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    (Original post by The Assassin)
    Regarding the CM issue, what are we looking to improve upon? If say, we got Xabi Alonso who would take the place of Mikel, what do we do with Ramires? Upgrade him too? I'd understand if we got someone like De Rossi/Bender who themselves aren't DLPs in comparison but instead very good defensive midfielders who can help control the game from deep and allow us to close games out much easier, and so would need to get a more supportive DLP like Moutinho/Pardo alongside them, but with say Alonso who's more defensive of a DLP, what do we then do with Ramires?
    Ramires would then take the role of Khedira as a BBM allowing Alonso to do his thing from deep. But again I'd like to see us get two midfield players, or use a youngster and buy one midfield man.
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    Ramires would then take the role of Khedira as a BBM allowing Alonso to do his thing from deep. But again I'd like to see us get two midfield players, or use a youngster and buy one midfield man.
    Okay, that's what I thought. Cheers. Chalobah a DLP of sorts -- right now he's more supportive really but I think he'll develop defensively quite well in the future.

    If we didn't use him in the end, then who would your choices be? Bender and Pardo?
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    So when are you freeing Kenneth? Anyone know which club you're loaning him to.

    Shame though because his excellency is what would win you a trophy. Now you'll be lucky to finish 4th.


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    Turns out it's not Chelsea B; he's off to Middlesbrough (so has been reported)
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    Torres should tell Mata where he got all that pace from, he needs it.
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    I love Mourinho. But do you notice differences about him this time than during his first spell?

    He seems a bit softer, a bit less controversial, a bit more mellow. I kind of miss it. I loved his row with Arsene and his quotes about omelettes. Great man.
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    (Original post by Eboracum)
    I love Mourinho. But do you notice differences about him this time than during his first spell?

    He seems a bit softer, a bit less controversial, a bit more mellow. I kind of miss it. I loved his row with Arsene and his quotes about omelettes. Great man.
    And Melons
    What you call soft he calls 'mature'.

    I miss the old Jose aswell.
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    New Jose is better tbh.

    Old one is the guy who makes all neutrals hate our club. Similar to that of Fergie back in the day.

    New Jose is cooler, he's learnt to not piss off the whole nation from his days in Madrid. The Madrid days affected him a lot, but he's a lot more humble, yet he'll still egg people on.

    I think he's trying to get us to win the league, all this bull**** about 6 contenders, City being the best blah blah blah I'm sure he's not telling the guys that in the dressing room.
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    Thought of a new tactic to accommodate Mata.

    Mata as a false 9. He drops deep into the AM position, which allows the wingers to push forward and go into the space between full back and Centre back, Hazard and Schurrle being the Wingers, while Oscar plays in the hole.


    So the team would be like this.

    Normal back 5

    Lampard, Luiz
    Schurrle, Mata, Oscar, Hazard

    With the tactic, we have 2 fast runners in Schurrle and Hazard, another in Willian. Will add on to this in a bit but what do you guys think about the tactic?
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    I think he's trying to get us to win the league, all this bull**** about 6 contenders, City being the best blah blah blah I'm sure he's not telling the guys that in the dressing room.
    I love these mind games

    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    Thought of a new tactic to accommodate Mata.

    Mata as a false 9. He drops deep into the AM position, which allows the wingers to push forward and go into the space between full back and Centre back, Hazard and Schurrle being the Wingers, while Oscar plays in the hole.


    So the team would be like this.

    Normal back 5

    Lampard, Luiz
    Schurrle, Mata, Oscar, Hazard

    With the tactic, we have 2 fast runners in Schurrle and Hazard, another in Willian. Will add on to this in a bit but what do you guys think about the tactic?
    Willian is very important and should be a regular starter tbf.

    Hazard doesn't cross, he cuts in and goes for goal and he neither passes at the right time.

    I'm happy with Jose's 1 goal margin win strategy.
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    (Original post by Enoxial)

    Hazard doesn't cross, he cuts in and goes for goal and he neither passes at the right time.

    I'm happy with Jose's 1 goal margin win strategy.
    But that's the whole point of this tactic. We have wingers that cut in the middle and go for goal, Schurrle and Hazard, Barcelona and spain do this tactic and bayern as well to an extent.

    Willian is important, but for this system, he can play in place of Oscar or Mata in the AM/ false 9 role. One will be a general Attacking mid, responsible for playmaking but will have defensive duties in pressing the DLP(Oscar), while the other would be responsible for the attacking play (Mata) and both will alternate their role to prevent themselves from being marked out.
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    But that's the whole point of this tactic. We have wingers that cut in the middle and go for goal, Schurrle and Hazard, Barcelona and spain do this tactic and bayern as well to an extent.

