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    (Original post by Nickini)
    We'll be trailing 1-0, only for Lukaku to score from a corner in the 88th minute, go on to win on penalties :moon:

    Not expecting us to win tbh, although as long as we hold our own I'm not too bothered. 2-1 or 3-1 Bayern.
    Yeah as long as we don't lose embarrassingly like we did to Athletico last year then I'm good.


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    Is the line up out yet?
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    BREAKING TEAM NEWS

    Juan Mata is left out of the Chelsea starting line-up for the second time in a week after also being overlooked for the trip to Manchester United on Monday. Fernando Torres starts up front for the
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    Wasting Lukaku's talent. 0 starts. Juan Mata surely cannot be injured this badly that he's not even in the squad. What the hell is Mourinho thinking. Give Lukaku a chance to start for atleast one game.
    Won't be surprised if Lukaku hands in a transfer request next season if this is how it continues, didn't even get a start against Aston Villa/Hull.
    We've seen how much Torres and Demba Ba can do so I don't understand why he isn't trying something new.
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    This is a shame...

    Are Ramires and Lampard starting together? If so I really would be surprised. It'd be pretty silly.
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    (Original post by cleveradam)
    Wasting Lukaku's talent. 0 starts. Juan Mata surely cannot be injured this badly that he's not even in the squad. What the hell is Mourinho thinking. Give Lukaku a chance to start for atleast one game.
    It's our fourth game of the season, and is Bayern really a game for Lukaku to start? Mata is on the bench btw.

    Cech; Ivanovic, Cahill, David Luiz, Cole; Ramires, Lampard; Schurrle, Oscar, Hazard; Torres.
    Subs: Schwarzer, Azpilicueta, JT, Essien, Mikel, Mata, Lukaku
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    looking forward to ramires looking as out of place as a fish in a desert, awful player.
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    Wow, people ****ging off Lampard already?
    Time to log off. :facepalm2:
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    (Original post by Nickini)
    It's our fourth game of the season, and is Bayern really a game for Lukaku to start? Mata is on the bench btw.

    Cech; Ivanovic, Cahill, David Luiz, Cole; Ramires, Lampard; Schurrle, Oscar, Hazard; Torres.
    Subs: Schwarzer, Azpilicueta, JT, Essien, Mikel, Mata, Lukaku
    I agree with Adam actually. This is not helping Lukaku's confidence and if Bayern is not the team and neither was Hull or Villa then who exactly is left for him to start against? Swindon? Pfft


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    why isnt MVG playing ramires and lampard aren't a good combo!
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    (Original post by Skkc16)
    I agree with Adam actually. This is not helping Lukaku's confidence and if Bayern is not the team and neither was Hull or Villa then who exactly is left for him to start against? Swindon? Pfft


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    So, you're telling me you know better than JM (arguably the best manager in the world)?:congrats: Please hand in your CV to Roman!
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    (Original post by dan94adibi)
    So, you're telling me you know better than JM (arguably the best manager in the world)?:congrats: Please hand in your CV to Roman!
    He's only human. And humans can make mistakes. Even Fergie made mistakes in his great career.

    We are allowed to criticise something that is questionable or disagreeable.

    I am frustrated at Lukaku not getting much gametime so far.

    Don't you think it was a joke that Lukaku didn't even get one second against Utd while Torres got much more than that?
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    (Original post by dan94adibi)
    So, you're telling me you know better than JM (arguably the best manager in the world)?:congrats: Please hand in your CV to Roman!
    You're not helpful at all. If you agree with his decisions that fine but it doesn't mean people who disagree are wannabe managers, the whole point is discussing things like this. Your reply makes you look a bit like an arse tbh


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    (Original post by Skkc16)
    I agree with Adam actually. This is not helping Lukaku's confidence and if Bayern is not the team and neither was Hull or Villa then who exactly is left for him to start against? Swindon? Pfft


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    Not saying I agree with the decision, but did you honestly expect Lukaku to start tonight? I would definitely have liked to seen him start by now but he will, it's still early days. Two of the four games we've played this season (including tonight) have been against top opposition, and Lukaku came on as a substitute in the other two games, he might make an appearance tonight seeing as Ba isn't on the bench. At West Brom he had to earn his starts by good performances as a substitute, why should that be any difference with us?
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    (Original post by Cable)
    He's only human. And humans can make mistakes. Even Fergie made mistakes in his great career.

