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The Chelsea F.C. Thread IV

Reply 7780

Isometrix

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Despite our atrocious performance this week, gap between us and 1st is now 4.

Reply 7781

Skkc16

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That point yesterday doesn't seem too bad now given how today's games have gone :biggrin:

Reply 7782

mccrae01

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Hi guys. I have started a Premier League prediction game thread for the rest of the season for those of you that are interested. I hope some of you decide to take part

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2512198

Reply 7783

Cannotbelieveit

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This weekend would have been perfect if we'd won.

West Ham away is simply must win, otherwise we could be 8th at the end of November. :eek:

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Reply 7784

9MmBulletz

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4 points off top, with Arsenal still to play City and us. Luckily, we are yet to play the three teams above us so can take points off them all. But, boy we need a ball-playing central midfielder.

Btw Pogba :drool:

[video="youtube;tT8v0FWTCBE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT8v0FWTCBE[/video]

Reply 7785

ZÃ¼rich

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Original post by 9MmBulletz

4 points off top, with Arsenal still to play City and us. Luckily, we are yet to play the three teams above us so can take points off them all. But, boy we need a ball-playing central midfielder.

Btw Pogba :drool:

[video="youtube;tT8v0FWTCBE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT8v0FWTCBE[/video]

And you've yet to play Liverpool and us...

Reply 7786

Nickini

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Didn't watch the whole game, but from what I saw West Brom deserved the 3 points. Definitely wasn't a penalty at the end, not sure about calling it a dive but he definitely went down pretty easily, although then again players go down in a similar fashion all the time, particularly in a situation such as this one tbf. Either way Mariner bottled it.

Although that's football. You're lucky as **** one week then the next you get ****ed over. Swings and roundabouts.

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Reply 7787

9MmBulletz

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Original post by Nickini

Didn't watch the whole game, but from what I saw West Brom deserved the 3 points. Definitely wasn't a penalty at the end, not sure about calling it a dive but he definitely went down pretty easily, although then again players go down in a similar fashion all the time, particularly in a situation such as this one tbf. Either way Mariner bottled it.

Although that's football. You're lucky as **** one week then the next you get ****ed over. Swings and roundabouts.

West Brom didn't deserve it imo. They had no shots on target for the whole first half, and their only shots on target were Cech's save from the corner, then the rebound that went in and Sessegnon's (which should've been saved).

There was a foul in the build-up to Sessegnon's too

Needless to say, we weren't great and it's a wake-up call

Reply 7788

Tweek

10

Never going to win the title if Lampard keeps playing. His legacy is being tarnished somewhat. He should have been faded out slowly and brought in every now and then to perform to his best.

Playing him every game and watching him be ineffective is no way to remember someone who is arguably our greatest player of all time.

Mikel needs to be starting most games, glad to see Willian and Eto'o looking good though.

Also. I hate November.

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Reply 7789

9MmBulletz

16

Original post by Zürich

And you've yet to play Liverpool and us...

Which is a good opportunity to take points from rivals. Can see United being top at Christmas tbh as they've only got Tottenham as a real tough game in the next 8. Title race is really anyone's guess at this stage...

Reply 7790

little_wizard123

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I forgot that Andre Marriner was a Villa fan :holmes:

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Reply 7791

Enoxial

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Original post by Cannotbelieveit

West Ham away is simply must win, otherwise we could be 8th at the end of November. :eek:

We must avail maximum opportunities on counter attacks.

Reply 7792

Solemn Rain

18

Lol
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Reply 7793

NDGAARONDI

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Original post by sevchenko

José Mourinho (October 5, 2013): "I hate diving. My players know they will be in big trouble with me if they dive. It's very bad."- Hypocrisy at it's best

I prefer Taggart protecting referees over the Mikel thing despite having a string of offences attacking them in the past. But yeah hypocrisy is all over the place. Why are Utd fans moaning at Ashley Young for diving? Ronaldo was doing it for years. Just like every footballer should be sent off for foul language but it's only ever brought up when it goes a bit further, usually only if racist issues are brought into question. I find it odd that no footballer has been caught for using homophobic slurs on the pitch since Robbie Fowler. I can't remember any anyway.

