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    (Original post by NDGAARONDI)
    Most clubs have had some external funding in their history. Usually it's the demographic of the wealth that people only acknowledge. In the past we had fans of the club pouring their own personal wealth into their clubs and people will usually only cite Jack Walker for Blackburn because it is the Premier League era. Plenty of examples existed way before him.

    It will be interesting to see with Monaco because they kicked up a fuss that the French authorities have taken away their tax free status. There are plenty of ways, on a national level, that clubs can gain advantages over clubs abroad.
    It's almost as if we repeat ourselves every two weeks as another person does this slate chelsea day
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    (Original post by jam277)
    Did you read what we said? As I didn't say we were doing anything different(bar trying to win ligue 1 in your first season back there) all we said is that £52 for hulk is a joke I know you know and sev knows
    And all he did was mention that it's ironic you guys criticise other teams for overspending on players. Which it is. Just like it was when people criticised PSG on here as well.

    You all use the same MO, flex your financial bicep during negotiations be it in terms of bid and/or wages to get players. How can you argue against this?

    And NDGAARONDI's post backs this point and wasn't supporting your criticism of PSG overspending on Hulk.
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    And all he did was mention that it's ironic you guys criticise other teams for overspending on players. Which it is. Just like it was when people criticised PSG on here as well.

    You all use the same MO, flex your financial bicep during negotiations be it in terms of bid and/or wages to get players. How can you argue against this?

    And NDGAARONDI's post backs this point and wasn't supporting your criticism of PSG overspending on Hulk.
    When did I say we didn't do this? Find the quote where I said we're not like PSG I said that PSG had a good history seeing as they're 40 years old. All I said on the Hulk transfer was that Hulk based on his form, not playing in a big 5 league and being **** for the past season does not warrant a £12million profit ffs
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    (Original post by jam277)
    When did I say we didn't do this? Find the quote where I said we're not like PSG I said that PSG had a good history seeing as they're 40 years old. All I said on the Hulk transfer was that Hulk based on his form, not playing in a big 5 league and being **** for the past season does not warrant a £12million profit ffs
    Stop taking things so personal. I haven't mentioned you once. I made a generic statement.

    >>>>people criticised PSG
    >>>>people

    Everyone knows that they overpaid for him. Just like Chelsea have for many players in their recent history. That's the crux of the point. So it's nothing short of hypocrisy to criticise them especially when you guys have defended the practices of your club. It's the MO of clubs who want to parachute themselves to the apex.
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    (Original post by 419)
    And all he did was mention that it's ironic you guys criticise other teams for overspending on players. Which it is. Just like it was when people criticised PSG on here as well.

    You all use the same MO, flex your financial bicep during negotiations be it in terms of bid and/or wages to get players. How can you argue against this?

    And NDGAARONDI's post backs this point and wasn't supporting your criticism of PSG overspending on Hulk.
    As I said to Sevchenko, just because our club is guilty of splashing the cash, does that mean we, as fans, agree with it? No. Does that mean we can't comment on other club's similar practises? No. We're stuck with it. Unless of course, we're supposed to just start supporting a different team?

    We were discussing how Hulk isn't worth anywhere near that sum of money, although according to the "Football Police" we apparently can't do that, so I guess we'd better not mention Carroll ever again either, seeing as he was overpriced too... Sev then decided to use this opportunity to criticise us so I pointed out the differences between our situation and Monaco's, whilst stressing I wasn't defending our spending (something I haven't really seen anyone do in ages tbf despite your implication we're all at it) although he didn't seem to understand that either. NDGAARONDI's post, whilst a good point, doesn't really reflect what we were discussing.

    (Original post by jam277)
    It's almost as if we repeat ourselves every two weeks as another person does this slate chelsea day
    This forum has far too many bitter posters who seemingly lurk on rival team's threads just waiting for an opportunity to criticise. It's boring and pathetic. The last couple of pages have been a good example of this.
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    Essien must be happy to be back

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    (Original post by Nickini)
    Wouldn't mind this either, although not for the €40m fee RM apparently want.

    Talking of Real, their new away kit looks...familiar...


    Wait what we signed Benzema...a world class striker!...oh wait...

    Oh Real.

    (Original post by KingMessi)
    Indeed. I really don't have much interest in the transfer window, mostly for this reason. I occasionally check to see what transfers are official, but that's it. Most of the knowledge of rumours I have comes from the threads on here. I hope Romeu makes it, though. He'd be an ideal replacement for Mikel.