    We are allowed to criticise something that is questionable or disagreeable.

    I am frustrated at Lukaku not getting much gametime so far.

    Don't you think it was a joke that Lukaku didn't even get one second against Utd while Torres got much more than that?
    He's likely to make less mistakes than people complaining here.
    It's only the 4th game into the season and everyone is moaning. :/
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    (Original post by manty)
    why isnt MVG playing ramires and lampard aren't a good combo!
    The combo is not too bad tbh. But I would prefer to see MVG rotated with Lampard more, to give MVG experience and keep Lampard fresh. I also want to see Essien in the starting line-up more.
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    Lukaku isn't playing for good reasons.

    Firstly, it's the beginning of Mourinho's first season back. He said himself he was glad to still have a core of experienced players. Hence MVG and Lukaku haven't really had a look in as Jose has wanted to get off to a solid start.

    Secondly, Lukaku rarely started last season, he was used as an off the bench battering ram to come on, and it worked wonders for WBA. So it's not fair to presume he'll start the games for us at the beginning of the season when we're a top team, and looking for a solid start. He's still 20, Torres and Ba have experience.

    Lastly, most of the pundits believe Jose is doing it on purpose. Lukaku has given numerous interviews stating his determination to break into the first team. He's young and 'hungry', he will not be losing confidence. The Chelsea TV staff believe Jose is holding him back so he gives it all when he starts getting his chances to start, which will be sooner rather than later. Look at the work Ba put in against Villa. It wasn't effective but the guy never gave up running. They all know competition is fierce.

    Lukaku and MVG will get their chances when things settle down, presumably after the internationals. We rejected on offer from Ajax to take MVG. They're both in his plans. Stop over-reacting.
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    (Original post by Skkc16)
    You're not helpful at all. If you agree with his decisions that fine but it doesn't mean people who disagree are wannabe managers, the whole point is discussing things like this. Your reply makes you look a bit like an arse tbh


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    Discussion is fine but discussion where there is no logical reasoning behind the argument is invalid.

    Lukaku is a pro and he will deal with it and you can't expect him to start his first game against the European Champions.
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    (Original post by Nickini)
    Not saying I agree with the decision, but did you honestly expect Lukaku to start tonight? I would definitely have liked to seen him start by now but he will, it's still early days. Two of the four games we've played this season have been against top opposition, and Lukaku came on as a substitute in the other two games. At West Brom he had to earn his starts by good performances as a substitute, why should that be any difference with us?
    Yeah fair enough maybe not tonight but it's just frustrating because of the previous games. His performance in per season was enough to earn him a start against Hull I thought. Also here I think it's going to be hard for him to make that same impact as he did for WBA because I've noticed if we are comfortably up by halftime or just after the team pretty much just sits back so less chance of getting goals. Just have to be patient I suppose


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    (Original post by dan94adibi)
    He's likely to make less mistakes than people complaining here.
    It's only the 4th game into the season and everyone is moaning. :/
    Maybe we should be more calm and be more patient.

    Chelsea are at the top of the league and unbeaten so far.

    But the performances haven't been good enough imo. And part of that is down to poor team selections imo. The team needed some rotation to keep the players fresh and maintain their energy levels. But Jose hasn't done that.

    Ok, all this would be forgiven if he wins the league. But that doesn't mean we can't moan about the questionable things Jose has done with this team so far.

    Why no rotation of Lampard and Ramires? Why not rotation of A.Cole and Ivanovic? Why no Lukaku against Hull or Villa for 90mins?
 
 
 
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