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Reply 7794

9MmBulletz

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Original post by NDGAARONDI

I prefer Taggart protecting referees over the Mikel thing despite having a string of offences attacking them in the past. But yeah hypocrisy is all over the place. Why are Utd fans moaning at Ashley Young for diving? Ronaldo was doing it for years. Just like every footballer should be sent off for foul language but it's only ever brought up when it goes a bit further, usually only if racist issues are brought into question. I find it odd that no footballer has been caught for using homophobic slurs on the pitch since Robbie Fowler. I can't remember any anyway.

I think it's stupid to give red cards for diving because then you'll have to give red cards for

-Waving cards at the referee
-Swearing at the referee

Which are both more verbal ways of trying to influence the referee.

Plus, denying a clear goal-scoring opportunity will probably be upped to a 3-game ban.

Then there's the silly argument that diving should get a 5-game ban. I think a two-footed tackle or violent conduct is much worse than diving. Most players would rather a player dive than a player potentially injure/ assault them.

Diving's not great to see, but it's part of the game now, and it's not the worst thing. The temperament of players and their attitudes towards authority figures is more alarming

Reply 7795

ZÃ¼rich

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http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/nov/12/jose-mourinho-tunnel-row-chelsea-westbrom-olsson?CMP=twt_gu

Jose Mourinho. Class act.

Reply 7796

NDGAARONDI

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Original post by 9MmBulletz

I think it's stupid to give red cards for diving because then you'll have to give red cards for

-Waving cards at the referee
-Swearing at the referee

Which are both more verbal ways of trying to influence the referee.

Plus, denying a clear goal-scoring opportunity will probably be upped to a 3-game ban.

Then there's the silly argument that diving should get a 5-game ban. I think a two-footed tackle or violent conduct is much worse than diving. Most players would rather a player dive than a player potentially injure/ assault them.

Diving's not great to see, but it's part of the game now, and it's not the worst thing. The temperament of players and their attitudes towards authority figures is more alarming

Swearing at the referee, or anyone else for that matter, is a red card offence according to Law 12, see page 39. Whether or not it's enforced is another matter. Waving the imaginary card will count as unsporting behaviour and that is a yellow card.

I'm just amused that commentators, in the general sense (supporters, pundits, journalists etc), bother to react to a suspected act of simulation when it has been an endemic for donkey years. Managers have the authority to tell their players not do it or face never playing for their team again and the only one I can think of was Sir Bobby Robson with Laurent Robert. I'll always remember Luiz' wind up against Utd fans who are moaning he 'simulated' acting like girls at a One Direction concert as if they've never seen a player simulate before or don't like receiving stick having given it themselves.

Thing is, the deliberate denying of a goal scoring opportunity, where players are said to take "one for the team", ought to be punished more. If you're not going for the ball then what are you doing? You're deliberately going for the player. You may well risk more injury to that player than victim's of assault 'taps' like when Rooney got sent off against Macedonia or Beckham against Argentina. I've seen some yellows given because they weren't the "last man" but, according to Laws of the game by FIFA, that's not needed unless I've missed something. A team can be overrun with its defence AWOL and you can have a 2 on 4 situation in favour of the attacking side and the defender ahead of his teammate can commit a "cynical" foul with impunity knowing it will give him a yellow to save a goal being conceded rather than the red card.

I wouldn't mind seeing punishments for the severity of injury caused to dictate the length of a ban. So someone like Roy Keane for taking out Haaland would have been banned for life because you can't rely on the criminal justice to function properly. They are more likely to send you to prison for six months for being a working class hero by stopping the Boat Race by taking a swim in the Thames. Rugby league uses a more proportionate system to deal with these situations so it's not unknown, just regulation and administration in football is still in the Dark Ages. Nothing new there then. But yeah, personal injury is always worse than simulation.

What gets my goat are managers who approach the fourth official constantly over decisions the referee has made. He cannot do anything so why bother? Not only is it unsporting but it's pathetically dumb. It appears the FA are taking a harder stance towards this but, forgive me for being cynical, that appears to coincide with one of the worst offending managers having already retired. If you wish to show as transparent and fair, nobody escapes punishment regardless of who is in the spotlight.