    Imagine us with the 2003 Ronaldo da Lima. :sogood:



    Quite a few good goals were scored by him as well. I remember a lovely header against Blackburn from fifteen or sixteen yards. Oh well. We have better players now and he was rather disagreeable in his last year here.
    Yes, quite rightly. He would indeed, so much more composed on the ball and has some exquisite passing. I remember his 90th minute winner against Stoke City. He was and he said he wanted to leave and he had two transfer windows to leave and an offer from Santos, to which he said no because they couldn't afford his wages, then why say you want to go to Brazil? Ah well. What's done is done, can't linger in the past. That Ronaldo would have been smashing it in left right and centre :coma:

    (Original post by jam277)
    It's almost as if we repeat ourselves every two weeks as another person does this slate chelsea day
    Story of our lives.

    Would not mind Higuain, he'd score a fair few goals and don't we need to replace our long lost Argentine's in Crespo and Di Santo?
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    (Original post by iRush)
    Wait what we signed Benzema...a world class striker!...oh wait...

    Oh Real.



    Yes, quite rightly. He would indeed, so much more composed on the ball and has some exquisite passing. I remember his 90th minute winner against Stoke City. He was and he said he wanted to leave and he had two transfer windows to leave and an offer from Santos, to which he said no because they couldn't afford his wages, then why say you want to go to Brazil? Ah well. What's done is done, can't linger in the past. That Ronaldo would have been smashing it in left right and centre :coma:



    Story of our lives.

    Would not mind Higuain, he'd score a fair few goals and don't we need to replace our long lost Argentine's in Crespo and Di Santo?
    If we're replacing Argentinians can we have Messi please? :teehee:

    And yes, I think Chelsea fans were right to take umbrage at Malouda's attitude. He's lost two years of football because of his avarice.
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    Lukaku needs to be given a chance this season, think he will do the business !
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    (Original post by 419)
    Stop taking things so personal. I haven't mentioned you once. I made a generic statement.

    >>>>people criticised PSG
    >>>>people

    Everyone knows that they overpaid for him. Just like Chelsea have for many players in their recent history. That's the crux of the point. So it's nothing short of hypocrisy to criticise them especially when you guys have defended the practices of your club. It's the MO of clubs who want to parachute themselves to the apex.
    It's not hypocritical when many Chelsea fans criticise their own clubs spending as well. When Torres was bought for £50m (and Scheva for £30m) there was a lot of criticism from Chelsea fans towards the board.
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    (Original post by KingMessi)
    If we're replacing Argentinians can we have Messi please? :teehee:

    And yes, I think Chelsea fans were right to take umbrage at Malouda's attitude. He's lost two years of football because of his avarice.
    Hahaha, why not! Come on Roman you can do it. Wished we got Aguero though, one player I was really hoping to come to Chelsea at the time. He did and then he blames the club for stopping him? Really Malouda really? Ah well.
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    Essien must be happy to be back

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    Lol. Essien Part 2.
    Part 1 was after the CL final.
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    Been linked with Gustavo.
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    (Original post by The Assassin)
    Been linked with Gustavo.
    We're being linked with every Centre Forward and Defensive Midfielder under the sun really.
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    (Original post by 419)
    And all he did was mention that it's ironic you guys criticise other teams for overspending on players. Which it is. Just like it was when people criticised PSG on here as well.

    You all use the same MO, flex your financial bicep during negotiations be it in terms of bid and/or wages to get players. How can you argue against this?

    And NDGAARONDI's post backs this point and wasn't supporting your criticism of PSG overspending on Hulk.
    I guess if fans quoted players' transfer prices in conjunction with how much there is worthy in the 'kitty' in addition to running costs, The Swiss Ramble is a good site for this stuff, then compare that to value on the pitch then deeming players' success or failure may be more worthwhile. For example, FSG/Liverpool's £35m expenditure on Andy Carroll could be argued as worse than our £50m on Torres. Aside from the usual inflation, forwards have been overpriced for donkey years. I remember people laughed at Juventus for spending £32.6m for Buffon purely because he's a goalkeeper.

