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    (Original post by chefdave)
    So presumably if Africa was lightyears ahead of Europe in terms of technology, culture, human rights, average life expectency and literacy rates etc you wouldn't be able to conclude that Africans are more intelligent than Europeans because in 500-1000 years from now Europe may catch up! It's a novel argument I suppose, but not one I'd agree with.
    You're not very bright are you? You actually believe that every country and society on the African continent is 500-1000 years behind even the most advanced of countries. If that were the case, because in the modern day African countries are not as advanced as the most advanced country even with all of the resources and technology at hand, the African wouldn't even be Homo Sapiens Sapiens, he would be an entirely different species of man, a less advanced one and ergo, he would have been extinct much like the Cro-Magnon man, Homo Neanderthalensis, Homo Erectus etc.

    Clearly that's not the case. The only human species to exist now is Homo Sapiens Sapiens of which every human alive today is a part of. And such a species of man has existed for hundreds of thousands of years.

    I suppose it will take North Korea 500-1000 years to catch up.

    Please - you clearly aren't well-versed in history. History shows how societies advance and also fall and rise again etc etc. So, we're clearly talking decades here. One only need to look at China in 1900, a nation in decline and heavily controlled by foreign nations, and China now.
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    What on earth are you on about?
    The notion of the 'White man's burden' is pure bat****. It was the result of Romantic Imperial nationalism which justified N.European (and USA in the Spanish-American war of 1890) actions in Asia, Africa and S.America during the 19th century. The European stock was not destined to 'lead people of color' and through out most of Human history since the Neolithic Europeans (or the west for that matter) was not the main source of civilization.
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    Can I just outline something as well...When people say black people, it's not just Africa It's the flipping Caribbean as well. Africa has many affluent places and is where most of the things you use i.e.- oil, cocoa and sugar come from. Stop dissing Africa, it's a beautiful place with many kind-hearted people. There are loads of rich countries like South-Africa, Nigeria and Egypt, there is just a lot of corruptness in Africa where money is not handled by the right people, the governments can be very stingy... again, may be out of context but it had to be said. FFS Threads like these make me mad...
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    (Original post by HumanSupremacist)
    You're not very bright are you? You actually believe that every country and society on the African continent is 500-1000 years behind even the most advanced of countries. If that were the case, the African wouldn't even be Homo Sapiens Sapiens, he would be an entirely different species of man, a less advanced one and ergo, he would have been extinct much like the Cro-Magnon man, Homo Neanderthalensis, Homo Erectus etc.

    Clearly that's not the case. The only human species to exist now is Homo Sapiens Sapiens of which every human alive today is a part of.

    I suppose it will take North Korea 500-1000 years to catch up.

    Please - you clearly aren't well-versed in history. History shows how societies advance and also fall and rise again etc etc. So, we're clearly talking decades here. One only need to look at China in 1900, a nation in decline and heavily controlled by foreign nations, and China now.
    Just to clarify, people 1000 years ago were still Homo Sapiens Sapiens...
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    I think that anyone can do anything that other people can do, if they have the right training and tools. If black people were the "rich race", I'm sure that they would be more intelligent (or at least seeen as more intelligent). Intelligence is often defined by those who have more power.

    Even if one race is smarter than the other, does it matter? Wouldn't the other race be better at something else that would benefit them more?
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    (Original post by Lyrical Prodigy)
    Can I just outline something as well...When people say black people, it's not just Africa It's the flipping Caribbean as well. Africa has many affluent places and is where most of the things you use i.e.- oil, cocoa and sugar come from. Stop dissing Africa, it's a beautiful place with many kind-hearted people. There are loads of rich countries like South-Africa, Nigeria and Egypt, there is just a lot of corruptness in Africa where money is not handled by the right people, the governments can be very stingy... again, may be out of context but it had to be said. FFS Threads like these make me mad...
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    Just to clarify, people 1000 years ago were still Homo Sapiens Sapiens...
    Er...I'm fully aware of that. Our race is over a couple of hundred thousand years old, with anatomically modern humans being over a hundred thousand years old. I'm fully aware of that. Such a time scale actually make some questions why on Earth it's taken us so long as Humans to get to this point - you'd think we would have been well advanced thousands of years ago.... Blood religions and their dark ages...
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    (Original post by HumanSupremacist)
    You're not very bright are you? You actually believe that every country and society on the African continent is 500-1000 years behind even the most advanced of countries. If that were the case, the African wouldn't even be Homo Sapiens Sapiens, he would be an entirely different species of man, a less advanced one and ergo, he would have been extinct much like the Cro-Magnon man, Homo Neanderthalensis, Homo Erectus etc.

    Clearly that's not the case. The only human species to exist now is Homo Sapiens Sapiens of which every human alive today is a part of.

    I suppose it will take North Korea 500-1000 years to catch up.

    Please - you clearly aren't well-versed in history. History shows how societies advance and also fall and rise again etc etc. So, we're clearly talking decades here. One only need to look at China in 1900, a nation in decline and heavily controlled by foreign nations, and China now.
    I'm sorry, you're saying that people in King Henry VIII's time (b. 1491, d.1547) weren't yet fully fledged human beings and were still in the process of evolving from monkeys to homo sapiens?

    I've read some ignorant drivel in my time, but that really takes the biscuit! Congratulations - you've won my idiot award of the day.
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    Whilst it would be much better if this whole thing was resolved quickly with a conclusion of no differences, nobody seems to ask how people would react if the opposite were to be discovered. What do people think the reaction would be?
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    I'm sorry, you're saying that people in King Henry VIII's time (b. 1491, d.1547) weren't yet fully fledged human beings and were still in the process of evolving from monkeys to homo sapiens?

