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    Jam what's the score with your TSR account(s)? Why is your original one banned?
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    Is there any hope that we'll play some kind of attractive football this season? Any?

    Not if we play defensive a lot of the time!
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    (Original post by Dopamine Dreams)
    Jam what's the score with your TSR account(s)? Why is your original one banned?
    Did it intentionally, by request. Didn't want to use that account anymore and didn't want to be on the site at the time due to work. Will be unbanned in a few days, but I like this new account so will keep this for now.
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    (Original post by cleveradam)
    Against Southampton who play a high line and close down quick, we need a person who can pass the ball in all directions. If he doesn't play Mata I can't see whose going to thread the balls through. Lampard can't pick out a pass for his life now and will get run over by an energetic and aggressive Southampton side. Mikel is too slow at picking passes and will get run over. Why not try Essien for a game? Or even Luiz - I don't understand why he hasn't worked out that we need a midfielder to control the game.
    Do you guys think Mata will stay? He can only have so much patience.
    Agree with Luiz playing in midfield. I think he'd be more useful than Ramires. Ramires' energy is useful in high tempo end-to-end games, but for others his performances tend to be below average. I wouldn't say Mikel is slow, he's composed. If you notice him closely he very rarely loses the ball, and keeps the passes simple. You need someone like that who can build the play from the back. He literally does the job of a holding midfielder really well. Maybe we could try Mikel and Luiz in midfield, giving Luiz the licence to go forward. May be slightly defence oriented, but it means less work for the attacking trio to get back and defend and more time for them to stay upfield. Could work well in a counter-attacking system.

    I hope Mata stays, and is given a run. Oscar has had a good season so far, but like I said he can't handle the responsibility of driving the attack.
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    I fully understand your concerns tbh. However, look at the table, look at our fixtures and where we are currently, look how the other teams are doing with easier/similar fixture lists and we're not really in a bad situation.

    That's why I'm not too fussed, we're able to take points away from home vs the big teams and can win majority of our home games(take City) and tbh, while we've looked rather jammy this season, bar 2009-2010 where we were dishing out 6-0's, 8-0's and that, has there ever been a season where we pretty much dominated every team without prolonged periods of edgy play and containing pressure?

    The way I see it, the only team I'm scared of would be arsenal in their current form. But we can beat them tbh.

    Oh, don't worry, we've talked a lot about ramires here. I don't like him, but he's a necessary evil until we get an actual central midfielder with work rate and passing ability. Oscar replacing ramires isn't the answer here due to his lack of strength and not being as good energy wise, he'd have to replace lampard for that to work. I don't think we should be experimental and put in de bruyne and oscar in either, I'd personally like it if he stuck to a first 11.

    We struggled to get a player who could retain possession in CM in 2010, personally I think a mixture of carlo and the board are to blame. Which tbh, I can now see why Carlo was sacked(although he deserved another season), saying he'll play the youth like mceachran, kakuta and sturridge, doesn't play them, doesn't replace the old players with the signings required.

    I don't mind too much we lost tbh, we tried a tactic vs west ham which worked well, then tried it away in europe to see if it had the same effect, if we'd started hazard we'd have won the match tbh.
    I think Oscar can work in CM because he defo has the energy (he's played over 100 games since the Olympics and rarely looks tired). Mourinho favours Oscar to Mata mainly because of his energy. If you look at the Brazil team as a whole, most of them are proper athletes as well as footballers. They're all fairly quick and have bags of stamina. With Oscar not being as strong as Ramires, well you clearly forgot how easy Ramires fell over against West Brom haha.

    My patience is running low with Mou at the minute because our results have been indifferent and Mata isn't playing so someone needs to take the blame for our performances. I'm sure Mata's gonna leave which is going to be the stupidest thing to do. Plus, Mourinho did a similar thing just before he left where he sold Robben (who was pretty good for us) and bought Malouda. No-one can justify that decision
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    I don't have any concerns, really, and certainly no issue with Mourinho. Give him a year or two of complete control and we will be the strongest side in the league again, imo. When Mourinho gets the conditions right - the squad, the tactics, the mentality - to fit him perfectly he will be unstoppable. I don't expect us to win the league this year, but I'm expecting us to slowly improve all year and then next summer he will buy whoever he feels he needs to take us to the next level. If you look at what he did at Inter it took him a little while to really get them where he wanted but when he did they won the treble.
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    (Original post by mhsc)
    I don't have any concerns, really, and certainly no issue with Mourinho. Give him a year or two of complete control and we will be the strongest side in the league again, imo. When Mourinho gets the conditions right - the squad, the tactics, the mentality - to fit him perfectly he will be unstoppable. I don't expect us to win the league this year, but I'm expecting us to slowly improve all year and then next summer he will buy whoever he feels he needs to take us to the next level. If you look at what he did at Inter it took him a little while to really get them where he wanted but when he did they won the treble.
    To fit Mata in when? 1 day before January transfer window when he's bound to leave?
    O well, it's all over unless Jose states to Mata himself he is his no.1. But Mourinho has a big ego and won't give in so I doubt it.
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    I love Mata, but there are many great players in the world and only a few truly great managers - Mourinho is certainly one of them. If he decides to sell Mata I will back him 100% - but I doubt he will sell him in January, he'll want a full year with all of these players imo to figure out exactly who he wants to keep in the long term.
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    (Original post by mhsc)
    I love Mata, but there are many great players in the world and only a few truly great managers - Mourinho is certainly one of them. If he decides to sell Mata I will back him 100% - but I doubt he will sell him in January, he'll want a full year with all of these players imo to figure out exactly who he wants to keep in the long term.
    You'll back your managers decision to sell your best player?