    Purely looking at nominal values, especially much older transactions, can give a distorted picture. I think Arsene Wenger ages ago quoted Nottingham Forest on being a good example of not having to spend a lot of money to win stuff but they bought Trevor Francis who actually cost over a £1m, which was a lot of money back then. Not sure if this was funded without needing some external funding either. Wouldn't surprise me if not. My only issue really is how selective the criticism is I guess.
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    (Original post by NDGAARONDI)
    I guess if fans quoted players' transfer prices in conjunction with how much there is worthy in the 'kitty' in addition to running costs, The Swiss Ramble is a good site for this stuff, then compare that to value on the pitch then deeming players' success or failure may be more worthwhile. For example, FSG/Liverpool's £35m expenditure on Andy Carroll could be argued as worse than our £50m on Torres. Aside from the usual inflation, forwards have been overpriced for donkey years. I remember people laughed at Juventus for spending £32.6m for Buffon purely because he's a goalkeeper.

    Purely looking at nominal values, especially much older transactions, can give a distorted picture. I think Arsene Wenger ages ago quoted Nottingham Forest on being a good example of not having to spend a lot of money to win stuff but they bought Trevor Francis who actually cost over a £1m, which was a lot of money back then. Not sure if this was funded without needing some external funding either. Wouldn't surprise me if not. My only issue really is how selective the criticism is I guess.
    No argument here on the crux your point. Just pointing out that it isn't really that outlandish for someone to say that chelsea fan criticising Monaco spending is ironic. I'm highly addicted to swiss ramble.

    And you're right, people are very selective with their criticism. Extremely selective.
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    (Original post by iRush)
    Hahaha, why not! Come on Roman you can do it. Wished we got Aguero though, one player I was really hoping to come to Chelsea at the time. He did and then he blames the club for stopping him? Really Malouda really? Ah well.
    If only. :moon:

    Me too - and for so long we seemed favourites to get him. However, that may just have been tenuous speculation - I don't recall any formal bids.

    Exactly. No, good riddance, I think. He didn't deteriorate quite so much that no club would have wanted to take him, meaning that his staying with us was essentially avarice.
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    (Original post by KingMessi)
    If only. :moon:

    Me too - and for so long we seemed favourites to get him. However, that may just have been tenuous speculation - I don't recall any formal bids.

    Exactly. No, good riddance, I think. He didn't deteriorate quite so much that no club would have wanted to take him, meaning that his staying with us was essentially avarice.
    We did, he even came out and said he liked Chelsea etc etc. I liked him so much my friends started calling me Kun! I have a custom Nike bag that a friend gifted me with the name stitched on lol.

    OH WELL.

    I just want the season to start already and see our team play. I'm most looking forward too KdB, Lukaku and MvG.
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    (Original post by jam277)
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    Hey bruv. Been a while since we last talked. I was too busy trolling TSR that I didn't bother to make any posts on Chelsea.

    After watching Luiz during the Confederations Cup, I believe his best position would be CB. Provided that Jose gets him to stop his brainfarts. But I am not opposed to Jose trying him as a DM.

    Assuming you don't sign any more central midfielders, who would you prefer as the double pivot assuming you stick with 4-2-3-1?

    And what is the minimum you expect from Mourinho next season? Knowing Mourinho for who he is, I expect a title challenge and a challenge for another trophy.

    P.S. I hope Romeu proves himself during his loan to Spain.
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    (Original post by Cable)
    Hey bruv. Been a while since we last talked. I was too busy trolling TSR that I didn't bother to make any posts on Chelsea.

    After watching Luiz during the Confederations Cup, I believe his best position would be CB. Provided that Jose gets him to stop his brainfarts. But I am not opposed to Jose trying him as a DM.

    Assuming you don't sign any more central midfielders, who would you prefer as the double pivot assuming you stick with 4-2-3-1?

    And what is the minimum you expect from Mourinho next season? Knowing Mourinho for who he is, I expect a title challenge and a challenge for another trophy.

    P.S. I hope Romeu proves himself during his loan to Spain.
    Yeah Luiz seems to be great at CB but only when he's riled up for a game where you see beasty performances like in the final. I think he'll be a versatile player for us though. With the double pivot if luiz and terry are the preferred partnership(Cahill rotating in and out with the two) then I think that van ginkel and essien would be the best partnership (with the two you have a lot of energy, strength, pace and defensive capabilities and what I hear is that van ginkel is a natural successor to lampard). But I'd think that the partnership would be lampard and essien with a lot of rotation. I get the feeling that Mourinho wants a big squad so he rotates it when he sees fit so he goes for all the trophies. I expect a trophy and a title challenge 80-90 points nearer to 90. I think Romeu will prove himself and hopefully we swap him for mikel
 
 
 
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