    Willian is important, but for this system, he can play in place of Oscar or Mata in the AM/ false 9 role. One will be a general Attacking mid, responsible for playmaking but will have defensive duties in pressing the DLP(Oscar), while the other would be responsible for the attacking play (Mata) and both will alternate their role to prevent themselves from being marked out.
    Didn't Willian do a similar job back at Shakthar where he played as the driving force for the team coming in off the wing when Mytharian (sp?) played in the No.10 role (interchanging play?) and Fernandinho coming in from deep to score? This is iirc. Maybe that's why he's adapted much quicker and slowly becoming one of the more important players.


    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    Thought of a new tactic to accommodate Mata.

    Mata as a false 9. He drops deep into the AM position, which allows the wingers to push forward and go into the space between full back and Centre back, Hazard and Schurrle being the Wingers, while Oscar plays in the hole.


    So the team would be like this.

    Normal back 5

    Lampard, Luiz
    Schurrle, Mata, Oscar, Hazard

    With the tactic, we have 2 fast runners in Schurrle and Hazard, another in Willian. Will add on to this in a bit but what do you guys think about the tactic?
    I like it. The creativity and pace upfront is unbelievable.
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    (Original post by iRush)
    Didn't Willian do a similar job back at Shakthar where he played as the driving force for the team coming in off the wing when Mytharian (sp?) played in the No.10 role (interchanging play?) and Fernandinho coming in from deep to score? This is iirc. Maybe that's why he's adapted much quicker and slowly becoming one of the more important players.




    I like it. The creativity and pace upfront is unbelievable.
    Good point with Willian, his free role did help him a lot. But now we've made him into a work hard winger, I like this role tbh. He can of course take Hazard or Schurrles place in the starting line up too. The good thing about this tactic is that our players are adaptable to play in more than one role.
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    Thought of a new tactic to accommodate Mata.

    Mata as a false 9. He drops deep into the AM position, which allows the wingers to push forward and go into the space between full back and Centre back, Hazard and Schurrle being the Wingers, while Oscar plays in the hole.


    So the team would be like this.

    Normal back 5

    Lampard, Luiz
    Schurrle, Mata, Oscar, Hazard

    With the tactic, we have 2 fast runners in Schurrle and Hazard, another in Willian. Will add on to this in a bit but what do you guys think about the tactic?
    Strong, physical teams would have a field day against that attack. Mata and Oscar are neither quick nor strong to burst through defences (Mata especially). Mata works best as a playmaker, but if there's no one there for him to play through I'm not sure what his purpose would be. We'd also be a man down when it comes to defending/attacking set pieces as neither of them can mark.

    I think it would be good for players like Hazard as it would mean teams would player a higher line against us which our quicker players can take advantage of.
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    (Original post by Isometrix)
    Strong, physical teams would have a field day against that attack. Mata and Oscar are neither quick nor strong to burst through defences (Mata especially). Mata works best as a playmaker, but if there's no one there for him to play through I'm not sure what his purpose would be. We'd also be a man down when it comes to defending/attacking set pieces as neither of them can mark.

    I think it would be good for players like Hazard as it would mean teams would player a higher line against us which our quicker players can take advantage of.
    Good point. But I see Barcelona do a similar system to that. I guess Spanish league is not as physical as the prem tbf and not as free flowin.

    The aim of the tactic isn't for Oscar or Mata to burst through the defence, it's for Hazard and Schurrle to burst through the defence. Mata and Oscar are merely there to retain possession and create through ball opportunities for the wingers. Essentially the wingers are playing higher up than usual and will cut inside.

    There is the problem of Set pieces tbf. Provided they're not too physical i.e. not Man City/stoke/West ham then we can put in Mikel as an extra man on set pieces. We'd have Cahill, Terry, Ivan, Mikel and Luiz more than capable of marking most teams out on set pieces. Barca have literally 3 players who can mark on set pieces, or we can mark Zonally, which would mean that height would no longer be a problem.
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    (Original post by Eboracum)
    I love Mourinho. But do you notice differences about him this time than during his first spell?

    He seems a bit softer, a bit less controversial, a bit more mellow. I kind of miss it. I loved his row with Arsene and his quotes about omelettes. Great man.
    Calling Wenger a voyeur was an absolutely priceless moment.
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    Calling Wenger a voyeur was an absolutely priceless moment.
    What I found amazing about that is the hypocritical nature of it. Given out if the two, Mourinho is actually a voyeur.


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    What I found amazing about that is the hypocritical nature of it. Given out if the two, Mourinho is actually a voyeur.


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    (Original post by Cannotbelieveit)
    Please elaborate.
    #colegate for starters.



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    (Original post by 419)
    #colegate for starters.



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    Yeahhhhhhh, you obviously don't know what Voyeurism is
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    (Original post by Cannotbelieveit)
    Yeahhhhhhh, you obviously don't know what Voyeurism is
    Yeaaaahhhhhh I do...... It seems you have syntactical issues.


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