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    Great day of tennis.

    I highly doubt physical condition will be an issue here. Lest we forget that Djokovic played a gruelling 5 hour SF against Murray in the AO and came back after two days to beat Nadal in an even more gruelling 6 hour match. By the 5th set, Djokovic seemed like he needed the ambulance... but he always finds a way.

    The problem Murray has is that he hasn't really faced anyone in Djokovic's league yet. No one that can really slug it out from the baseline toe to toe, like Del Potro did to Djokovic. If Murray doesn't serve well, it'll be over pretty quickly.

    But Murray has beaten Djokovic in the US Open and in the Olympics, so that's a good sign. But I just don't see it - Djokovic is just playing too good now and Murray hasn't reached that level in any of his games. Maybe he will in the finals, but I still got Djokovic in 4 or 5.
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    Dammit Djokovic please save tennis on Sunday.

    Yeah Djokovic isn't a great player on grass imo (real grass, not this pathetic excuse of grass in the second week of Wimbledon aka green clay) but him winning wimbledon over Murray is better for tennis.

    Also props to Del Potro, what heart, he still has a few slams in him, but he has amazing heart and fight. Can definitely see him being a big force at the USO this yeqr like 4 years ago.
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    Great day of tennis today! So excited for the women and mens finals this weekend! :cool:
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    (Original post by Ultimate1)
    Dammit Djokovic please save tennis on Sunday.

    Yeah Djokovic isn't a great player on grass imo (real grass, not this pathetic excuse of grass in the second week of Wimbledon aka green clay) but him winning wimbledon over Murray is better for tennis.

    Also props to Del Potro, what heart, he still has a few slams in him, but he has amazing heart and fight. Can definitely see him being a big force at the USO this yeqr like 4 years ago.
    Why is it better for tennis?
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    (Original post by Prendah)
    Why is it better for tennis?
    Murray is bad for tennis. Always pushing and throwing tantrums on court.

    Tebbis will be put on life support if Mugray wins.

    He's so lucky that there was a hurricane during USO final and semi finals such a fluke will never happen again.
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    (Original post by Ultimate1)
    Murray is bad for tennis. Always pushing and throwing tantrums on court.

    Tebbis will be put on life support if Mugray wins.

    He's so lucky that there was a hurricane during USO final and semi finals such a fluke will never happen again.
    The pole was the one throwing the tantrums today. Whining constantly for almost an hour about the crowd or roof throughout the third set, and swinging his racket around like a 5 year old when Murray broke him twice in that set. He got booed for it.

    Unless you are referring to murrays arguments against the roof being closed but those were reasonable I thought. Perhaps he should have ignored it, but closing the roof was silly at that point, and he wanted to register his concerns. (I think he was right to do so, especially after how much Jano was spouting off earlier.) Jano was just unhappy he was losing when he started whining.
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    (Original post by Ultimate1)
    Murray is bad for tennis. Always pushing and throwing tantrums on court.

    Tebbis will be put on life support if Mugray wins.

    He's so lucky that there was a hurricane during USO final and semi finals such a fluke will never happen again.
    Murray dealt with the windy conditions better in the US Open final. Get over it.

    Missing shots and losing points is frustrating for anyone, and even more frustrating in a Grand slam. All players get frustrated at silly mistakes, including Djokovic.

    It will be good for Tennis if either Murray or Djokovic wins.
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    (Original post by Squidgyness)

    Unless you are referring to murrays arguments against the roof being closed but those were reasonable I thought. Perhaps he should have ignored it, but closing the roof was silly at that point, and he wanted to register his concerns. Jano was just unhappy he was losing when he started whining.
    If I remember correctly (perhaps I don't though...), they do tend to close the roof at the end of a set.

    Eg, Nadal vs Rosol 2012, I think they closed the roof at the end of a set, prompting the same argument. So I think Murray claiming that Janowicz's complaining led to the decision wasn't accurate.

    I don't really care about Murray complaining, tennis players do that quite a lot. It was more all the commentators moaning as well. Tim Henman was sensible as usual though.
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    (Original post by Ultimate1)
    Dammit Djokovic please save tennis on Sunday.

    Yeah Djokovic isn't a great player on grass imo (real grass, not this pathetic excuse of grass in the second week of Wimbledon aka green clay) but him winning wimbledon over Murray is better for tennis.

