatable.
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    (Original post by Student2806)
    No one talking about the women. Watching Eastbourne though, it's not hard to see why :yawn:
    Serena is going to annihilate everyone for the foreseeable future.
    Is Caro ever gonna leave her father? He has taken her as far as he possibly could, now she needs a new coach who can do something with her loopy forehand and serve. Her backhand is already rock solid, but she needs to improve on those areas, if she is to be a GS champion. She is only still relatively young, so has got time to implement changes into her game, but she needs to act fast.

    And I just hope that Serena doesn't win- nothing against her, I just want someone else to win, preferably Maria Sharapova or Li Na or Caroline Woniacki.
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    (Original post by Prendah)
    There is nothing to talk about. Maybe who will lose in the final to Serena is debatable.
    The women's 1st round is pretty exciting and there could be upsets.


    Lisicki v Schiavone
    Kirilenko v Robson
    Mattek-Sands v Kerber
    Keys v Watson
    Hampton v Stephens
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    (Original post by TopHat)
    Man, Murray's draw is just appalling. Lu is okay, I guess, there are worse R2 draws, but to then have Mahut (grass court specialist) followed by Youzhny (best on grass) followed by Tsonga (best on grass), then Nadal (obvious) is just really terrible luck. On the positive side, if he does make it to the final he will almost certainly be in amazing form and just slaughter Nole, but still.

    Federer has it even worse. Can't see him going further than the QF. Anyone reckon we might get a surprise finalist from the top half?
    You're getting VONC'd in the Labour party, by the way.
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    (Original post by Roger1)
    And I just hope that Serena doesn't win- nothing against her, I just want someone else to win, preferably Maria Sharapova or Li Na or Caroline Woniacki.
    Sharapova just needs to sort out her first serve. In rallies she can just about match Serena, but she's often let down by erratic serving.
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    (Original post by Student2806)
    Sharapova just needs to sort out her first serve. In rallies she can just about match Serena, but she's often let down by erratic serving.
    She needs more than just the first serve. She needs variety in her game to trouble Serena. How about throw in a slice to disrupt her rhythm? Her ball bashing game is effective against anyone, but Serena as Williams got more power, so can out power her. She needs to work on her slices if she's to ever beat Serena again.
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    Because I can't be bothered to open up the draw again today, which quarter is Cilic in?
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    (Original post by hskjlclcn)
    Because I can't be bothered to open up the draw again today, which quarter is Cilic in?
    Cilic is in Murray's quarter. Full draw can be found here:

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/tennis...s-draw/p1.html
 
 
 
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