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    (Original post by mhsc)
    I love Mata, but there are many great players in the world and only a few truly great managers - Mourinho is certainly one of them. If he decides to sell Mata I will back him 100% - but I doubt he will sell him in January, he'll want a full year with all of these players imo to figure out exactly who he wants to keep in the long term.
    This is Chelsea we're talking about here. We don't do long term managers haha. It's all fine and dandy thinking Mourinho will stay for the entirety of his contract, but deep inside we all know it probably won't happen.

    Last time Mourinho sold a big player (Robben), he ****ed off soon after anyway
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    (Original post by TH3-FL45H)
    You'll back your managers decision to sell your best player?
    Of course. If he sells him (which I doubt) it would only be because he sees a way to make us stronger. Everything Mourinho does is to win. Sometimes you've got to lose to win - Arsenal lost RVP, now they have a team which is much better, even though Giroud is no where near as good as RVP. Inter lost Ibra and that side eventually went on to win the treble.
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    (Original post by mhsc)
    Of course. If he sells him (which I doubt) it would only be because he sees a way to make us stronger. Everything Mourinho does is to win. Sometimes you've got to lose to win - Arsenal lost RVP, now they have a team which is much better, even though Giroud is no where near as good as RVP. Inter lost Ibra and that side eventually went on to win the treble.
    I agree with you on this.

    Mourinho's track record speaks for itself. Anyone on TSR who thinks they know better than Jose is a fool.
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    (Original post by mhsc)
    I don't have any concerns, really, and certainly no issue with Mourinho. Give him a year or two of complete control and we will be the strongest side in the league again, imo. When Mourinho gets the conditions right - the squad, the tactics, the mentality - to fit him perfectly he will be unstoppable. I don't expect us to win the league this year, but I'm expecting us to slowly improve all year and then next summer he will buy whoever he feels he needs to take us to the next level. If you look at what he did at Inter it took him a little while to really get them where he wanted but when he did they won the treble.
    Given that Mou is simply unwilling or unable to improve players or to develop existing player's game to suit his style, it will take a few transfer windows before he can buy a suitably strong squad I guess. Sign of a world class coach that.
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    Apparently Romeu beasted the midfield against Swansea. Very good sign and I hope we can get him back in January or something!
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    (Original post by The Assassin)
    Apparently Romeu beasted the midfield against Swansea. Very good sign and I hope we can get him back in January or something!
    Love Romeu, really, really rate him. I think we're weakest in the holding midfield area.
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    This weekend will be the start of Southampton's drop down the league table. I don't know why so many people are worried about our midfield, Jose knows what he's doing and I believe in whatever team he throws out. If it means we get to miss watching Mata play then so be it.
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    (Original post by Eloades11)
    This weekend will be the start of Southampton's drop down the league table. I don't know why so many people are worried about our midfield, Jose knows what he's doing and I believe in whatever team he throws out. If it means we get to miss watching Mata play then so be it.
    Just because Jose is leaving Mata out of the team doesn't mean he's always right. My opinion is this- we have 24 points from 12 games which is identical to last season's tally at the same stage. We should have picked up 4 more points at least for our start of the season to be acceptable. We've played Spurs, United and City so have some leeway I guess

    I'm not really worried about Southampton. They're good and all, but they're no match for us IMO. I haven't watched them play much but I hear about their pressing. Thing is we have players that can punish mistakes made by pressing teams by drawing fouls and evading tackles.

    I am worried about our central midfield because no matter what Jose says it's pretty obvious to everyone (including himself) that:

    -Ramires has no composure and terrible ball control
    -Mikel doesn't make any effective forward passes
    -Lampard is too slow and gets overrun by younger,fitter midfielders

    I think Mourinho wants to play Mata, but he doesn't trust our central midfield enough to leave him to roam in the AMF positions. So he gets players like Oscar and Schurrle with energy to track back to do this. I have no doubt that Mourinho is looking for a central midfielder in January
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    Southampton's pressing won't be much for you guys to worry about it's quite overrated. Play Luiz and watch him have 3 assists :coma:

    Don't forget to press boruc.


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    (Original post by The Assassin)
    Apparently Romeu beasted the midfield against Swansea. Very good sign and I hope we can get him back in January or something!
    Hasn't been playing too much league football though, mourinho is the last person to take him back for that reason, only in an injury crisis and by that time he'd have probably tried luiz in midfield again and started actually playing essien. Just a shame van ginkel got injured, he was getting decent game time and I was hoping that he'd develop/do well now so he gets in the first 11 by next season.

    I feel that if we bought a CM, it needs to be a proper class signing rather than a 'proven option' though, we just go and buy someone decent who could be a good player for us that's young(schneiderlin), it will just stunt the development of our midfielders and probably be rotated with the likes of lamps and ramires, we need a top signing in CM, so we can start to shift those average/consistent but not great midfielders or use them more wisely. Personally I think romeu's time is up with us unless he can get good gametime for valencia. Big shame if what I think is true.
    (Original post by 9MmBulletz)
    I think Mourinho wants to play Mata, but he doesn't trust our central midfield enough to leave him to roam in the AMF positions. So he gets players like Oscar and Schurrle with energy to track back to do this. I have no doubt that Mourinho is looking for a central midfielder in January
    Why I believe you're right here is because we played 4-3-3 which essentially confirmed it, he said after the game vs west ham to redknapp that the 4-3-3 was due to extra cover, mikel would sit deep and allow the central midfielders to push up and press higher without the pressure of a west ham counter attack or being overrun in midfield.
 
 
 
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