    Also props to Del Potro, what heart, he still has a few slams in him, but he has amazing heart and fight. Can definitely see him being a big force at the USO this yeqr like 4 years ago.
    Comments like this :rolleyes: who are you to say what's better for tennis? Tool.
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    Why does everyone hate Andrew Castle?
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    (Original post by manchesterunited15)
    Why does everyone hate Andrew Castle?
    He's just a bit chauvinistic, smarmy, generally talks out of his arse and behaves like a know-it-all yet doesn't really know much.

    i.e. Look at his career highlight.

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    (Original post by Mastermind2)
    Predictions for today?
    I reckon Djokovic in 5 sets, and Murray in 4 sets
    Looks like I got both of my predictions correct
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    (Original post by Mastermind2)
    Looks like I got both of my predictions correct
    Your predictions on the final please?
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    Lol Youtube has taken down Nole vs Rafa French open 13, there isn't a single Nole Vs Rafa 13 match on Youtube.
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    Just got in from work. Great stuff from Murray.
    On the argument about the roof, why don't they have floodlights that can be used with the roof open? Having to wait 20+ minutes for the roof to close, just so they switch the lights on, seems a rather large design flaw.
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    (Original post by manchesterunited15)
    Why does everyone hate Andrew Castle?
    Because he talks like he won everything and knows everything, when in reality he never went past the 2nd round at Wimbledon and never got past the third round of any grand slam.
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    (Original post by Squidgyness;4d433767)
    The pole was the one throwing the tantrums today. Whining constantly for almost an hour about the crowd or roof throughout the third set, and swinging his racket around like a 5 year old when Murray broke him twice in that set. He got booed for it.
    It's the irony of the mug wimbledon crowd booing JJ swinging his raquet at the net. Murray throws far more tantrums and is more disgraceful in his behaviour such as come oning opponent's Unforced errors.

    Too good this Wimbledon crowd they've shown their true colours. So much for the "most knowledgable crowd" mantra thrown around by the British media.

    Unless you are referring to murrays arguments against the roof being closed but those were reasonable I thought. Perhaps he should have ignored it, but closing the roof was silly at that point, and he wanted to register his concerns. (I think he was right to do so, especially after how much Jano was spouting off earlier.) Jano was just unhappy he was losing when he started whining.
    Lol seems like you only started watching tennis today.

    (Original post by ThatPerson)
    Murray dealt with the windy conditions better in the US Open final. Get over it.

    Missing shots and losing points is frustrating for anyone, and even more frustrating in a Grand slam. All players get frustrated at silly mistakes, including Djokovic.

    It will be good for Tennis if either Murray or Djokovic wins.
    Lol Windray got extremely lucky Berdych chocked in the wind and we saw the damage that Djokovic would have done to Andy if the wind died down in the final.

    Anyway tennis will ultimately lose. Haven't you seen how boring Djokovic/Murray matches are? They're snore fests and push fests. Extremely boring matches with both players style canceling each other out. Might be the first wimbledon final I miss since I started watching tennis. Switched off the AO final after 10 mins because the push fest was too much to take in, same with AO 11. Watched USO 12 because I wanted to see murray get destroyed after fluking it to the final but alas that didn't occur. The only decent match betweeb them was Rome '11 actually that one is a classic but apart from virtually all their matches follow the same pattern and are extremely boring.

    (Original post by kbountra)
    Comments like this :rolleyes: who are you to say what's better for tennis? Tool.
    Because having a pushing mug win winbledon is great for tennis :rolleyes:.

    Murray has just pushed and grinded his opponents that is never good for the game.
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    Preview of the men's final:

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    So... If they only close the roof at the end of a set and not in the middle, why was Jano whining about when it was going to close several times? Surely he'd just have been told at the end of the set and that would be that.

    I don't watch too much tennis, but I catch Wimbledon each year and highlights of a few other matches throughout the year and Murray seems to be a bit more calm in recent years to me. I remember a few years back he was quite bad at letting things get to him but in that last set he seemed levelheaded despite the roof thing.
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    (Original post by Squidgyness)
    So... If they only close the roof at the end of a set and not in the middle, why was Jano whining about when it was going to close? Surely he'd just have been told at te end of te set and that would be that.

    He got told an hour or so I believe.
    I'm not sure why he was whining.

    I think there's probably no "strict rule" over when they close the roof, but the end of a set is viewed as a reasonably "fair moment". So they didn't think they'd get another full set played, so closed the roof.
 
 
 
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