    I've read some ignorant drivel in my time, but that really takes the biscuit! Congratulations - you've won my idiot award of the day.
    What? No, I'm not! How on Earth did you get that from my post??

    I'm fully aware that Homo Sapiens Sapiens are hundreds of thousands of years old - you must have misread my post!
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    (Original post by Lyrical Prodigy)
    Can I just outline something as well...When people say black people, it's not just Africa It's the flipping Caribbean as well. Africa has many affluent places and is where most of the things you use i.e.- oil, cocoa and sugar come from. Stop dissing Africa, it's a beautiful place with many kind-hearted people. There are loads of rich countries like South-Africa, Nigeria and Egypt, there is just a lot of corruptness in Africa where money is not handled by the right people, the governments can be very stingy... again, may be out of context but it had to be said. FFS Threads like these make me mad...
    Africa could have been such a great place if it wasn't for capitalism and democracy, when the westerns gave African nations Independence they left us with a system that they thought was superior to all others but thanks to Capitalism Africa is the charity case of the world. After the 1960's a conservative socialist government should have been put in place so we could better manage the natural resources given to us
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    (Original post by HumanSupremacist)
    What? No, I'm not! How on Earth did you get that from my post??

    I'm fully aware that Homo Sapiens Sapiens are hundreds of thousands of years old - you must have misread my post!
    No I didn't misread your post. You said that 500 years ago homo sapiens (sapiens?) didn't exist. There's no wriggle room in this interpretation either, it's all there in black and white so to speak.
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    I'm sorry, you're saying that people in King Henry VIII's time (b. 1491, d.1547) weren't yet fully fledged human beings and were still in the process of evolving from monkeys to homo sapiens?

    I've read some ignorant drivel in my time, but that really takes the biscuit! Congratulations - you've won my idiot award of the day.
    And you won my idiot award for believing that early Humans evolved directly from 'monkeys', when in fact monkeys and Hominids (and Great apes) had an common ansestor 30-8 million years ago. Yes, Human Supremacist made an chronological mistake in the evolution of humans but you should not derail this thread by posting stupid responses.
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    No I didn't misread your post. You said that 500 years ago homo sapiens (sapiens?) didn't exist. There's no wriggle room in this interpretation either, it's all there in black and white so to speak.
    Clearly I didn't. I did not say those exact words.

    In reply to your post about the time scale it would take Africa to "catch up" (500-1000years), I cited the example of China and then I ridiculed your timescale and joked that it must then follow that Africans were a different species of man, because in the modern day, no society would take several centuries to "catch up".
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    (Original post by Type 052D)
    And you won my idiot award for believing that early Humans evolved directly from 'monkeys', when in fact monkeys and Hominids (and Great apes) had an common ansestor 30-8 million years ago. Yes, Human Supremacist made an chronological mistake in the evolution of humans but you should not derail this thread by posting stupid responses.
    I didn't make any mistake - I was making a point in a sarcastic manner. I'll have to edit my post to make it clear.
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    (Original post by HumanSupremacist)
    Clearly I didn't. I did not say those exact words.

    In reply to your post about the time scale it would take Africa to "catch up" (500-1000years), I cited the example of China and then I ridiculed your timescale and joked that it must then follow that Africans were a different species of man, because in the modern day, no society would take several centuries to "catch up".
    Even your chum Type 052D admitted that you made a chronological error, just be a man and fess up to it so we can move on. Your attempts to backtrack and laugh this ridiculous error off are fooling nobody.
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    (Original post by HumanSupremacist)
    I didn't make any mistake - I was making a point in a sarcastic manner. I'll have to edit my post to make it clear.
    I know you did not make an mistake, but I'm trying to gas up chefdave and get him to stay on topic
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    (Original post by Type 052D)
    I know you did not make an mistake, but I'm trying to gas up chefdave and get him to stay on topic
    I love it when people mention my username.
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    (Original post by sugar-n-spice)
    Whilst it would be much better if this whole thing was resolved quickly with a conclusion of no differences, nobody seems to ask how people would react if the opposite were to be discovered. What do people think the reaction would be?
    Precisely. And it doesn't help that the "scientists" conducting these "researches" are actually "white" themselves. I highly doubt that if they found some sort of allele(s) that correlated with "intelligence" and was particularly predominant in Sub-Saharan Africans, that they would readily sound that out.
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    Even your chum Type 052D admitted that you made a chronological error, just be a man and fess up to it so we can move on. Your attempts to backtrack and laugh this ridiculous error off are fooling nobody.
    I didn't make a chronological error. I'm much more versed in the history of mankind and species of man than you are. I was always aware that modern mankind is hundreds of thousands of years ago - maybe you should read my replies carefully to see the point I was trying to prove.

    In short, your timescale was outrageously laughable. 500-1000years is hilarious unless an entire race of people is adamant that they shall not advance and progress for all eternity. :lol:

    There's nothing to confess to because you inferred something completely different from my post - you concluded something that I did not categorically state.
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    (Original post by sevchenko)
    Africa could have been such a great place if it wasn't for capitalism and democracy, when the westerns gave African nations Independence they left us with a system that they thought was superior to all others but thanks to Capitalism Africa is the charity case of the world. After the 1960's a conservative socialist government should have been put in place so we could better manage the natural resources given to us
    Not much more I can say. That's exactly it... I don't understand why people can't cut Africa some slack. It's them "Sponsor a child for £2 a month" adverts that make Africa seem like some place of hell.
 
 
 
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